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NFL
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Posted - 03/09/2013 :  09:32:18 AM  Show Profile  Visit NFL's Homepage  Reply with Quote
We have 120 school buses 45 maintenance trucks and a fleet full of grounds equiptment. One grounds mechanic,one bus mechanic, one lead mechainc.LIVING THE DREAM!!!!!!!!!!!!

C.HARDY
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234 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2013 :  2:40:39 PM  Show Profile  Click to see C.HARDY's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
1 man (me) 10 buses,1 pickup, 6 school buildings and 15 acres of ball fields, etc. to maintain. Oh yes living the dream!!.......lol

"Hardybusman"

Edited by - C.HARDY on 03/10/2013 2:45:11 PM
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mike9
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11 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2013 :  06:20:16 AM  Show Profile  Visit mike9's Homepage  Reply with Quote
15 busses,3 trucks, 8 routes, just me. hectic sometimes but i love it!!
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Derbybug
Active Member

USA
36 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2013 :  2:10:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
30 big buses, 8 mini buses, 17 minivans, 2 pick ups, 2 trailers, & 1 Bobcat for me. Plus manage 50 drivers in 2 different locations. Absolutely living the dream (most days)!!!!!!!
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IBTMech
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USA
960 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2013 :  5:45:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit IBTMech's Homepage  Reply with Quote
13 buses,5 school dept. vans and pickups. 11 fire and rescue vehicles, 6 police cruisers and 54 public works, parks, sewer and refuse vehicles and a whole gaggle of weedwackers, hand mowers, chainsaws, pumps, generators etc.
2 fulltime mechanics and we're swamped, especially after a snowstorm. There's a lot of stuff we just send out like transmissions, alignments, AC and such.
Of course, nobody wants to pay any overtime........

Edited by - IBTMech on 03/12/2013 5:59:16 PM
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BLRDVIZN
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USA
9 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2013 :  08:10:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We are currently running 326 buses, 390 White Fleet which consists of 300 registered support vehicles and 90 miscellaneous trailers, mowers, tractors etc.
We have three locations, two of which run a swing shift. I have three dedicated White Fleet techs and thirteen dedicated bus tech's split between our three sites.
We outsource our large body repair jobs and alignments. Our loose bus tires are also outsourced for mounting and balancing purposes only.

I've always been interested to see if a tech to bus/vehicle ratio even exists as a standard. I have yet to come across anything concrete.

WCSD Fleet Manager
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bwest
Administrator

United States
1805 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2013 :  09:43:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BLRDVIZN, every think about using tire balancing beads? I change all my own tires at a very small school and beads keep me from having to waste time taking them to be balanced.

Bryan
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Derbybug
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USA
36 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2013 :  1:27:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought I heard a while ago that the average should be 17 vehicles per mechanic. I don't recall where I heard that but thought it sounded about right.
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BLRDVIZN
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USA
9 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2013 :  05:20:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bwest

BLRDVIZN, every think about using tire balancing beads? I change all my own tires at a very small school and beads keep me from having to waste time taking them to be balanced.



bwest, Interesting, I'll check into that. What's your average cost per wheel for the beads? We are currently looking at Road Force balancing through our tire vendor which runs neck and neck cost wise with weight balancing.

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BLRDVIZN
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USA
9 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2013 :  05:47:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by Derbybug

I thought I heard a while ago that the average should be 17 vehicles per mechanic. I don't recall where I heard that but thought it sounded about right.
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I don't see us ever reaching a 17:1 ratio unfortunately. The maintenance side of the house always seems to left out of the mix when funding comes into play. The school board and public forget about the support staff behind the scene.

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bwest
Administrator

United States
1805 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2013 :  08:02:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BLRDVIZN

quote:
Originally posted by bwest

BLRDVIZN, every think about using tire balancing beads? I change all my own tires at a very small school and beads keep me from having to waste time taking them to be balanced.



bwest, Interesting, I'll check into that. What's your average cost per wheel for the beads? We are currently looking at Road Force balancing through our tire vendor which runs neck and neck cost wise with weight balancing.



$14 It's called Counteract, 10oz. package.

Bryan
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vfr700f2
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10 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2013 :  1:46:20 PM  Show Profile  Visit vfr700f2's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wow! Those are some serious workloads! How old are your fleets? That would have a big impact...

I have one mechanic who fixes about 70 golf carts (gas & electric, average year probably 2003), gators, Kubota RTVs & tram trailers) plus 9 transportation vans (E350, average year 2009), 9 campus trucks (mostly retired transpo vans, average year 2000), 3 SUVs (avg 2012), 5 school busses (avg 1996) and a motor coach (2004).

We try to do 100% of the golf cart work. We send out most everything on the busses (they don't fit in the garage), and send out whatever van/truck stuff we can't manage. I am fortunate to have some good vendors and some excellent ones.

My mechanic is the first winner of our new Quarterly Leadership award.

later
kevin
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BLRDVIZN
New Member

USA
9 Posts

Posted - 03/15/2013 :  06:28:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you!

quote:
Originally posted by bwest

quote:
Originally posted by BLRDVIZN

quote:
Originally posted by bwest

BLRDVIZN, every think about using tire balancing beads? I change all my own tires at a very small school and beads keep me from having to waste time taking them to be balanced.



bwest, Interesting, I'll check into that. What's your average cost per wheel for the beads? We are currently looking at Road Force balancing through our tire vendor which runs neck and neck cost wise with weight balancing.



$14 It's called Counteract, 10oz. package.


WCSD Fleet Manager
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BLRDVIZN
New Member

USA
9 Posts

Posted - 03/15/2013 :  06:57:49 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The average age on our Bus Fleet is 2004. The oldest being a 1990 Ward and the newest being 2013 Blue Birds. The average age on our White Fleet is 1999. The oldest being a 1965 Ford and the newest being 2012 Chevy vans.

Our Bus Fleet consists of diesel, a small number of CNG and soon to be propane. Mainly type C and D buses and a hand full of type A's will be arriving with our propane order.
Our White Fleet consists of RFG and diesel vehicles/tractors, motorcycles, trailers and small equipment.

quote:
Originally posted by vfr700f2

Wow! Those are some serious workloads! How old are your fleets? That would have a big impact...

I have one mechanic who fixes about 70 golf carts (gas & electric, average year probably 2003), gators, Kubota RTVs & tram trailers) plus 9 transportation vans (E350, average year 2009), 9 campus trucks (mostly retired transpo vans, average year 2000), 3 SUVs (avg 2012), 5 school busses (avg 1996) and a motor coach (2004).

We try to do 100% of the golf cart work. We send out most everything on the busses (they don't fit in the garage), and send out whatever van/truck stuff we can't manage. I am fortunate to have some good vendors and some excellent ones.

My mechanic is the first winner of our new Quarterly Leadership award.

later
kevin



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second.flood
Senior Member

USA
169 Posts

Posted - 03/15/2013 :  12:48:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
33 buses
1 backhoe
8 trucks/plows

1 full time mechanic and 1 part/half time mechanic.
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Crown
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33 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2013 :  12:02:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit Crown's Homepage  Reply with Quote
From a fleet perspective, I don't see vehicle age as being the most significant factor at all. In terms of overall down time, new buses are the worst. Lots of bugs and rework. Lots of back and forth with the dealers and/or manufacturers. As a whole, this can take 2-3 years to finally settle down. Next are the buses with not so good electrics and/or engines. These never let up and are a frequent sight in the shop. Last are the claw-hammer types that just happened to be a collection of very good components. These can be new or 30+ years old and don't need much beyond fuel every day. The high tech alternative fuel buses can be a pain but they seem to get ironed out fairly quickly and fall right into the claw-hammer group. I don't think it is possible to have a meaningful mechanic to vehicle ratio without being vehicle specific.
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C.HARDY
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234 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2013 :  7:47:41 PM  Show Profile  Click to see C.HARDY's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
My oldest bus is a 1991 IH with a DT360 387k and the newest is a 1998 GMC minotour 99k...ha ha

"Hardybusman"
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