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mrbluebird
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USA
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Posted - 03/08/2005 :  12:45:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit mrbluebird's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i need some input on what state to start a school bus contracting company in i was thinking penslvanya i dont likeout west .

Peter
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Posted - 03/08/2005 :  1:54:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Could you define "out west?"
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98TomFord
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Posted - 03/08/2005 :  5:47:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit 98TomFord's Homepage  Send 98TomFord an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Pennsy would be a good choice! There's tons of private contractors that lease their buses to area schools to use. Better have proper insurance, and good machanics though incase something was/were to happen. I deffently wish you the best of luck in starting your own company, I'd love to do the same one day. Good Luck

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PHW
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USA
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Posted - 03/09/2005 :  07:08:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Find a state that best allows you to be safe, can keep your customers happy, and to make a profit.

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R44 5308 A Train
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Posted - 03/09/2005 :  2:18:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit R44 5308 A Train's Homepage  Reply with Quote
How about New Jersey so I can see your buses?

New York, New York, a wonderful town,
The Bronx is up, and the Bettery's down,
The people ride in a hole in the ground,
New York, New York, it's a wonderful town!!!!!

-From the 1949 classic movie "On The Town"

I love NYC!!!!!
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Rich
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Posted - 03/09/2005 :  4:34:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jersey is one of the worst states to start a bus contractor. You can't spec a bus with high capacity because of their stupid capacity laws! Besides, insurance is way too expensive, and on top of that, you have to retire a bus after 12 years!



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R44 5308 A Train
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USA
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Posted - 03/09/2005 :  4:37:10 PM  Show Profile  Visit R44 5308 A Train's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That must be why I never see buses there that have more then 72 passengers.

New York, New York, a wonderful town,
The Bronx is up, and the Bettery's down,
The people ride in a hole in the ground,
New York, New York, it's a wonderful town!!!!!

-From the 1949 classic movie "On The Town"

I love NYC!!!!!
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ThomasER0005
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Posted - 03/16/2005 :  3:54:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kentucky would be a great place to start a school bus contracting company

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rswboe
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USA
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Posted - 03/22/2005 :  09:52:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where the heck do you see 72 passenger buses in NJ???? New Jersey Transit? They come under different rules. School buses are limited to 54 in this state.
A little aside to Rich Solano, after 12 years on NJ roads, they NEED to retire!!!! (even that may be too long in some operations!!)

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R44 5308 A Train
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Posted - 03/22/2005 :  4:14:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit R44 5308 A Train's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Where do I see 62 pax buses in NJ? It's called Laidlaw.

And an 40' long & 102" wide NJT bus will seat 45 to 55 passengers, depending on the model.

New York, New York, a wonderful town,
The Bronx is up, and the Bettery's down,
The people ride in a hole in the ground,
New York, New York, it's a wonderful town!!!!!

-From the 1949 classic movie "On The Town"

I love NYC!!!!!
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JC Theriault
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Canada
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Posted - 03/22/2005 :  4:55:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thats only 45 to 55 SEATED passengers on NJT buses, don't forget the standee capacity which is up to 3/4 of the seated passengers capacity as the industry norm.

So a transit bus could hold 78 to 96 on a run if you counted the standees.

As for NJ school buses, a quick check of First Student's used buses for sale listings shows nothing larger than 54 passenger. I can't see state inspectors allowing a rule violation like oversize buses to occur. Nor can I see a contractor such as Laidlaw put themselves in a position of being in the position of running oversize school buses.

Are you sure you aren't seeing "school buses" that are being used for charters or something other than school routes?

JC
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Thomas Ford 85-16
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Posted - 03/22/2005 :  4:59:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit Thomas Ford 85-16's Homepage  Send Thomas Ford 85-16 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't be surprised if some of these buses had full sized shells, but had the rear seats removed to kick down the capacity.
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IC-RE
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USA
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Posted - 03/25/2005 :  5:46:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
My area is not a good place, all buses in this area are county owned besides Williams Bus Lines, which disneynuts could tell you about since he works for them

bus 1980, a 2008 IC RE 300 for Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax, Virginia.
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mrbluebird
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USA
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Posted - 03/26/2005 :  2:37:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit mrbluebird's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i have deside to start my bus company in my home state of michgian in my local area.
i think i will be better off living close to my family and friends.
thank you all for your imput. thakyou all very much

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IC-RE
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Posted - 03/26/2005 :  3:26:45 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
mrbluebird, I wish you the best of luck, and keep us updated, not to mention, take some pictures of your fleet so we can all see them

bus 1980, a 2008 IC RE 300 for Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax, Virginia.
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mrbluebird
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USA
381 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2005 :  10:57:15 AM  Show Profile  Visit mrbluebird's Homepage  Reply with Quote
iwill once i have enough mony to start my company thank you very much your cool to talk to.

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ICfan
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USA
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Posted - 09/09/2005 :  09:32:10 AM  Show Profile  Visit ICfan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
have the best of luck mrbluebird, the current bus co. in Torrignton Ct was started by Rich Dufour, the Company is All-Star Transportation LLC. As of last year he had contracted at least 5 districts including Torrington. So the Best of luck to you!!

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