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HelpMeImProbablyScrewed
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Posted - 09/11/2019 :  5:43:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit HelpMeImProbablyScrewed's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello everyone,
I am new to the site. Hear about it through a google search engine and decided to join.
I purchased a 2012 IC Corp CE Hybrid Bus with 20,320 miles. Yes you read that right. 20,320 miles. I have the title to prove. I have came to pick up the bus, it starts, however, the bus transmission doesnít shift out of neutral. There are no serious lights on the dash but 1 amber upside down triangle and ďcheck hybridĒ in the message center. I was on and off with International and they told me that doesnít effect/affect the symptoms that Iím having but it seems like they was rushing me off the phone.

So, as I triple check the windows, doors seatbelt being on and closed, Iím attempting to switch gears. (Push button shifter) you see the light moving from N to R, to D, or to Manual. The bus doesnít change any gears and in the message center the screen stays in ďN.Ē Moreover, as Iím changing gears you hear two high-low repetitive beeps. Many say the tow the bus to a local shop. But the ďnearest shopĒ is some distance away from
Me. The bus is located in Medford, NY. I live in Brooklyn. The people who are willing to check the bus out are in Brooklyn, but the Tow alone costs more then what I paid for the bus. (1700 to tow, but I paid 1400 for the bus.)

So Iím at a crossroad. I have a practically new bus but canít change gears. Do anyone have any experience with these buses? There arenít any forums or information thatís open to share how these buses are or any schematics of what to do in the event of. So should I just scrap it? Or try to get my money back? (I acquired this bus through a online bidding website. It stated it runs and drive. It runs but it doesnít drive.)

So am I worthy of hand? Or am I just like my screen name? ďIm Probably Screwed.Ē

jeeptjken
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Posted - 09/12/2019 :  04:18:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
first place to start is the transmission fluid at the proper level
after that we will need more info as to what transmission is in this bus what engine and so forth

How did you get the gosinta in the whatchamacallit
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HelpMeImProbablyScrewed
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Posted - 09/12/2019 :  08:28:25 AM  Show Profile  Visit HelpMeImProbablyScrewed's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by jeeptjken

first place to start is the transmission fluid at the proper level
after that we will need more info as to what transmission is in this bus what engine and so forth



I scanned and searched the entire engine bay of the bus. No transmission dipstick. The engine oil dipstick is there and the engine oil is still light and somewhat clear. As for transmission make, the panel where you would select the gears are ďRVKĒ? Iím not sure if thatís the actual name or an acronym for something particular. I always thought these buses used Allison, but I guess not. I do have the vin for the bus:

4DRAMAAN0CB327995

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Thomasbus24
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Posted - 09/12/2019 :  10:19:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just ran the VIN, that's got an Eaton-Fuller automated manual, not an Allison. Unfortunately, I can't find any useful info. It does show that it uses the logic of an Allison, so in theory that means it would need to see brake being applied before it will permit a shift. Do you have brake lights when pressing the brake pedal?

FYI there is an open recall for improved engine calibration for your unit.
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valleybusman
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Posted - 09/12/2019 :  10:20:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kind of a dumb response but do you have your foot on the rake before you try to shift ? I don't know when it came out but I think there is an inter lock on the transmission ?
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eddo
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Posted - 09/12/2019 :  11:13:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
perhaps you are learning why you only paid $1400 for this "new" bus....
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austindnh
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Posted - 09/12/2019 :  12:39:34 PM  Show Profile  Visit austindnh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
check for a slide lock on the emergency door at the bottom if it has one and is in the locked position it will not shift into gear
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Thomasbus24
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Posted - 09/12/2019 :  12:44:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you are pushing the brake, and seeing brake lights, I'd suggest contacting the seller. I see that it was owned by the corrections system. It's possible there is some hidden switch that must be activated as an anti-theft device.

The upside down triangle generally means an electrical fault on the diesel buses. Being hybrid, you'll be hard pressed to find people who know much about the thing.
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bwest
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Posted - 09/13/2019 :  07:47:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thomasbus24

If you are pushing the brake, and seeing brake lights, I'd suggest contacting the seller. I see that it was owned by the corrections system. It's possible there is some hidden switch that must be activated as an anti-theft device.

The upside down triangle generally means an electrical fault on the diesel buses. Being hybrid, you'll be hard pressed to find people who know much about the thing.



Sure would be a neat thing to have and fool with though. Especially with low miles. Of course, with it being and IC I'd probably get frustrated pretty fast. lol

Bryan
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HelpMeImProbablyScrewed
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Posted - 09/13/2019 :  12:47:27 PM  Show Profile  Visit HelpMeImProbablyScrewed's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thomasbus24

I just ran the VIN, that's got an Eaton-Fuller automated manual, not an Allison. Unfortunately, I can't find any useful info. It does show that it uses the logic of an Allison, so in theory that means it would need to see brake being applied before it will permit a shift. Do you have brake lights when pressing the brake pedal?

FYI there is an open recall for improved engine calibration for your unit.



Oh man thatís what Iím afraid of. Well I havenít checked because at both times I went to check the bus out myself. If I get the bus to move Iíll definitely bring it to the garage to check out
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HelpMeImProbablyScrewed
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Posted - 09/13/2019 :  12:58:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit HelpMeImProbablyScrewed's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by valleybusman

Kind of a dumb response but do you have your foot on the rake before you try to shift ? I don't know when it came out but I think there is an inter lock on the transmission ?


Yep.
With seatbelt on, all doors closed and windows shut.
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jeeptjken
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Posted - 09/16/2019 :  11:37:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
look at the bottom of each emergency exit door on the latch side and see if there is a safety interlock I have had more then a few with it not fully seated and this causes the engine to run but transmission to remain in neutral

How did you get the gosinta in the whatchamacallit
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