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1983WardFord
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USA
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 Posted - 05/30/2002 : 2:34:30 PM
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As mentioned in another thread, Jackson received 5 new buses with, among other things, red lights above all the emergency exits. They're on when the headlights are on (that's gotta be fun on in the dark), but I don't think they come on when the door or exits are opened (figure that out).
For my fellow Ohioans: Is this a new state spec? I was told that we almost had to retrofit all the buses with these lights, but somehow got away without having to do so.
For everyone: Who else has this feature on their buses?
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wagonmaster
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USA
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Posted - 05/30/2002 : 3:31:00 PM
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We've been ordering those for many, many years. They are there to highlight the emergency exits during hours of darkness. Should a collision occur where an emergency exit is necessary, they are easy to find.
Retrofitting should be a minimal cost and time issue since they can be wired from the tailights in the rear or marker lights on the side. Hope this helps.
Joe
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thomasvista2012
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USA
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Posted - 05/30/2002 : 3:57:22 PM
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Broward County Schools has retrofitted some of their buses with amber lights below the emergency exit. They are at the bottom of the rear emergency exit door. I think I may have a photo of one.
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BlueBird44
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USA
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Posted - 05/30/2002 : 5:21:21 PM
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All of our newer buses have them now. They can get VERY VERY ANNOYING AT NIGHT WHEN YOU ARE ON A LONG TRIP. When our band rides and has late nights and you want to sleep that light can annoy you to DEATH. They are not allowed to cut it off it has to be on at night. Someone calls it the Red Light Special.
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Rich
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United States
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Posted - 05/30/2002 : 5:21:22 PM
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From what I understand... the red lights above the emergancy doors is a New York State spec. They are only above the rear emergancy door and left hand side emergancy door.
I completely support them... since they maximize the finding of the exits in an emergancy situation. I also feel that lighted up operating instructions should be added... so everyone will know how to open the doors... and even emergancy windows.
I have a question now.  Are the emergancy exit hatches glow in the dark? Just wondering. 
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Rich
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United States
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wagonmaster
Top Member
USA
2298 Posts |
Posted - 05/30/2002 : 5:43:29 PM
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The Broward buses have "de-acceleration" lights on the rear that are amber. Those are activated when the driver removes pressure from the accelerator to let people know when they begin to slow down. Kind of like some transit buses. It is a "Pet Project" of Fleet Manager Tom Warfield. The red lights we are speaking of are inside the bus. Hope this helps.
Joe
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Joe Hartnett
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USA
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Posted - 05/30/2002 : 5:45:52 PM
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I think they are ICC regulations. A white "standee" line on the aisle flooring to the rear of the drivers seat is another one.
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thomasvista2012
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USA
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Posted - 05/30/2002 : 5:47:47 PM
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The Broward buses have "de-acceleration" lights on the rear that are amber. Those are activated when the driver removes pressure from the accelerator to let people know when they begin to slow down. Kind of like some transit buses. It is a "Pet Project" of Fleet Manager Tom Warfield. The red lights we are speaking of are inside the bus. Hope this helps.
Joe
Oh ok. I was wondering what those lights were. I noticed them on the buses when I visited one of their compounds. Not all the buses had them, only some conventionals. Are they apart of some study to prevent collisions from people following too closely to the back of the bus?
As far as the red lights, now I know what you're talking about. We only have those on our lift buses.
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wagonmaster
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USA
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Posted - 05/31/2002 : 05:02:48 AM
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Like many Districts, Broward has suffered NUMEROUS rear end collisions. The lights are, in fact, a test to see if they may help prevent some of them. Results aren't final, but early statistics seem to indicate that they help somewhat.
Joe
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PHW
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 05/31/2002 : 06:54:14 AM
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I received several buses with a bright red light above the emergency exit by mistake in California. They where very bright and glaring. At night this glare can hinder visibility and be a potential hazard from where I see it. Since not required they where removed.
PHW
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Brian M. Babcock
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 05/31/2002 : 09:44:55 AM
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For my fellow Ohioans: Is this a new state spec? I was told that we almost had to retrofit all the buses with these lights, but somehow got away without having to do so.
Sorry Ryan,
I would have answered you sooner but I haven't been checking in too much lately. To answer your question, Yes. The red lights are a new Ohio spec that started in (I think) June 2001. Personally, I don't like them. I know that NY has had this spec. for a quite while now also. They would be better (but not great) if they were a softer color like blue or something. Oh well, there here now I guess.
-Brian 
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Skewl Bus Boi
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USA
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Posted - 05/31/2002 : 09:59:05 AM
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I don't know if it's state spec, but every bus in CT I've seen has them. They're usually shaped like one of the clearance lights, and are on the same circuit as the cl lps.
By the way, speaking of Cl Lps, I was told the other day that on buses with the rectangular marker lights with 2 bulbs, Laidlaw only uses one bulb per light. Anyone else heard of this? I was following a Laidlaw bus that just had one side of each light lit, and I asked the driver, she said that's the way it's supposed to be.
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wagonmaster
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 05/31/2002 : 12:28:58 PM
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Not all of those "double" lights has space for two bulbs. Some do. Many give the appearance of having two bulbs inside when actually they do not.
Joe
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Thomas Ford 85-16
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USA
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Posted - 05/31/2002 : 12:38:29 PM
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I don't think you can even buy them with two bulbs. All the catalogs and buses I've seen with them have only had one bulb socket.
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skoolbus guy
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Canada
160 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2002 : 2:02:50 PM
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They should make a chrome cover that goes over the light with the words "EXIT" cut into it (so the red shines through) and the bottom cut open to light up the actual door. I think that would be a pretty good setup! what do you guys think?
It might be a little easier on the eyes at night!
Jordan.
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wagonmaster
Top Member
USA
2298 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2002 : 2:08:12 PM
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No need to complicate things. Head toward the red light and you'll be headed to the emergency exits!
Joe
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busdrver4jesus
Top Member
USA
802 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2002 : 5:53:40 PM
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Our South Carolina buses do not have the red lights over the emergency doors. I think they are a good idea. Even our new buses, which by the way, are few and far between, dosen't have that feature.
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