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bwest
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United States
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 Posted - 12/14/2011 : 10:46:31 AM
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I know this is probably in the news section of this forum but I thought if you are like me you don't go there at all. Please take time to read this. I know there have been many who have lost their life in a similar way but this just really hit me down deep. I am going to print this out for my drivers to read too. I just feal so sorry for those that lost young kids.
My 8 year old had a close call this summer when a van hit him on his bike. By the grace of God he came away with only scrapes and bruses. But when I walked up to the scene my thoughts were that we would never see him again. How horible it must have been to be the parent who heard the crash and then ran out to see the terrible sight. Just remind your drivers how much their concentration is really apprieciated.
http://www.greeleytribune.com/article/20111210/NEWS/712109903/1002&parentprofile=1001
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Thomasbus24
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USA
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Posted - 12/14/2011 : 11:50:38 AM
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| Good post. There was a very in-depth story called "The Crossing" about this posted on here years ago, but sadly, the source is no longer in service. |
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bwest
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United States
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Posted - 12/14/2011 : 12:45:26 PM
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| Sounds like the reporter that did this story has more information. I'm not sure if it is available somewhere or not. I just think it is very important for everyone to keep in mind what could happen if we are not on our toes ALL the time. Poor driver had to move out of the state. I know he was responsible for these kids deaths but there is such a thing as an accident. I will bet that if you were able to look at the investigation that the defrost (or lack there of) played a role in the crash. Does anyone remember the old Carpenters and how they did not clear the windshield very well? |
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Thomasbus24
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USA
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Posted - 12/14/2011 : 1:07:44 PM
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As I remember it, the problem was icing of the side windows. Due to the angle at which the road and tracks intersected, he was dependant on looking over his right shoulder and out the passenger windows to see if the path was clear.
He testified that he stopped, the kids did too. The train crew said he didn't. |
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Fastback
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Posted - 12/15/2011 : 05:08:36 AM
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| I wonder what year thermopane windows started to be required in certain positions on buses? |
Why yes, the ORIGinal CHARGER is a Fastback |
Edited by - Fastback on 12/15/2011 05:09:09 AM |
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Thomas Ford 85-16
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USA
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Posted - 12/15/2011 : 07:13:34 AM
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| Fastback, they are still optional in many regions! I often have to ask my students to wipe off side windows for me when we get to odd angle intersections. |
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Fastback
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Posted - 12/15/2011 : 07:59:21 AM
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Originally posted by Thomas Ford 85-16
Fastback, they are still optional in many regions! I often have to ask my students to wipe off side windows for me when we get to odd angle intersections.
In Iowa thermopanes are required in drivers window, upper entrance door and any side window that happens to be in front of those positions. Optional in other positions.
I am just wondering what year they started being used/required in any position on a school bus? Were they even available in 1960?
The heights of the seat backs on new buses makes a bottom thermopane side sash nearly worthless for drivers vision on many buses. |
Why yes, the ORIGinal CHARGER is a Fastback |
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dwight
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USA
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Posted - 12/21/2011 : 7:54:14 PM
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Thermopane sash windows became available from Bluebird around 1964 but I installed Bluebird storm windows on my 1962 and 1963 Bluebirds myself. They were installed for the winter months only, the same way we did on our houses. The one piece frame and glass covered both the top and bottom of each sash window. I installed one on the left side behind the driver and two on the right side behind the driver so as to have frost free glass for the many angle highway and road and railroad crossings we had as the center cross of the four corners of Minnesota. Around 1964 Bluebird released a factory option on the entrance door for a double channel - one piece rubber for each of the two top windows in the entrance door and upper window in the rear emergency door. That meant one glass was installed from the inside and one from the outside for each window. I specified double glass for the lower half of the doors also. I ordered a large roll of the the double channel rubber and had 18 windows cut and we installed the double door glass in our first three Bluebirds. I still have the storm windows and fasteners for the 1962 Bluebird.
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bwest
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United States
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Posted - 12/22/2011 : 05:11:03 AM
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| That's interesting dwight. I have never heard of the double windows. Do you have trouble with condensation inbetween the panes? |
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Bus crash 50 years ago today
