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aaronwilmoth80911
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 Posted - 04/15/2014 : 06:49:12 AM
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| We have had two 2005 Blue Bird Visions that have had a problem with the odometer rolling back randomly this year. Has anybody else experienced this problem? If so, what was the fix? |
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Augroups
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Posted - 05/19/2014 : 09:05:58 AM
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| Is your odometer reset to zero? or reset to some previous non-zero numbers? |
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aaronwilmoth80911
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Posted - 05/19/2014 : 09:37:43 AM
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| Not resetting to zero, just rolls back a few miles sometimes. From what the driver says, it almost seems to set the mileage back to what it was the last time the bus was off. Say for instance it was at 100,000 and she drove 10 miles, it will set back to 100,000 when she turns off the bus and turns it back on to restart her driving. |
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Augroups
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Posted - 05/19/2014 : 11:11:23 AM
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How many miles do those two buses have? It sounds like a hardware malfunction issue. Especially when two buses (same model year, right?) have similar issue.
We recently repaired a malfunction speedometer (send from a Florida dealer) which has about 260K miles. The speedometer was damaged by overload on the slave gauges.
(We checked and identified the cause after the damaged gauge was receive, and called back and confirm that it is a man-made mistake which caused the damage to the gauge.)
We have the speedometer gauge fully repaired. After a full function test, we also carried a durability test (7 days) with speed input of 70 MPH, which add about 11.7K miles to the odometer. Before we ship it back, Our engineer reset the odometer to the same value as it was received. (We have in-house developed tool to reset the odometer and set it to a certain value precisely.)
On your case, you will need to run a circuit level analysis to identify the cause which lead the roll-back of odometer reading. |
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Augroups
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Posted - 05/19/2014 : 12:53:22 PM
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> From what the driver says, it almost seems to set the mileage back to what it was the last time
>the bus was off. Say for instance it was at 100,000 and she drove 10 miles, it will set back to
>100,000 when she turns off the bus and turns it back on to restart her driving.
Does this happen every time, or it only happen occasionally? |
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aaronwilmoth80911
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Posted - 05/19/2014 : 2:34:03 PM
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| Happens on a very rare occasion. One bus had it twice early in the year, the other had it twice within the last month and a half |
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Augroups
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Posted - 05/19/2014 : 3:53:43 PM
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>Happens on a very rare occasion.
This will make the diagnostic even harder. Without duplicate the same issue repeatedly, it is hard to identify the root cause.
>One bus had it twice early in the year, the other had it twice within the last month and a half.
Please keep an eye on it. don't bother to fix it if it doesn't go worse.
From what we have learned, that, those parts for blue bird buses are rare to get since they are not made any more.
If you call Blue Bird/ NABI (they are married not long ago and divorced recently) for parts, you will probably get our contact since they don't have those parts for quite a long time. We receive average one phone calls/week about replacement for broken blue bird gauges and PRX modules.
For gauges like the speedometer tachometer and slave gauges, they are designed to be serviceable. Most of the time, we can have them repaired. Worst case, even if the circuit board is severely damaged, we can have the circuit board totally rebuild. It is just a matter of time and cost.
But for PRX modules (PRX1, PRX2) used in Bluebird buses, they are not designed to be serviceable, the only way to fix it is to rebuild it. This will post heavy cost to the bus owners.
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Augroups
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aaronwilmoth80911
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Posted - 05/20/2014 : 12:51:38 PM
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| No it is not like that one. It is a single gauge similar to that, but ours do not look like that |
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Augroups
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aaronwilmoth80911
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Posted - 05/20/2014 : 1:53:03 PM
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| Ours do not look like those. Ours are Actia gauges that have 3 connections on the back. |
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Augroups
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Posted - 05/20/2014 : 2:20:18 PM
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>Ours are Actia gauges that have 3 connections on the back.
This is interesting.
Do you have a picture on the connector? |
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aaronwilmoth80911
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Posted - 05/20/2014 : 2:31:08 PM
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| I will try to post one sometime this evening or tomorrow. No guarantees that I will get it posted correctly. |
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Augroups
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Posted - 05/21/2014 : 06:49:32 AM
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| Let me know if you have some issue on uploading the picture. |
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aaronwilmoth80911
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Posted - 05/21/2014 : 07:05:41 AM
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| Yes, I have no idea how to upload a picture to the forum. |
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Augroups
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Posted - 05/21/2014 : 09:19:20 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by aaronwilmoth80911
Yes, I have no idea how to upload a picture to the forum.
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Edited by - Augroups on 05/22/2014 06:34:50 AM |
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aaronwilmoth80911
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Posted - 05/22/2014 : 06:25:19 AM
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| I sent you a picture of that speedometer. |
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Augroups
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Posted - 05/22/2014 : 06:35:32 AM
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Originally posted by aaronwilmoth80911
I sent you a picture of that speedometer.
Yes. I have just upload the picture on this link, can you see it? |
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aaronwilmoth80911
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Posted - 05/22/2014 : 07:02:52 AM
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| Yes, it appears. Please let me know what information you can find on these gauges. This particular gauge was not one that had the odometer issue, but the buzzer for the air system is integrated into the gauge and this one was having issues with the buzzer not working. It is however the same type of guage as the ones which had problems with the odometers loosing mileage. |
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Augroups
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Posted - 05/22/2014 : 07:15:25 AM
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Have you contact Actia or Bluebird?
For the moment, we only cover certain blue bird models:Blue Bird L4RE, C4RE, H4RE, SWORD and related models,
And mostly concentrated on repair/rebuild service for Instrument clusters gauges and PRX modules (PRX1, PRX2); mainly due to those components are relatively easy to broken and no longer available even through Bluebird. |
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Augroups
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aaronwilmoth80911
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Posted - 05/22/2014 : 08:38:00 AM
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| Yes, we contacted Blue Bird and they were able to send the gauge back to Actia for repair. I do not know the extent of what was wrong with it, but it was sent back to us to be in proper working order. |
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Augroups
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Posted - 05/24/2014 : 06:06:20 AM
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| Do you mind to share the repair cost for fixing the buzzer? And how long does it take? |
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aaronwilmoth80911
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Posted - 05/27/2014 : 06:16:05 AM
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| I'm not 100% sure, but I believe that Blue-Bird warrantied this problem. Even though the bus was well out of warranty period, by about 4 years or so. It did take quite a long time for the process though. Partly because we had to ship it to the dealer, then they had to ship it to where-ever, the fix had to be done, then the reverse shipping process back to us. All in all, it took about a months time to get it taken care of. No idea of the cost though because they warrantied it. |
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Blue Bird Speedometer/Odometer
