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thomas86_a
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Posted - 03/20/2003 :  8:01:56 PM  Show Profile  Visit thomas86_a's Homepage  Send thomas86_a an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Ok fellow drivers, (and anyone who knows what their district/contractors policies are) what is the punishment for you if you should accidentally swear on your bus with students onboard?

Today I had a girl who was sent to the principals office by a teacher brought to my bus about 5 mintues before school was let out by the principal, she just brought her out to make sure she got on the bus and didn't cause problems in the school at the end of the day. Well I'm sitting in the drivers seat finishing my pre-trip papers and the girl is yelling and complaining about the school and the principal and I didn't want to hear it and out of my mouth came "don't get on this bus and ***** your head off at me". Well the principal was just walking away and heard me and got on her portable two-way radio and said "easy on the language". I doubt anything will come of this, it's not the first time I've slipped and it was a high schooler I was talking to, certainly not an elementary student. I was just wondering if anyone else has delt with it and what their policies are.

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DeKalb-1634
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Posted - 03/20/2003 :  8:49:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Thomas,

In our district if a driver swear in front of his/her students would be let go. Our TD is a very strict man but fair. When he took over in 99 I know he let go of 4 drivers that had swear in front of their students.

Sound like your TD is not strict, which you are lucky. Just stop and think, what if my TD was that strict. Than you will be more careful what come out your mouth.

Mary Davis

Edited by - DeKalb-1634 on 03/20/2003 8:50:19 PM
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Steven A.Rosenow
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Posted - 03/21/2003 :  12:46:15 AM  Show Profile  Visit Steven A.Rosenow's Homepage  Send Steven A.Rosenow an AOL message  Send Steven A.Rosenow a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
LOL, Bret. Sounds like something you'd do!

I don't know what the policies here are, but I know that when I was in high school, several bus drivers I know and a couple I used to have would swear often when frustrated. Most of the time it was under their breath, but a few times it was directed at a few more-than-unruly pupils who had no regard for the rules of the bus.

I'm sure their parents had complained, but I never hear of any bus driver here getting fired forthat kinda stuff.




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rltinkey
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Posted - 03/21/2003 :  11:59:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Every day we do our absolute best to provide the safest transportation to the students we transport. Occasionally there are events that happen and before we truly have time to formulate a coherent thought, something pops out that we wish we had not said... Apologize and carry on...

Our depot manager has had to speak with drivers in the past, but this does not surface very often. We do our very best to conduct our selves in a professional manor, the same way we would want others to condut them selves in front of our children or grandchildren...

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Rich
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Posted - 03/21/2003 :  12:26:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My bus driver swears a whole lot! LOL! If he was in your district DeKalb he'd certainly be fired. I really don't mind it, since I'm so used to hearing other students and teachers swearing.

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Thomasfan89
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Posted - 03/21/2003 :  1:12:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't worry about it 86a. I've heard drivers, teachers, and students swear. I have sworn when I am really angry but I don't really worry about it as long as it doesn't offend anybody, and usually it doesn't and I don't get offended by it.
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Peter
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Posted - 03/21/2003 :  2:12:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Every year there are a couple of routes that become known as the hell routes. These routes usually feature kids that don't listen and do everything imaginable on the bus from schools where the administrators either don't get involved in bus discipline or are very mamby-pamby about it.

One time I was subbing on one of these routes and we had yet to leave the school in the afternoon. The kids were bouncing off the walls and ceilings - literally. I was hoarse already from talking over them and they weren't paying any attention to me, anyway. The teachers were no help and I was getting desperate. Suddenly, a district car pulled up in front of my bus and a woman got out and boarded the bus. I have never heard a 45 year-old woman yell so loudly or so profanely any other time in my life. Half of the kids' mouths dropped wide open they sat down right away. One boy challenged her and started to talk back.
"You come up here with that mouth and you'll be hurtin' for a week after I boot your sorry ass right off this bus!" she yelled.
"I'm telling my mama."
"Go ahead! Tell your mama to come on down and I'll whoop her ass, too! Anyone else want my foot to be kicking their backside? No? Everybody sit down and shut the hell up and if I hear one bad thing about this bus ride, you're all in a world of hurt!"

The kids hardly said a word through the whole route.

So, sometimes a little cursing an be very effective.

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busdrver4jesus
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Posted - 03/21/2003 :  5:15:40 PM  Show Profile  Send busdrver4jesus an AOL message  Reply with Quote
We had a driver here that slipped up one time and cursed at her students. You would have to know this route - the route from down below! She was written up, but not fired. But what gets me, is that these kids here in our school swears all the time and nothing is ever done to them, and I am serious - its awful what we have to listen to and they are just slapped on the hand. I have herd kids tell diry jokes that their teachers told them. We have written up for saying SHUT UP to the kids.

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thomas86_a
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Posted - 03/21/2003 :  8:07:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit thomas86_a's Homepage  Send thomas86_a an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Oh I'm not worried 89, you take a years worth of riding with me and it adds up. It just had me thinking of what others policies were. The last time I slipped I had a student acting up the entire route, when he got off the bus I told him he had better come on the next day with a better attitude or else I was going to talk to the principal. When he exited the bus he took my crossview mirror and pushed it all the way in on me, I layed on the horn, put it in park, got out and at this point his mother was at the door from hearing the horn, I said if you ever mess with something like that on this bus again you'll be finding your own damn ride to school.

Overall most of my kids are pretty well behaved, but I have about eight of them who feel they do not have to follow the rules (from a lack of discipline at home) so it can be interesting at times. I make them well aware that I have the authority on the bus and that I won't tolerate any nonsense, but they still push.

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Wolf4dk
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Posted - 03/30/2003 :  04:59:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just thought I would add something to Peters post. This reminded me of a route I had for a while. Sometimes you just had to talk in a language that they understood. For instance, our owner had to do a route once that caused him to swear. The kid said he was going to call the bus company and he said go ahead! I am the bus company. Little did the kid know he was the owner. heh But it wasn't because of that. The kid was just not listning to him. But of course after this happened the kid settled down.

Also reminds me of the time I dumped the garbage over a girls head because she had such a foul mouth. I told her if she can talk like trash, she can sit in it. She was the type that thought she knew everything and bossed everyone around on the bus. No matter who it was.

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chevybluebird
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USA
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Posted - 06/21/2003 :  12:45:48 PM  Show Profile  Send chevybluebird an AOL message  Reply with Quote
One of our drivers had a eminem sigalong on the bus with the radio blasting and every on singing along swearing and all.

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unimog
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Posted - 06/24/2003 :  06:58:02 AM  Show Profile  Click to see unimog's MSN Messenger address  Send unimog a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
During my 9th grade center run in Downingtown, PA, i slipped several times. The kids where in "one of those days", a.k.a playing voleyball with tampons, and i stopped the bus, stood up, faced them and i yelled "You are just a herd of pigs! (try Argentinean accent), I am not your ****ing maid, so keep my bus clean!!" That seemed to work for a week or two, but in time it did not work at all.
No one should be fired for potty mouth, since it does not hurt phisically neither produce long term trauma, but it is not advisable. I agree that students use course words, but since school authorities does nothing about everything else, I see no way to stop them. But what I do really believe is that school authorities should permit video and sound recording of bus runs, and randomly send a copy to the student's parents (all of them) once a month. It will make parent's a little more aware what their little angels are doing while you are trying to take them from "Point A to Point B" in the safest manner possible.

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Rich
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Posted - 06/24/2003 :  07:13:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
"You are just a herd of pigs! (try Argentinean accent), I am not your ****ing maid, so keep my bus clean!!"



Thats rather inappropriate to come out of the mouth of school transportation specialist! Even though the students may be rotten, profanity like that could get you taken off of that run or possibly suspended. I would not bother cursing at students, simply because the consequences could be greater than the action.



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thomas86_a
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Posted - 06/24/2003 :  07:28:22 AM  Show Profile  Visit thomas86_a's Homepage  Send thomas86_a an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BlueBird4Ever
Thats rather inappropriate to come out of the mouth of school transportation specialist! Even though the students may be rotten, profanity like that could get you taken off of that run or possibly suspended. I would not bother cursing at students, simply because the consequences could be greater than the action.



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Thomas Ford 85-16
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Posted - 06/24/2003 :  10:18:24 AM  Show Profile  Visit Thomas Ford 85-16's Homepage  Send Thomas Ford 85-16 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BlueBird4Ever

quote:
"You are just a herd of pigs! (try Argentinean accent), I am not your ****ing maid, so keep my bus clean!!"



Thats rather inappropriate to come out of the mouth of school transportation specialist! Even though the students may be rotten, profanity like that could get you taken off of that run or possibly suspended. I would not bother cursing at students, simply because the consequences could be greater than the action.


I think it can happen to anyone of any profession, Richard, even you. When you get caught up in the moment it happens...it's not like you mean to swear at them, it just happens. And I'm sure you know that well!

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1983WardFord
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Posted - 06/24/2003 :  5:17:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I clipped a stop sign once and let a curse word go, under my breath (luckily no one heard me and if they did, they didn't say anything). It can happen to pretty much anyone. Get down off your pedestal Richie.

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Busdude3
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Posted - 06/24/2003 :  6:06:33 PM  Show Profile  Send Busdude3 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Well, if you student like that girl was cursing on my bus, I'd swear at here. My bus driver swears SOMETIMES, very rarely if a child is misbehaving. But its never me lol. But, I think you did the right thing Thomasbus86_a
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Busdude3
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Posted - 06/24/2003 :  6:08:27 PM  Show Profile  Send Busdude3 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Let me reword that, If I had a student who was cursing on my bus, I'd swear back
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Silas J.
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Posted - 06/24/2003 :  6:33:30 PM  Show Profile  Send Silas J. an AOL message  Send Silas J. an ICQ Message  Click to see Silas J.'s MSN Messenger address  Send Silas J. a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
My driver has slipped a few over the past few years I've been on the route,they usally happened when the bus was slipping backwards towards a creek on black ice,or being hit in the back of the head with a pencil or something (usally nothing more than "who the hell threw this?"). In my opinion,a occasional slip can be tolerated,but I wouldn't want drivers cursing a lot.


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thomas86_a
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Posted - 06/24/2003 :  6:57:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit thomas86_a's Homepage  Send thomas86_a an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Not a big deal, don't take this the wrong way or anything, but for the record, I'm thomas86_a, not thomasbus86_a.

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