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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 03/06/2014 :  5:13:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
2001 AmTran RE w/T444E

It appears that coolant is leaking from somewhere near the lube oil filter. It's a very small leak, only losing maybe a few ounces of coolant every two weeks. What components are near the oil filter that could be leaking coolant?

Fastback
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Posted - 03/07/2014 :  04:11:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oil cooler and engine block heater

Why yes, the ORIGinal CHARGER is a Fastback

Edited by - Fastback on 03/07/2014 04:12:42 AM
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 03/12/2014 :  4:18:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Got another one. 2004 IC RE with a T444E. 129,000 miles.

Bus was towed for a leak at the oil cooler. Problem wasn't properly repaired and the oil cooler started leaking severely again. In addition to the continuing oil cooler issue, mechanics noted the timing cover needs to be replaced.

My question is this. What all is involved in replacing a timing cover on a T444E on IC Rear Engine? How long might this bus be out of service. Our garage is sending the bus out for commercial repair.
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C.HARDY
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Posted - 03/12/2014 :  6:09:39 PM  Show Profile  Click to see C.HARDY's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I've had several leak at the oil cooler. If they O rings get pinched or torn it would leak. They are pretty stout O rings though. I would think a timing cover would be easy to get to in a rear engine bus?

"Hardybusman"
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Fastback
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Posted - 03/13/2014 :  04:23:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The pan has to be removed, its a PITA on a conventional bus, no idea what obstacles would be in the way on an RE.

Why yes, the ORIGinal CHARGER is a Fastback
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 03/13/2014 :  06:42:58 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If I'm looking at this correctly, it appears they'd have to remove the radiator and cooling fan to gain easier access to the engine. The timing cover is located on the front of the engine correct?
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Fastback
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Posted - 03/13/2014 :  06:58:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes timing cover is on the "front" of the engine. They will need clear access to the front, forward top and engine oil pan. Also oil cooler and oil filter mounting assembly must be removed.

Why yes, the ORIGinal CHARGER is a Fastback

Edited by - Fastback on 03/13/2014 07:00:41 AM
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 03/13/2014 :  07:52:57 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think I have a pretty good picture of what all is involved in repairing this bus. Hopefully the repair shop the bus is being sent to will get right to it!
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aaronwilmoth80911
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Posted - 03/14/2014 :  06:23:36 AM  Show Profile  Visit aaronwilmoth80911's Homepage  Reply with Quote
We've done about 5 timing covers on conventional buses over the past year. Yes it is quite time consuming, but not terribly difficult. The biggest obstacle we've encountered is getting the oil pan to seal. If it is not extremely clean, it will leak. We found an aftermarket gasket for the pans and that seems to be working pretty well. If you are sending it out for repair, I would think at least a week it will be down, maybe longer depending on the shop.
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 03/14/2014 :  07:28:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bus was just towed out to our local IC dealer yesterday. Let the timer start...
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C.HARDY
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Posted - 03/17/2014 :  08:33:33 AM  Show Profile  Click to see C.HARDY's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
An aftermarket gasket for a T444E oil pan? All of the ones I've worked on were "glued" and there was no gasket.

"Hardybusman"
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Fastback
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Posted - 03/17/2014 :  12:00:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by C.HARDY

An aftermarket gasket for a T444E oil pan? All of the ones I've worked on were "glued" and there was no gasket.



http://www.jegs.com/i/Moroso/710/27293/10002/-1

never used one myself but they are now available

Why yes, the ORIGinal CHARGER is a Fastback

Edited by - Fastback on 03/17/2014 12:01:33 PM
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aaronwilmoth80911
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Posted - 03/25/2014 :  07:06:21 AM  Show Profile  Visit aaronwilmoth80911's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You have to "glue" the corners when using the aftermarket gasket, but they seem to work, no leaks yet.
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Farmridge
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Posted - 03/27/2014 :  12:11:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have use 2 of the moroso gaskets and they are just amazing.

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