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Isellbuses
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Canada
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Posted - 12/17/2004 :  2:53:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Of the new big buses, IC, Blue Bird, Thomas, I would say the Vision is the ugliest.
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1983WardFord
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USA
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Posted - 12/18/2004 :  06:45:47 AM  Show Profile  Send 1983WardFord an AOL message  Send 1983WardFord a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I, personally, don't care for the C2, although I will admit it is slowly beginning to grow on me. Actually, I think if I had to pick the ugliest bus, it would be anything by Collins. THOSE are ugly. Coming in a very close second is anything by Delmar-Keas.

Due to the current economic condition, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off until further notice.
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SuperiorGMC1963
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USA
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Posted - 12/18/2004 :  12:57:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been avoiding responding to this topic for as long as I can. Beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder when it comes to buses.
Ugliest bus? I thought of going back to the 60's and 70's but I'll try to limit my response to buses that are still on the road. What first came to mind (and still comes to mind) has to be Delmar Keas' Superior which morphed into the New Bus Company. I never cared for the original GM Thomas Vista's either. For some reason I actually like the Blue Bird Visions. I see one every once in a while and they look pretty cool coming down the road.

Okay, I have to go back in time. Ugliest bus from the 70's would be the Northern Air but very few of those were made. I never cared much for the Ward body from the 50's through the early 70's. And I always thought that one of the ugliest conventional chassis of all time was the Dodge chassis 1961-73.

Ted


Edited by - SuperiorGMC1963 on 12/18/2004 7:38:07 PM
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Girardin_71
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Canada
626 Posts

Posted - 12/18/2004 :  3:23:09 PM  Show Profile  Send Girardin_71 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
that new bus company FE is uggggglllly. the grill is to big and can scare JK and SK students.

Girardin/Blue-Bird are my favorite school buses

http://www.g71bdpt.net
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pcbuilder03
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USA
171 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2005 :  1:38:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SchoolBusFan

Now the best rear engine I think goes to Thomas' HDX. The Saf-T-Liner ER's were good in appearance. Blue Bird's is okay to me. The IC RE, again, I hate where the grille is located.



I love those HDX's, but my school district isn't getting any. I think the reason they stopped buying Thomases in 2003 was because the MVPs were discontinued (it's just a guess). [When] were the MVP's discontinued, anyway?

Anyway, now they buy Blue Birds, some of the ugliest, crappiest busses in my opinion. They got 9 AA FE's and a few MicroBirds in 2003, and none in 2004 (budget problems). I wonder what they're going to get this summer (if they get any at all).

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pcbuilder03
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USA
171 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2005 :  1:45:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jared

quote:
Originally posted by pcbuilder03

Has anyone seen that Bluebird/Volvo combo in the link in Jared's sig? It looks like a prototype of a copy off the C2. But of course, because it's a Blue Bird, it's gotta be ugly. I think it's a tie between that and that Chickasha thing.



haha, I appreciate the honesty


Heh, no offense; I didn't realize you drew that.

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pcbuilder03
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USA
171 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2005 :  1:58:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Haha, it says "Active Member" under my username. I guess it must go by post counts, because this is the first time I've visited this forum since like Neovember or December!

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Drew19
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USA
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Posted - 06/12/2005 :  4:26:36 PM  Show Profile  Send Drew19 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
The Ugliest Bus is the Blue Bird Mini Bird

Edited by - Drew19 on 06/12/2005 4:27:11 PM
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78fordwayne
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USA
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Posted - 06/12/2005 :  5:03:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit 78fordwayne's Homepage  Send 78fordwayne an AOL message  Send 78fordwayne a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Drew19

The Ugliest Bus is the Blue Bird Mini Bird


Oh come on I love those buses

Robert B.

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IC Guy
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USA
50 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2005 :  04:55:37 AM  Show Profile  Visit IC Guy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Blue Bird Vision
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Bus Boy 39
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USA
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Posted - 06/14/2005 :  12:51:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
People say the Blue Bird Vision is the ugliest. I use to too.....Until I got one! I hated the Vision, I thought they were so ugly unitl I got to drive one. Now I think they are the best looking buses around! Next to a snubby, they are the greatest for visablity. I think the ugliest bus now is the Vista. Yuck, but I shouldn't knock it until I get to drive one!

I'll show you my air brakes if you show me yours.
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98TomFord
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USA
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Posted - 06/14/2005 :  7:41:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit 98TomFord's Homepage  Send 98TomFord an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Well I missed this topic when it first appeared so I'll post now. I can't believe how many of you all hate the DK & NBC buses, I think those were awsome looking buses just because well they were simple (like Carpenters or Waynes). Anyway I think theres a few ugly buses, not just one (well that's more of a lie really). I think the ugliest buses are...The Wayne-Papoose, The 80s BB-MicroBirds, OLD Wards (sorry), The Vision (that's #1 really), and lastly would be Gilligs. But really the Vision is the leader of that group in ugliness.

My Ford Can Turn On $50, Can Your Int? ~Ford Buses - Gems To The Eyes~
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TMack8402
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USA
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Posted - 06/14/2005 :  9:57:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit TMack8402's Homepage  Send TMack8402 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Anything that is Blue Bird!!! BLUE BIRD buses look crappy!!! I'm glad North Carolina is strictly IC and Thomas.

School Bus Post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Schoolbuspost
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pcbuilder03
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USA
171 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2005 :  12:38:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TMack8402

Anything that is Blue Bird!!! BLUE BIRD buses look crappy!!! I'm glad North Carolina is strictly IC and Thomas.


I really don't like any of 'em either. I was raised with Thomases, so I think the BBs are gross looking. Those fake black grilles, the punched in area arounf the flashers, the black around the taillights . . . ugh!

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Edited by - pcbuilder03 on 06/15/2005 12:44:00 PM
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Drew19
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USA
651 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2005 :  12:53:47 PM  Show Profile  Send Drew19 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Actually you don't have to have the black around the rear tail lights. I don't like that either. I would chose to delete that feature.
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98TomFord
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USA
812 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2005 :  7:47:18 PM  Show Profile  Visit 98TomFord's Homepage  Send 98TomFord an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I like the black oval around tail lights, I think it's a good eye-opener for someone who is traveling behind the bus. Carpenter also had this oval from 93-96.

My Ford Can Turn On $50, Can Your Int? ~Ford Buses - Gems To The Eyes~
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Isellbuses
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Canada
828 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2005 :  05:44:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thought you might like this one.

Ugly Bus

A bus carrying only ugly people crashes into an oncoming truck, and everyone inside dies. They then get to meet their maker, and because of the grief they have experienced; He decides to grant them one wish each, before they enter Paradise.

They're all lined up, and God asks the first one what the wish is. "I want to be gorgeous," and so God snaps His fingers, and it is done.

The second one in line hears this and says "I want to be gorgeous too."

Another snap of His fingers and the wish is granted.
This goes on for a while but when God is halfway down the line, the last guy in line starts laughing. When there are only ten people left, this guy is rolling on the floor, laughing.
Finally, God reaches this guy and asks him what his wish will be.

The guy calms down and says: " Make 'em all ugly again."
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pcbuilder03
Senior Member

USA
171 Posts

Posted - 06/18/2005 :  12:11:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Isellbuses

Thought you might like this one.

Ugly Bus

A bus carrying only ugly people crashes into an oncoming truck, and everyone inside dies. They then get to meet their maker, and because of the grief they have experienced; He decides to grant them one wish each, before they enter Paradise.

They're all lined up, and God asks the first one what the wish is. "I want to be gorgeous," and so God snaps His fingers, and it is done.

The second one in line hears this and says "I want to be gorgeous too."

Another snap of His fingers and the wish is granted.
This goes on for a while but when God is halfway down the line, the last guy in line starts laughing. When there are only ten people left, this guy is rolling on the floor, laughing.
Finally, God reaches this guy and asks him what his wish will be.

The guy calms down and says: " Make 'em all ugly again."



LMAO!!!!!!

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Jake
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USA
3518 Posts

Posted - 06/18/2005 :  1:13:45 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Blue Bird Vision

~Jake~

Edited by - Jake on 07/05/2005 07:06:28 AM
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BOBSTILLHASNOROUTEOK
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Laos
8 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2005 :  7:41:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
my carpertnter 1986 ihc is ugly has rusty door and ripped up seat. somebody spraypaint dirty word on side because he dont like me.i wonder why?
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TMack8402
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USA
35 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2005 :  09:26:44 AM  Show Profile  Visit TMack8402's Homepage  Send TMack8402 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 92WardSenatorFE

Blue Bird Vision
Thomas ER's

~Jake~



Thomas ER's? You gotta be kidding me! Anything Thomas looks better than Blue Bird or WARD!

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pcbuilder03
Senior Member

USA
171 Posts

Posted - 06/22/2005 :  10:27:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, really! What's wrong with the Thomas ER's? I like 'em!

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GMCBlueBird83
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USA
1478 Posts

Posted - 06/22/2005 :  10:43:21 AM  Show Profile  Visit GMCBlueBird83's Homepage  Send GMCBlueBird83 an AOL message  Send GMCBlueBird83 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pcbuilder03

Yeah, really! What's wrong with the Thomas ER's? I like 'em!



Agreed! I've loved the Thomas ER since the very first time I saw one which was January or February of 1990 when my district got it's very first transit bus since the 1950s.Here's a link to that bus:
http://www.schoolbusenthusiast.com/december_2004/thomas_er_clarkstown-112.html

Since then, the Thomas ER has evolved into the current HDX and remains my favorite of the rear engines. The newer Blue Bird All American REs are a close second.
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Cody
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United States
1628 Posts

Posted - 06/22/2005 :  11:28:03 AM  Show Profile  Visit Cody's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 92WardSenatorFE

Can somebody tell me the name of what thomas called their RE's in the 1980s?



Thomas ER...lol
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Chris
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USA
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Posted - 06/22/2005 :  11:58:07 AM  Show Profile  Visit Chris's Homepage  Send Chris an AOL message  Click to see Chris's MSN Messenger address  Send Chris a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
"Pusher" or "Diesel Pusher" is a term used for any rear engined bus be it city, school or tour ect.



My Personal Fleet
1985 Ward Ford #1 Lexington Local - 1990 Wayne International NO.2 Walton-Verona - 1992 Ward Senator NO.4 Walton-Verona *SOLD*
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Jake
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USA
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Posted - 06/22/2005 :  12:14:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Post removed

Edited by - Jake on 07/05/2005 07:12:58 AM
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Chris
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USA
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Posted - 06/22/2005 :  12:19:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit Chris's Homepage  Send Chris an AOL message  Click to see Chris's MSN Messenger address  Send Chris a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Even though they aren't around in my area, they are in Kentucky. I have never seen the 1980, or early 90 style but have seen a few of the pre-HDX models.



My Personal Fleet
1985 Ward Ford #1 Lexington Local - 1990 Wayne International NO.2 Walton-Verona - 1992 Ward Senator NO.4 Walton-Verona *SOLD*
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ThomasER0005
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USA
576 Posts

Posted - 06/22/2005 :  5:54:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is two 2000 thomas mvp er at my school district and i am lucky enough to drive one. Ive seen 2 of the same type setting at the bus garage in the next county from me.

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Bus9709
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USA
751 Posts

Posted - 06/30/2005 :  10:44:35 AM  Show Profile  Visit Bus9709's Homepage  Click to see Bus9709's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Isellbuses

I don't know about this one.

http://www.schoolbuscentral.com/gallery/manufacturers/gillig/1_86_pha_ca.htm

What do you think? And a special thanks to School Bus Central for what I think has to be the best picture gallery collection of school buses anywhere. I have sent the URL to friends in Europe and Asia.



That thing looks more like a San Francisco street car, than a school bus.
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72Corsair
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USA
698 Posts

Posted - 06/30/2005 :  10:51:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Im gonna say the C2 has my vote.
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CPCSC_TD
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USA
657 Posts

Posted - 06/30/2005 :  12:46:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
San Fransisco street car? Where is the resemblance? I see a Gillig Phantom. I thought it was a sharp bus. Aerodynamic for the time, high ceiling throughout entire bus, outstanding chassis, massive power train offerings.

Doesn't look or appear at all like a street car.
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wolfman01
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USA
43 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2005 :  7:08:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 92WardSenatorFE

Ehh, I might've messed up on that one. Can somebody tell me the name of what thomas called their RE's in the 1980s? Thats what I ment. Sorry. I like thomas's style, but the front, It just doesn't catch my attention.



Nah, my 82 Transitliner looks just as good as the 90's models:

http://priuschat.com/forums/album_pic.php?pic_id=1337

Proud owner of "ol Smokey", a 1982 Thomas Transitliner ER, bus #40 retired from Texas A&M University. Its currently in the process of being converted for it's second life as an R.V.

Edited by - wolfman01 on 07/01/2005 7:17:43 PM
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BlueBirdBoi3037
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USA
55 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2005 :  06:58:49 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What bus are you refering to? The one that is opened automatically with the link???

"I drive a 2005 Thomas C2!"
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themikepeng
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USA
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Posted - 05/12/2014 :  11:11:08 AM  Show Profile  Visit themikepeng's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 78fordwayne

quote:
Originally posted by Drew19

The Ugliest Bus is the Blue Bird Mini Bird


Oh come on I love those buses


THANK YOU! I love those buses too! the sharp edges and simple retro style are awesome even for those who don't like how it looks, remember that school buses are designed with form followed by function in mind, and the mini bird remained in production for around 25 years, without it the type b bus would have died out long ago, and the only reason they died out in the first place is because type As entered the market! ugliest bus would be the papoose for sure, then the van cons are discusting and vision isn't all that appealing either(can some one tell me why ppl like those? aren't the visions a bit overrated?)

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WayneCustom
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Posted - 08/01/2014 :  05:08:19 AM  Show Profile  Visit WayneCustom's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Chickasaw, Wayne Papoose, Thomas Vista seem to be the consensus here, but I would also think the early model Collins and US Bus units qualify too. I think when you make your little buses look a lot like your big buses, it's a win for models like the Wayne Chaperone II, Blue Bird SRW and DRW, and the IC BE.
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