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Thomasbus24
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Posted - 02/27/2018 :  12:40:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm about to kick off the project of replacing the soft plywood floor in a 95 Carpenter. This isn't a project for my employer, this one's for a friend.

Anybody ever done this job before? Any recommendations for material to use? Anything at all you'd like to share about this job?

RonF
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Posted - 02/27/2018 :  12:53:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
First off it *****. We've done many. I have some posts over on Facebook on the school bus mechanics page. You'll need 8 sheets of 1/2 treated. 2 10 yard rubber and 1 ribbed center if you doing it back for a bus. We used screws from Home depot to put hold that plywood in. # 21380. They are #10x 1 7/16".

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Thomasbus24
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Posted - 02/28/2018 :  02:43:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not on facebook but the bus owner is. I'll have him look it up. Thanks for the numbers of the fasteners you used!

Pressure treated plywood, is that what you mean? We have the floor mats, trim and related. All that's missing are the plywood and new seat bolts.
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bestguessrepairs
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Posted - 02/28/2018 :  12:28:20 PM  Show Profile  Visit bestguessrepairs's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Make sure to use correct size drill bits when drilling holes out and make sure you have extras. I also would prime the plywood on both sides and seal it as your laying it down. If your going to spend the time and money you should take the extra step or two and do as much preventive measures you can.
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Jon the Mekanik
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Posted - 02/28/2018 :  12:38:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jon the Mekanik's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There are buses I have done that have compartments under them so I had to bolts the seats down with kind of a rivet they are use in trailer decking. Some times you cant nut and bolt seats down. You local tailer shop will know what your talking about http://www.pneutek.com/truck-trailer-flooring-pneutek-pneumatic-fastening-tools-fasteners.html
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Thomasbus24
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Posted - 03/01/2018 :  02:52:58 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No storage bins under this bus, thank goodness.
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Donotpass
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Posted - 03/02/2018 :  06:25:51 AM  Show Profile  Visit Donotpass's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Treat all your ply wood you lay down or use marine grade plywood.

be ready for the inevitable cussing fest that will ensue
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Thomasbus24
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Posted - 03/02/2018 :  07:33:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh believe me, you wouldn't want to have a group of 1st graders tour the area during this project. They will learn some new words.

I never cursed as a young guy. Then I started to work on 3 MVP-EFs and 3 Vistas. Things changed.
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Sherm
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Posted - 03/02/2018 :  10:36:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If it's a Carpenter it ought to fall apart pretty easily... :)
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Thomasbus24
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Posted - 03/02/2018 :  12:18:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Half of the seats are breaking out of the floor, so that's a major plus.
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enokradeht
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Posted - 03/02/2018 :  7:22:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you've got bigger problems than just plywood, my guess nothings left
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Thomasbus24
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Posted - 03/05/2018 :  06:47:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's in surprisingly good condition for what it is. Seat bolts are in better shape than my 2002-2010 Blue Birds which makes me sad to think about.

I have a couple areas where I am going to have to repanel the floor and weld in some cross member repair kits. If it was going to be hauling children, I'd refuse to work on it and recommend it be scrapped. Since it's for hobby use (don't ask) it's good enough.
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bedfordone
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Posted - 03/06/2018 :  10:28:57 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have done many rebuilds about twenty or so. I would recommend 5/8 marine grade plywood. I would also recommend removing the body from the frame and have some full length stringers made out of 14 gauge galvanised steel and bolt them to the floor. Make sure you drill out the stringers for hold downs before you bolt the stringers on. I would most certainly prime the plywood or the rubber mat won't adhere properly and it will bubble up if not primed. I use Kilz brand primer. For the seat bolts that don't come through because they are inside of a cross member or whatever, just use lag bolts with lock washers were needed. Good luck too you.

Brian

Brian Prochazka
Bedford City Schools
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