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I am well aware that the credits move slow, and I don't like it either. The frame was not my idea and I would rather have things pop-up like it does on your page Ryan, or like on Jason's page. But, I am on vacation for the next 3 weeks and so is the webmaster. We are going to refine a few things. But the animation will stay in tact. I realize that some people don't care for it but I don't want to be like everyone else. I have gotten a few complaints that things download too slow, that's not my problem. Everyone and I do mean EVERYONE that has a computer in the surrounding counties of Nashville have internet through BellSouth or Comcast Cable. My family lives in a rural part of this state and their download time is just as fast as mine and they have dial-up. When we were going over demographics for this website we knew most people around here had quick download time because of the internet providers in this state. I do agrre that a few things need to be tweeked and I will worry about that in a few weeks. You have to remember this is my first time ever doing something like this, However, I do appreciate everyone who has e-mailed me a suggestion. I will give these to the webmaster and let him review them and let him decide what he can do that help download time for people that don't have a quick up-time. As far as the flashy I have had too many people e-mail me with positive feed back. So the flashy stays. I raelize that everyone will not enjoy my site and that is perfectly fine. There are a few other bus sites that I find boring, but I do
plan to add them to my links page anyway. This is an information page as weel as a picture gallery. Soon the TAPT will release the 02-03 State School Bus Inspections county by county and the annual Drivers Safety Class. I am getting this information before most school systems do. I understand that people outside of TN. may not want to see that, but if you look at my opening, you will see who this site is dedicated to. I am not trying to be a smart ass but I have worked relentlessly on this website to go back and have it re-done. So, in short if you don't like the page, just don't re-visit it!!! If you look at the counter on the opening page you will see nearly 100 people have visited this page and so far 63 of those people are from Tennessee. I want everyone to find something on this site that they like. However, the e-mails I have received trying to get me to change this, that, and the other is getting to be pretty insulting. Necessary changes will be made as the webmaster sees fit. The people who have griped about this site need to quit complaining to me and complain to their internet provider!!! Thank You.

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Mr Magoo, I hope you don't run a business like that, because then you're doomed to failure. And I'll guarantee that. You have no idea what it takes to build a website, and I'm sure your webmaster isn't very popular, either.

And as far as your site's concerned, I won't visit it until the flash is at least trimmed down, because it's not my Internet Service Provider's fault that my lines are slow. It's my computer. And that remark about that really pissed me off, because it makes you naive, not to mention arrogant. You and your webmaster are naive, arrogant, and cueless to even think that just because most of the people in your home state and/or area has cable, it means that your site is onl;y for them. When a school bus site is made, it isn't tailored for a certain area. Do you think my Gillig site is only directed to Gillig fans? No. I tailored that site not only because it was the first of its kind to feature only Gilligs, but it was produced so as to give the country greater awareness of that brand of bus.

Come on. Lets get realistic here. Just because you have Comcast Cable doesn't mean your site has to be tailored for cable. If that's the case, your site will be a turn off - and a failure. I get 400+ visits a month on my Gillig site, because the content loads quickly. Taking ten minutes to load the homepage is flatly ridiculous. And it will cost you money most likely, because of bandwidth issues.

About sites being boring.. I'm not out to offend you in any way, but in my honest opinion, I find sites with too much animation and too little information to be boring. Not only that, it detracts away from the purpose of the site.

Now, before you and your webmaster go back to work on your site and get too carried away with flash animation that will turn visitors away, check this site out. It's a list of 101 Do's and Don'ts of Web Page Building. I hope you learn a lesson, because what it says is true.

http://www.akstrategic.com/101.html

Here's a few that I thought were the most inportant ones.





Sincerely,

Steven Rosenow

• Keep each page under 40K in size, people will not wait for your web site to load, they will go to your competitors
  
  



• Keep images to a minimum, not everyone uses software that displays them. This is more important than ever now with the multitude of mobile devices available.
  
  



• Avoid Flash, Java and JavaScript introductions. Not everyone has them installed.
  
  

• Avoid using page counters, they are inaccurate and misleading. Do you really want your competitors to know how well your site is doing?
  
  


• Avoid using frames, it is safe to assume your visitors know how to scroll the page up and down.
  
  


• Avoid using images for links, those with images disabled will not be able to use your site.
  
  

• Avoid using JavaScript or Flash stand-alone navigation systems as those with out the facility will not be able to get where they want.
  
  
• Images add to the file size of your page dramatically. Keep them small and use them sparingly.
  
  

Now I can control my OWN traffic - with my OWN 3M traffic signal!

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The frame was not my idea and I would rather have things pop-up like it does on your page Ryan, or like on Jason's page.

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Steven,
Thank you for your response. When I decided to do a website a dear friend of mine found someone to do the design of this page. I really did not have any say on flash animation, but I will give him your suggestions and let him read your message on this forum. I guess that I'm naive' to think everyone has internet connected to their cable. No, I am not offended by your statements and Thank you for pointing some of these things out. When I typed up the manuscripts of what I wanted, all I told the webmaster is that I wanted something completely different from what everyone else has. So be patient, I am totally new to this, and yes, I would like to add your site to my links page. Some of these pages will be edited this weekend and the table of contents will be adjusted slightly. Thanks for your interest!

Jeff Flatt

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And your remarks about my website offended me, because I've spend two years planning that website, and well over a year maintaining it. Degrees in computer web building don't mean anything in my opinion. Some of the greatest websites I've ever seen are from kids who wrote 'em. Not computer scientists with four pages of degrees (I'm being sarcastic, here. Not literal). So don't take what I say personally, it's just the experience I've had maintaining my own, and input from the four web building books I have at home.

And now that you have berated my site, how about giving me some feedback on it? Saying nothing except "it leaves much to be desired" isn't the right way to go as far as advice. I'm open to any and all suggestions you may have.

And I wasn't trying to break your spirit. Not in any way shape or form. I'm not that kinda person. And my remarks aren't, as you put them, "crack-pot remarks disguised as suggestions." They were merely that: suggestions. You just took it too personally.

If I've caused ya heartache, I am sorry, buu after all, you can't expect us not to give feedback when ya post a link to a site up. It's human nature to criticize and compliment. And it's also human nature to provide insight into how something can be better. That's what I was trying to do. I wasn't trying to tell you ya don't know anything about it. After all, it is your first attempt.

Just don't take my suggestions personal.

Thanks

Steven Rosenow



Now I can control my OWN traffic - with my OWN 3M traffic signal!

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Now, in order for most sites to compete and grab attention, this I know about. This is the year 2002 and many websites, over 80% of commercial sites are using Flash animation to enhance and even build the whole site.

This "Steve" guy, I went to his site and he is using buttons made by a "Flash Button" generator for those people who can't make their own. Everything on the "Yellow Limo" site is original.

By the way Steve, "I am in demand for making web pages". The business is getting to the point that I am considering leaving the teaching profession and making this my full time career.

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This "Steve" guy, I went to his site and he is using buttons made by a "Flash Button" generator for those people who can't make their own.

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I just wanted to let everyone know that the Yellow Limo website is being discontinued as of July 31, 2002

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Wow. Isn't that a bit extreme?

You have a good thing going, Jeff. You have great pictures, nice information, good ideas — and, obviously, you wanted to share your love for school buses with everyone.

Don't start taking all of this too personally, now. We've all been bashed before in the past, and it's worse to give up than it is to keep on trying.

I seriously hope that you reconsider all of this and won't go through with shutting down your web page. It would sure be a shame if you did.

Crown Supercoach - The “Royalty” of Pupil Transportation

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Speaking of that site.. I have some insight on how to make your site worth while (Not that I'm saying it isn't, this is just coming from someone who has considerable experience).

First off, your site has WAY too much Multimedia Flash animation.

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