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CISDbusman
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Posted - 09/10/2012 :  08:16:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
07,with 65K on the clock.

Steering wheel gets a moan/groan in it when turning to right only and really moans at about 1/2 turn from the stop. All lube points have been hit. Noise sounds like a dry bushing somewhere. Looks as if the lower column is a brg? Anyone know whats up near the steering wheel above the pivot joint?

As always MANY thanks for any info provided!!!

tigger2
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USA
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Posted - 09/10/2012 :  12:37:37 PM  Show Profile  Click to see tigger2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Try changing oil and filter in the p/s system. filter is usually in the resevoir.
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dwight
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USA
58 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2012 :  2:44:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Low oil level? Air in system?

Words of caution if the the reservoir is still being made like my class A 1995 Ford 36' motor home. My P/S is the same as what was used on Freightliner, Ford, International (Navistar)Buses and Trucks.

Any crud that falls into the reservoir when you remove the large cover or when you remove the dipstick cap, it goes directly thru the entire steering pump system before it comes back up to the filter. ( Bad Deal ) The 4" O.D. filter has a large 8 PSID by-pass valve. A dirty filter should not restrict oil.

A whine-type noise could be aerated fluid requiring a purge of the P/S system.
Dwight

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matts4290
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Posted - 09/10/2012 :  5:49:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit matts4290's Homepage  Reply with Quote
We've had some of these that are non-buses that have come in and the noise is in the steering box itself. Weller Truck Parts usually has them on the shelf.

We can't all be conventional!
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IC RE 1629
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United States
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Posted - 09/11/2012 :  09:18:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My 2002 International RE (T444E) does the same thing in terms of the groaning noise. On my bus, it seems to do it most during tighter turns.
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Bassman
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USA
558 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2012 :  11:53:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We just had one and the lower column bearing was the culprit. The dust shield had come down exposing the bearing and the bearing was rough. Ours was a tilt column and the assembly is put together such that you can't take it apart and IH doesn't sell anything seperate. We had to buy a column assembly and put it in. There is a clock spring up in the top of the column also, but ours was fine. Ours made noice in both directions though.

Edited by - Bassman on 09/11/2012 11:55:19 AM
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IBTMech
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USA
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Posted - 03/22/2013 :  5:19:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit IBTMech's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I found it usually happened with the engine at a dead idle. It's the sound of a slowly turning pump at full relief pressure. You can feel it in the wheel

If it doesn't fit, FORCE it.
If it breaks, well, it needed replacing anyway.
Pullin' wrenches for 45 years.
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