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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 05/27/2005 :  02:04:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You're right about that. Virginia does have tough school bus regulations.

For instance, after 9-11-01, Loudoun County wanted to put a small (probably 2 inches x 3 inches) American flag by the bus number. The state turned said NO!

So, as I was told by an LCPS Transportation official, they got a new law made that allows for small American flags to be placed on the bus.

Now, you see all Loudoun buses with an American flag by the bus number on the driver and passenger side.
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IC-RE
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Posted - 05/27/2005 :  11:52:34 AM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, we have a few drivers that have done that as well in Fairfax. Also in 2001 many drivers mounted a flag on the Antennas of their buses. I liked it a lot and thought it was very patriotic, and I would have done the same. Many drivers tied ribbonds to their crossing mirrors, and bus those plastic sticky flags on their windshields.
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 05/28/2005 :  06:40:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I noticed some drivers who had a front engine or a conventional put a ribbon on the front of there bus.
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deleon
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Posted - 05/29/2005 :  06:57:25 AM  Show Profile  Send deleon a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
hello buckingham county school have one of the new CE200 by ic. buses this bus is so nice.
what type of switches are on your buses.(like strobe,warning,override,etc.)Have anyone seen some va school buses photo online.

DeLeon Anderson
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IC-RE
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Posted - 05/29/2005 :  07:09:07 AM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
yes, www.freewebs.com/amtranre
http://community.webshots.com/user/iccorpre
http://schoolbuscentral.com/gallery/updates/apr05/war1_87int_va.htm
http://schoolbuscentral.com/gallery/archived/mar04/am_1_gen_98_va.htm
http://schoolbuscentral.com/gallery/archived/may04/am_2_re_la90s_va.htm
http://www.busman49.com/FairfaxCoPublic1309.html
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 05/30/2005 :  11:35:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Welcome deleon! We have just basic switches on our IC RE and FE's here in Fairfax. Warning Light, Stop Arm Cancel, Master Cancel, Booster Pump, Strobe Light, Rear Heater, Defroster, Throttle Swithes, Etc.
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deleon
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Posted - 05/30/2005 :  5:50:10 PM  Show Profile  Send deleon a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
what the basics switches.

DeLeon Anderson
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IC
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Posted - 05/30/2005 :  6:26:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They are rocker switches, about 2 inches long and 3/4 inch wide, with a symbol and the word(s) telling what they control, and a little strip that lights up when they are on.

They also put them right where you accidently hit them with your left elbow....so sometimes you fry the kids in the back with the rear heater when it's hot weather.
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vaschoolbus
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Posted - 05/30/2005 :  8:23:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://vaschoolbus.proboards46.com/ see if ya like it!
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 05/31/2005 :  06:34:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Welcome vaschoolbus! That's cool that you've created your own forum, but I think I'll being staying here on SBF.
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TMack8402
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Posted - 05/31/2005 :  6:34:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit TMack8402's Homepage  Send TMack8402 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Anyone have any pics of PG County or Montgomery County school buses?

School Bus Post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Schoolbuspost
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Drew19
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Posted - 05/31/2005 :  7:35:28 PM  Show Profile  Send Drew19 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
not exactly true loundon county IC Re's have exented and the HDX's have extended. But the Hd's do not have extended room and the HDX and HD's look the same expect the front panel is different. and Loundon county still has the roof hatches that can open up top and in loundon county a lot of the bus drivers open them.
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 06/01/2005 :  10:00:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does Loudoun County have the RE 200 or 300? I want to say 300, but I am not certain.
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IC-RE
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Posted - 06/01/2005 :  3:14:37 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 06/02/2005 :  02:03:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok, that's what I thought.
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scottyd
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Posted - 06/04/2005 :  06:51:17 AM  Show Profile  Send scottyd a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
TMack8402, I'll check with Bus801. He and I went to the Montgomery County bus lot recently and I think he took some pics.

Scott
Driving America's Future
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IC-RE
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Posted - 06/04/2005 :  8:50:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Does anybody know if there are any Conventional style buses in Loudoun County, because I haven't seen any before. All I ever see there are Thomas ER's and AmTran and IC RE's. Just curious, same with Arlington, I believe they only have a handful of Type c's left. In Fairfax, they are saying we will be strictly type D's by the beginning of next school year.
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Posted - 06/04/2005 :  11:55:20 PM  Show Profile  Send BusFreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
In Loudoun, Ive seen quite a few Thomas Internationals...I'm sure they must still be around. As for Arlington County, their regular ed fleet is 100 % Rear Engine Transit...Mostly Thomas, ranging from 1991 through 2003, and then IC REs for the 2004 and 2005s. Their special ed fleet though does have atleast one more conventional shorty lingering around. LOTS of Vistas (type B) as well. The newest are FE transit buses like Fairfax uses.

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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 06/05/2005 :  06:54:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Loudoun does have a few conventionals. So does Prince William, Alexandria, and Fauquier.
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IC-RE
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Posted - 06/05/2005 :  06:55:44 AM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Really, I never knew that about Loudoun

Edited by - IC-RE on 06/05/2005 06:56:00 AM
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 06/05/2005 :  2:17:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I will send you some pictures on IM.
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Posted - 06/05/2005 :  2:37:54 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
OKay, great, thank you!
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 06/08/2005 :  02:03:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Loudoun, Alexandria, and Prince William are trying to get rid of their conventionals. Prince William for instance has several 1990 Blue Bird Chevy conventionals that they are trying to replace. They also have alot of 1991 Thomas International's they are trying to rid of. They are buying Thomas MVP EF's and HDX's.

Edited by - IC RE 1629 on 06/08/2005 02:20:28 AM
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Posted - 06/08/2005 :  6:55:22 PM  Show Profile  Send Drew19 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IC RE 1629

Welcome deleon! We have just basic switches on our IC RE and FE's here in Fairfax. Warning Light, Stop Arm Cancel, Master Cancel, Booster Pump, Strobe Light, Rear Heater, Defroster, Throttle Swithes, Etc.



what is a booster pump?
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IC
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Posted - 06/08/2005 :  7:11:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think he's talking about the electric pump that pumps the hot coolant back to the rear heater core (or to the front on a RE). It would take forever otherwise.....

Edited by - IC on 06/08/2005 7:12:40 PM
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 06/09/2005 :  01:56:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The heater booster pump. Without it, your heater are pretty much useless.
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IC
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Posted - 06/09/2005 :  4:57:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey 1629, I don't know about other buses, but on my Ford/Wayne, you only had to run the booster pump for a little while...maybe 15-20 minutes. Then you could shut it off and the hot water would continue to circulate throughout the bus.

The pump on my Ford was a Jabsco rubber impeller pump of a type identical to several I have aboard my Chris*Craft. I've replaced MANY an impeller in those pumps, so I thought it was a good idea to run that booster pump on the bus only as long as necessary.
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IC-RE
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Posted - 06/09/2005 :  5:09:10 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
IC, how you holding up in that Thomas Bus with the heat, yesturday, a driver of a Thomas came on board our bus for several minutes because we have A/C and the poor women was sweating to death, I thought she was having heat stroke, then that was when she said she wished she were back in her Ford Wayne because when it was hot outside, it circulated the air better with the windows open, and that her Thomas was holding in all the hot air, which she is NOT lying, same on the AmTrans without A/C, Our bus went in for service today, and we are in a spare Blue Bird TC2000, and Man we were dying, but my driver said that they were going to give her a Thomas to use and she said NO way because of the heat. Luckily her friend who got an 06 RE won;t be here tomorrow, and we may get it for the day. Man we are spoiled with that A/C, which by the way, doesn't work that great on the buses, BUT HEY, Its' SOMETHING. I don't know how I used to live!!
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IC
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Posted - 06/09/2005 :  6:13:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey IC-RE, I hope these drivers of whom you speak have closed the heater valves on those buses! All our buses have them....in different places, but they all have them. You turn them OFF when it gets hot....so you don't have hot coolant circulating through the heater cores which, as you know, are near the driver and passengers.

The first hot day, I set out to find them on my Thomas....they are behind a little door, up high, in the (left) side compartment where the radiator is located. On conventional buses, they are under the hood, on Amtrans, they are in plain view inside the left engine door. I have no idea where they are on the Blue Birds, other than they have to be up front near the motor. Anyhoo, I shut mine off and it has been bearable on my bus....damned hot, but not heat stroke hot!

So, tell those drivers to turn those valves off, or flag down the next road man they see and get him to do it!

Note: These valves are "gate valves" which take MANY turns to close fully. They ain't like faucet valves that only take a turn or two to close!
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Jim
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Posted - 06/09/2005 :  6:42:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IC

Note: These valves are "gate valves" which take MANY turns to close fully. They ain't like faucet valves that only take a turn or two to close!

And don't forget, "righty tighty, lefty loosey."

Jim
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Posted - 06/09/2005 :  6:45:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
IC, glad to hear all is well on your 97!! will make it a point to let the driver know, the driver is actualy an Area II driver that does various work for Area III like field trips and actualy has a regular run at one of our elementary schools!
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 06/10/2005 :  01:53:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On the AmTran's I know that the booster pump has to run for quite awhile if you want good heat. This holds true for 1629.
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IC-RE
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Posted - 06/10/2005 :  11:43:28 AM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, in the winter, my driver idles the bus for 15 mins, and she has a 15 minute drive from west ox to pick us up, and when we get on it is still freezing, but after a minute or so of us breathing, it gets REALLY hot!
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 06/10/2005 :  1:07:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1629 has some stubborn heaters. Especially that rear heater. I love 1629, but the heaters on that bus aren't very good. Though on the other hand, the A/C works GREAT!!!
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Drew19
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Posted - 06/11/2005 :  12:02:00 PM  Show Profile  Send Drew19 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Well the AC's on the HDX's work great but they also have it so the vents are through out the whole sides of the bus.



quote:
Originally posted by IC-RE

IC, how you holding up in that Thomas Bus with the heat, yesturday, a driver of a Thomas came on board our bus for several minutes because we have A/C and the poor women was sweating to death, I thought she was having heat stroke, then that was when she said she wished she were back in her Ford Wayne because when it was hot outside, it circulated the air better with the windows open, and that her Thomas was holding in all the hot air, which she is NOT lying, same on the AmTrans without A/C, Our bus went in for service today, and we are in a spare Blue Bird TC2000, and Man we were dying, but my driver said that they were going to give her a Thomas to use and she said NO way because of the heat. Luckily her friend who got an 06 RE won;t be here tomorrow, and we may get it for the day. Man we are spoiled with that A/C, which by the way, doesn't work that great on the buses, BUT HEY, Its' SOMETHING. I don't know how I used to live!!

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