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Rich
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United States
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Posted - 11/02/2001 :  2:41:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey SBF! I'm a 13 year old rider of Royal Coach Lines INC, in Yonkers NY. They are a Royal Pain in the a$$!!! My bus driver is a complete fool. One time he drove with a kid on the stairs and door open. He also puts the ambers on in the last moment. He curses, and jams on the breaks to make kids fall on the ground and shut up! Plus he had a minor accident and did'nt report it!!!!! He calls the bus monitor "Lady" and he drives with his turn signal on for miles without making a turn! He now has to leave the company by December, but I feel bad. Do u agree with the firing?

(Our bus is a '99 Crown/International)


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B. Busguy33
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USA
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Posted - 11/02/2001 :  3:10:08 PM  Show Profile  Visit B. Busguy33's Homepage  Send B. Busguy33 an AOL message  Send B. Busguy33 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Hi BlueBird4ever

Welcome to the SBF Forums!

Just one question...how long has this driver been driving for?

It sounds to me that this driver is making many, many safety imfractions repeatedly. He doesn't seem to understand the meaning of a "school bus driver."

I could go on and on about it, but all I am going to say is WHY IS HE STILL DRIVING? I read your other post under General Interest and I wonder why the company isn't letting him go now, because of the safety imfractions. Hasn't anyone who rides the bus reported him yet? He should take the job more seriously and understand that his actions are completely unacceptable.

Seems like safety is the LAST thing on his mind...

Bob
(B. Busguy33)

"Blue Bird: Always flyin' high above the rest...
Blue Bird: One of America's Best!!! "
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Rich
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United States
5768 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2001 :  07:59:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

Hi BlueBird4ever

Welcome to the SBF Forums!

Just one question...how long has this driver been driving for?

It sounds to me that this driver is making many, many safety imfractions repeatedly. He doesn't seem to understand the meaning of a "school bus driver."

I could go on and on about it, but all I am going to say is WHY IS HE STILL DRIVING? I read your other post under General Interest and I wonder why the company isn't letting him go now, because of the safety imfractions. Hasn't anyone who rides the bus reported him yet? He should take the job more seriously and understand that his actions are completely unacceptable.

Seems like safety is the LAST thing on his mind...

Bob
(B. Busguy33)

"Blue Bird: Always flyin' high above the rest...
Blue Bird: One of America's Best!!! "


This bus driver has been driving at Royal Coach Lines for four years. I am 13, and I got my school principal involved plus Transportation and other people. Also, adults have called and petitions signed! The owner of Royal Coach hates it when I call, and once he told me "Your driver will never get fired by kiddies like you!" Well look what happened now!

"Blue Bird---Flying High Above the Rest!" www.blue-bird.com
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Stevebus42
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USA
363 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2001 :  04:51:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To BluBird4Ever:
You did the right thing by getting the principal and others involved. I am glad that this driver was terminated before he hurt some one real bad. You did the right thing in my book.

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Rich
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United States
5768 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2001 :  07:58:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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To BluBird4Ever:
You did the right thing by getting the principal and others involved. I am glad that this driver was terminated before he hurt some one real bad. You did the right thing in my book.



Thanks for the reply!!!

"Blue Bird---Flying High Above the Rest!" "Blue Bird---Never a Pest!" "Blue Bird--- America's best!" "Blue Bird--- Welcome to the Nest!" www.blue-bird.com www.busexplorer.com
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Pansy713
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USA
18 Posts

Posted - 11/16/2001 :  5:41:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would just like to say congratulations for taking that stand and doing the right thing. I wish that others would do the same if thier drivers were as unsafe as yours.
Job well done BlueBird4Ever

Stephanie Bus #122
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mr.dave
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USA
414 Posts

Posted - 11/19/2001 :  03:53:29 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree this driver had problems, however, it could be he needed more training or an anger management class. Now as for your charges:
Driving with a kid on the stair and door open. Did he force the child to ride there, or did the child refuse to move to a seat? If the first, the driver should have been arrested for endangering the child's life; if the second, he should have parked the bus and had the child arrested for interfering with a bus route.
He curses and jams on the brakes. There is no excuse for such behavior, period.
Kids fall on the ground. There is no excuse for such behavior. The children, if properly seated, would not fall to the floor of the bus much less the ground. Please tell if maybe someone was not properly seated.
I am sorry you had a bad experience with this driver, but please consider a good riding bus route depends on cooperation between the driver and the riders.

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Phil4747
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USA
695 Posts

Posted - 11/19/2001 :  07:39:06 AM  Show Profile  Send Phil4747 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Another possibility for riding in the stepwell...

Maybe the kid thought it would be cool to ride there, asked the driver, and the driver said yes.

—Phil

"It's the same way some people are obsessed with cars. I'm just weird."
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mr.dave
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USA
414 Posts

Posted - 11/19/2001 :  10:47:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You are correct Phil.If the driver allowed the student to ride in the stairwell he showed very poor judgment. I as the driver am responsible for everything that happens on the bus. I read and replied this morning and puzzeled over BlueBird4Ever's letter. it seems he was on an out of cotrol bus,and the driver was not geting cooperation from his riders. The driver must never loose control of himself as this driver did when he jamed on the brakes. The term "shut up !" would indicate a lot of noise on the bus. Most of the drivers I work with are not to smart, they do not surf the net,they are working in a profession that pays over minnimum wage and are happy for the opportunityThey are not educators or behavior specialists. But are asked to manage a bus filled with children who have little incintive to cooperate.BB4E's letter is a tragity barely avoided. I agree with the firing but question the total innocence of the riders. I see this driver each day at work. I hear him and her everyday over the bus radio as some driver is pushed to the edge. sometimes I see him in the mirror. Ours is a lonly job in a crouded bus.It can be hard to keep your cool at times but the driver must control himself if he is to control the bus.My love and support as you enter our profession may your answers be better than mine-dave


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GaBus#147
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USA
8 Posts

Posted - 11/20/2001 :  05:51:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
THE ONLY WORD FOR HIM IS FIRED!!

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CrazySchoolbusDriver
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16 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2001 :  4:19:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
HI GUYS just a wierd question - am i a bad busdriver if i listen to the am/fm radio and let my kids put in a cd if they ask and they behave ? i can concentate on many things at once..should i stop this practice of listening to the radio

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nsmarg
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USA
12 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2001 :  6:32:29 PM  Show Profile  Send nsmarg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I don't see a problem with you using your radio as long as it doesn't interfere with your hearing... ( keep it low) as far as letting the kids chose a cd, you can use that as a treat when they are good.. have a good student( different one each time) bring one in, as long as it is appropriate to listen too.. the old saying, " music calms the wild beast" is very true, especially when there's one of you and more than 20 or more of them....lol

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jthurston
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USA
30 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2001 :  4:02:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit jthurston's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I agree that music calms the wild beast! I find the radio to be very helpful with discipline. I usually have the radio on. But if anyone misbehaves, the radio goes off immediately until the problem is corrected. This is extremely effective! The idea I try to send to the kids is, "If you treat me right, I'll treat you right."

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Rich
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United States
5768 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2002 :  1:04:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sadly, I must say that bus driver is back! Today, he told a kid on the bus to "Go play with your little body part" and he threatened disiplinary action against ME for telling him what mistakes he makes when he drives. He also makes so many kids move up to the front of the bus just for talking... which he doesn't wan't on the bus! Also, he won't even let kids listen to their walkman on the bus. The bus company refuses to take action, even with so many witnesses to his behavior!!!

Oh ya: he looks up in the mirror so damn much he doesn't keep his eyes on the road.

Please reply to this, because I'm bringing these replys to my principal, and mailing them to the bus driver union. Thanks in advance!

Blue Bird... America's BEST!

E-mail me: RLS1400@aol.com, IM me: RLS1400, or visit my site: www.bluebirdstop.cjb.net

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thomas86_a
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USA
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Posted - 01/18/2002 :  2:03:54 PM  Show Profile  Visit thomas86_a's Homepage  Send thomas86_a an AOL message  Reply with Quote
This is rediculous, as a driver of 23 years that is all I have to say. Rididng on a step is illegal with the door closed, let alone open. "go play with your body part" this is very sick, immature, and unprofesional.

If there were a driver like this in my district I can guarantee that I would be picketing to have him gone.

I would rather pull my passengers around in a Radio Flyer than drive a Blue Bird

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JK
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USA
7307 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2002 :  6:33:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit JK's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:

Sadly, I must say that bus driver is back! Today, he told a kid on the bus to "Go play with your little body part" and he threatened disiplinary action against ME for telling him what mistakes he makes when he drives. He also makes so many kids move up to the front of the bus just for talking... which he doesn't wan't on the bus! Also, he won't even let kids listen to their walkman on the bus. The bus company refuses to take action, even with so many witnesses to his behavior!!!

Oh ya: he looks up in the mirror so damn much he doesn't keep his eyes on the road.

Please reply to this, because I'm bringing these replys to my principal, and mailing them to the bus driver union. Thanks in advance!

Blue Bird... America's BEST!

E-mail me: RLS1400@aol.com, IM me: RLS1400, or visit my site: www.bluebirdstop.cjb.net




Sounds like the driver you describe, and according to your side of this story, may be burning out.

One thing certain -- you must stop pointing out the mistakes the driver is making while he is driving the route. This is not a good approach, is distractive and could be considered harassment on your part.

Most drivers make a mistake on occasion, but what you are describing, if accurate, seems beyond the norm. The driver seems stressed, angry and reactive. Any reason for that? (jk)



Edited by - jk on 01/19/2002 10:23:56 AM
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catz
Senior Member

USA
118 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2002 :  03:39:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If this bus driver is really a problem boycott the school bus. If you have a means of alternative transportation use it, even if it means walking to school or riding a city bus.

You could also see if an adult could get a lawyer. For what that bus driver's done it's possible to file a lawsuit against the bus company.

Try calling your local news stations as well. If they get media attention it tends to have an influence on the public's oppion of them.

This many people have viewed my posts



Edited by - catz on 01/23/2002 03:51:54 AM
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