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Cody
Top Member
United States
1630 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2004 : 12:06:36 PM
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What were the Engine options on a 1991 Chevy chassis? |
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BusFreak
Top Member
USA
798 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2004 : 12:12:41 PM
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I believe they were the 8.2 liter detroit and the chevy V8 gas engine. |
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Isellbuses
Top Member
Canada
828 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2004 : 12:13:49 PM
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366 Gas and there was an option for a 427 Gas as well, the 8.2L was not available in 1991. |
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Thomasfan89
Top Member
USA
1155 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2004 : 12:42:29 PM
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My guess qould be a CAT probably the 3116. If i am not mistaken the 3208 was never in a conventional, otherwose, that would be my other guess. I have to go with BusFreak on the 8.2L Detroit also. I think it was still being put into a Chevy chassis in 1991. I don't mean to contradict anyone by saying this but I am at a loss at the other engine options. |
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GMCBlueBird83
Top Member
USA
1478 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2004 : 2:12:09 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Isellbuses
366 Gas and there was an option for a 427 Gas as well, the 8.2L was not available in 1991.
I'm pretty sure the 8.2 liter Detroit Diesel was available thoughout the 1991 model year until production of the C-60/C6000 ended. When Blue Bird came out with the Chevy/GMC CV200 chassis(Topkick/Kodiak look) for 1992 is when the CAT engines became available. I believe the first one offered was the 3116 which was later replaced by the 3126. |
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Isellbuses
Top Member
Canada
828 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2004 : 2:14:49 PM
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The 8.2 was not offered in 91 and 92. |
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GMCBlueBird83
Top Member
USA
1478 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2004 : 2:24:06 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Isellbuses
The 8.2 was not offered in 91 and 92.
Mike, The '91 and '92 are two different chassis. I find it odd that the 1991 would not offer the 8.2 as all previous years at least back to 1983 had them if not longer than that. Did GM just not offer any diesels that year? |
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dmoney127
Advanced Member
USA
253 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2004 : 5:25:46 PM
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If you mean that a 3208 was never in a Chevy conventional, then I don't know. But we had a slew of mid-late 70's and early 80's IHC conventionals that did have the 3208, most with auto, and a few 5-speeds. |
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Isellbuses
Top Member
Canada
828 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2004 : 5:48:53 PM
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GMC did not offer a diesel in 91 or 92. The 8.2L did not meet Fed emissions. |
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Isellbuses
Top Member
Canada
828 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2004 : 5:50:42 PM
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Actually come to think of it, the topkick was not offered in 92. There was one year without an option for GMC. |
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GMCBlueBird83
Top Member
USA
1478 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2004 : 6:53:08 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Isellbuses
Actually come to think of it, the topkick was not offered in 92. There was one year without an option for GMC.
Its funny you mention that. I have yet to see a 1992 Chevy/GMC myself although others have told me they do exist. I did see a 1991 GMC Blue Bird on the auction list at 422Sales.com It lists it as having an 8.2 liter DD. Could be a typo, or not. its toward the bottom of the upcoming auction list. I still would like to know the first year the 8.2 liter was offered. I posted that question on another thread but nobody knew for sure. |
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Girardin_71
Top Member
Canada
626 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2004 : 6:58:29 PM
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quote: Originally posted by GMCBluebird83
quote: Originally posted by Isellbuses
Actually come to think of it, the topkick was not offered in 92. There was one year without an option for GMC.
Its funny you mention that. I have yet to see a 1992 Chevy/GMC myself although others have told me they do exist. I did see a 1991 GMC Blue Bird on the auction list at 422Sales.com It lists it as having an 8.2 liter DD. Could be a typo, or not. its toward the bottom of the upcoming auction list. I still would like to know the first year the 8.2 liter was offered. I posted that question on another thread but nobody knew for sure.
At the school bus yard website they have a 1992 GMC Blue-Bird Coventional as the bus of the month http://members.aol.com/SchoolBusYard/ |
Girardin/Blue-Bird are my favorite school buses
http://www.g71bdpt.net |
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GMCBlueBird83
Top Member
USA
1478 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2004 : 06:01:03 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Blue-BirdTC2000
quote: Originally posted by GMCBluebird83
quote: Originally posted by Isellbuses
Actually come to think of it, the topkick was not offered in 92. There was one year without an option for GMC.
Its funny you mention that. I have yet to see a 1992 Chevy/GMC myself although others have told me they do exist. I did see a 1991 GMC Blue Bird on the auction list at 422Sales.com It lists it as having an 8.2 liter DD. Could be a typo, or not. its toward the bottom of the upcoming auction list. I still would like to know the first year the 8.2 liter was offered. I posted that question on another thread but nobody knew for sure.
At the school bus yard website they have a 1992 GMC Blue-Bird Coventional as the bus of the month http://members.aol.com/SchoolBusYard/
I forgot about that bus. Its been a long time since I've looked at that site...I stand corrected on the existence of a 1992 Chevy/GMC |
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Isellbuses
Top Member
Canada
828 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2004 : 5:58:27 PM
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I would examine that bus a little closer. The model year would show 1993. There was no GMC in 1992. It may have a build date of 92 but the chassis will be 1993. |
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Thomas Ford 85-16
Top Member
USA
4177 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2004 : 07:25:18 AM
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Are you sure about that? I have tons of CV200 brochures that have 1992 as the copyright date, and they indicate 1992 as the starting model year for that bus. |
Mike's Bus Yard - http://buses.zwebpages.com - Since 1999
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Rich
Top Member
United States
5768 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2004 : 1:19:57 PM
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The Blue Bird CV200 (updated GM cowl) began production in the year of 1992.
The older GM cowl quit production in 1991, however, there were some 1992 models, from non-Blue Bird manufacturers, including AmTran (Ward), Carpenter, Thomas, Wayne, etc. And YES the Detroit 8.2L was an available engine, along with the GM gasoline line.
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Now, just an interesting tidbit. Before GM officials signed with Blue Bird to provide an exclusive chassis agreement, GM consulted with Thomas, and Wayne. |
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Edited by - Rich on 07/21/2004 1:24:23 PM |
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Thomasfan89
Top Member
USA
1155 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2004 : 2:01:11 PM
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quote: Now, just an interesting tidbit. Before GM officials signed with Blue Bird to provide an exclusive chassis agreement, GM consulted with Thomas, and Wayne.
Now that is pretty interesting! Hmmm maybe if Wayne took GM up on the offer we would still have Wayne in business. Or if it was Thomas who accepted, we would have a whole different C2 LOL. Interesting how I let my mind wander off. |
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thomas86_a
Top Member
USA
4413 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2004 : 6:06:43 PM
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If Thomas took the GM chassis they would probably be where Blue Bird is today, Thank God they didn't! If Wayne had they would probably still be around, especially with that RE product they were going to introduce. |
If you have an International, you NEED customer service. |
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Thomas Ford 85-16
Top Member
USA
4177 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2004 : 7:23:20 PM
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quote: Originally posted by R. Solano
The Blue Bird CV200 (updated GM cowl) began production in the year of 1992.
The older GM cowl quit production in 1991, however, there were some 1992 models, from non-Blue Bird manufacturers, including AmTran (Ward), Carpenter, Thomas, Wayne, etc. And YES the Detroit 8.2L was an available engine, along with the GM gasoline line.
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Now, just an interesting tidbit. Before GM officials signed with Blue Bird to provide an exclusive chassis agreement, GM consulted with Thomas, and Wayne.
Out of curiosity, where are you getting this information? |
Mike's Bus Yard - http://buses.zwebpages.com - Since 1999
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Rich
Top Member
United States
5768 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2004 : 7:44:36 PM
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quote: Originally posted by The BusBoy
quote: Originally posted by R. Solano
The Blue Bird CV200 (updated GM cowl) began production in the year of 1992.
The older GM cowl quit production in 1991, however, there were some 1992 models, from non-Blue Bird manufacturers, including AmTran (Ward), Carpenter, Thomas, Wayne, etc. And YES the Detroit 8.2L was an available engine, along with the GM gasoline line.
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Now, just an interesting tidbit. Before GM officials signed with Blue Bird to provide an exclusive chassis agreement, GM consulted with Thomas, and Wayne.
Out of curiosity, where are you getting this information?
Primarily from my own experience, but I've also read some of it from old SBFs. |
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92FrdCarp#11
Top Member
USA
1455 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2004 : 6:03:03 PM
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What were the engine options for the GM chassis in 1989? I am wondering because I may be getting a 1989 Blue Bird Chevy. |
Johnny
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Girardin_71
Top Member
Canada
626 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2004 : 6:29:23 PM
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8.2L Diesel and 366 gas engines |
Girardin/Blue-Bird are my favorite school buses
http://www.g71bdpt.net |
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92FrdCarp#11
Top Member
USA
1455 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2004 : 7:49:03 PM
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O ok. I'm not sure if I'll get the bus or not yet. |
Johnny
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78fordwayne
Top Member
USA
2868 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2004 : 8:19:07 PM
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Remember when GM used a 350 in 80s? Not much power there for a full size school bus |
Robert B.
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78fordwayne
Top Member
USA
2868 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2004 : 8:23:05 PM
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The 89 Chevy/ Blue Bird im getting has a 366 in it |
Robert B.
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JC Theriault
Top Member
Canada
1326 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2004 : 8:23:55 PM
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Ohhh the 350 was too small for the '74 Chev 66 pass Superior I drove one year! |
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JC Theriault
Top Member
Canada
1326 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2004 : 8:26:05 PM
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The 366 was a great motor, especially with a 5 speed manual transmission. The rumble of the exaust on the highway was a nice sound! |
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Jared
Top Member
USA
1865 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2004 : 08:50:37 AM
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just to comment, the Cat 3208 was only available in the GMC topkick / Chevy Kodiak first generation, ( 1981-1989 ). These trucks were probably my most favorite look ever. --- ever wonder what a bus would look like with this cowl ??
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/jaredg21/sets/ |
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TC3000
Senior Member
USA
103 Posts |
Posted - 12/22/2004 : 4:05:26 PM
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What was the production lifetime of the Detroit Diesel 8.2?
BTW the http://schoolbusland.com/thomas/20371.htm has a 1991 Thomas on Chevy with GM DD-A 8.2l |
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Rich
Top Member
United States
5768 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2005 : 5:27:39 PM
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The Detroit Diesel 8.2 ended production in 1992, when GM's updated chassis came out. And as far as when it began production, I think it was in the late 1970's. Can any elaborate on that? |
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78fordwayne
Top Member
USA
2868 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2005 : 5:29:29 PM
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The earliest 8.2 I can find is 78. Thats going from parts catalogs that I have at work. |
Edited by - 78fordwayne on 04/14/2005 5:42:49 PM |
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