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Wolf0r
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USA
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Posted - 01/11/2006 :  3:03:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was just curious to see if I was the only one that still uses the old 91 GMCVs. We have 7 getting reinspected this month. Still running very well with 100k plus. My oldest is 90 Chevy/BB with a 8.2, finally fixed all the leaks.

IC-RE
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USA
4117 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2006 :  3:12:07 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
We still have more then 100 1988 GMC Waynes in service with the Detroit Diesel 8.2L's, and they are doing great. many were retired due to age this past summer, however they are still wonderful. Our oldest buses are 1987 Ford Waynes, and one 1987 International Ward.

bus 1980, a 2008 IC RE 300 for Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax, Virginia.
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thomas91
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USA
212 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2006 :  3:20:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
SPARE BUSES

Oldest
1989 Blue Bird/International 3800
DT466/MT643
Newest
1997 Thomas/International
DT466E/AT545

ROUTE BUSES

Oldest
(2) 1992 Blue Bird/Internationals
DTA360/AT545
Newest
2004 Blue Bird/International
DT466E/2000

Edited by - thomas91 on 01/11/2006 5:29:11 PM
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Cody
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United States
1628 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2006 :  3:34:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit Cody's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Spare bus:

1985 Chevy Thomas/366 Gas/5 speed It has just been sitting in the garage for a few months

Route Bus:

2 1992 International Blue Bird/DTA360/AT545 (hey thomas91, same thing!)
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Mechan1c
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USA
674 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2006 :  4:07:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
12 1987 Thomas WestCoastER's in daily service w/3208T & MT643's. 200K buses.
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thomas86_a
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USA
4407 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2006 :  4:42:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit thomas86_a's Homepage  Send thomas86_a an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Oldest Spare Bus:
1993 Thomas/International. DT-360/5-speed manual.

Oldest Route Bus:
1998 Thomas/International. T444E/Allison 545.

Newest Spares:
2 1997 Blue Bird/International. T444E/Allison 545.

Newest Route Buses:
2 06 Thomas HDX. MBE916/Allison PTS3000



If you have an International, you NEED customer service.
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Bus Boy 39
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USA
1315 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2006 :  7:33:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oldest spare buses:
(4) 1993 GMC Blue Bird Gassers
(1) 1995 GMC Blue Bird Gasser

Newest Spare Buses:
(4) 2002 Freightshaker Thomas'

Oldest route buses:
(1) 1995 GMC Blue Bird Gasser
(1) 1995 Chevy Blue Bird Gasser

Newest Route Buses:
(8) 2005 Freightshaker Thomas'

I'll show you my air brakes if you show me yours.
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dmoney127
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USA
253 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2006 :  8:16:24 PM  Show Profile  Send dmoney127 an AOL message  Send dmoney127 an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
Huzzah!

I'm sure some Crown operators will probably better this, but we still have 11 1982 All-American FEs that are still in the game, 6 of which are regular route buses (mostly for short, local routes with no hills to climb). We also have 6 1984s, 3 of which are assigned. Some of our drivers won't drive anything else! These buses are averaging 260-280,000 miles. Most with replaced engines. Still mechanically and cosmetically sound!
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Buskid
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USA
3368 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2006 :  9:24:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit Buskid's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This topic always reminds me of Mojave Unified School District's 1950 Crown Supercoach that's still in-service. Beat that.
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Wolf0r
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USA
2177 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2006 :  08:52:34 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, a lot of the old ones still kicking. That's good to know I am not the only one who puts a lot of time in the old stuff. Thanks for sharing.

“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.”
Neil deGrasse Tyson
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bbird66
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USA
881 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2006 :  09:07:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
92 rt, 93 spare, Int's 466's Thomas's

Were gonna miss you "Brent"..Good luck in "Heidi land"

"I know you miss the Wainwrights Bobby, but they were weak and stupid people...and that's why we have wolves and other large predators" .. The Far Side

"On a two hour delay when will my child be picked up??"








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Thomas Ford 85-16
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USA
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Posted - 01/12/2006 :  10:09:34 AM  Show Profile  Visit Thomas Ford 85-16's Homepage  Send Thomas Ford 85-16 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Oldest Spare Bus:
1997 Thomas Saf-T-Liner MVP EFs

Oldest Route Bus:
1996 Thomas Saf-T-Liner MVP EFs

Newest Spares:
2006 Thomas Saf-T-Liner C2s

Newest Route Buses:
2002 Thomas Saf-T-Liner MVP EFs (for regular routes)
2006 Thomas FS-65s (wheel chair buses)

We never have a set duty for a bus from year to year. It seems that we assign a bus as a spare when it starts to accumulate more mileage than the rest of the buses of the same year model. There's always a variety of buses that aren't assigned to routes one year, but might be in regular duty the next. The C2s are the first exception to this... We got them this summer and normally we put new buses into service right away, however these have been dubbed as buses for field trips and subbing only. Though that's not to stop a couple drivers stealing them away on occasion.

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Thomasfan89
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USA
1142 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2006 :  12:42:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmm My home district:

1987 Carpenter Internationals. DT466/AT545?/Air (Still kickin on Reg Routers)
1988-1992 Carpenter Fords Either 5.9L Cummins or 6.6/7.8L Fords/Allison Auto/Air (Again, still kickin as drivers won't part with their Fords!)

Local District I know the TD at:
1985 Carpenter International- 6.9L/AT-545/Hydro (5 row lift bus, ON REGULAR ROUTE (to run up the miles), he's waiting for state funding to dump it, and rumor is this is its last year)
1988 Thomas International DT360/AT-545/Air (Again on Regular routes for their final year in the fleet due to driver request.)

Greg
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B. Busguy33
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USA
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Posted - 01/12/2006 :  3:56:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit B. Busguy33's Homepage  Send B. Busguy33 an AOL message  Send B. Busguy33 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Oldest Route Buses:

(15 +/-) 1996 International/Blue Bird, 71 passenger, hydraulic brakes, DT466/AT545 (Soon to be retired, sadly)

Oldest Spare Bus:

(5 +/-) 1996 International/Blue Bird, 71 passenger, hydraulic brakes, DT466/AT545 (until we inherited a 1994 International/Blue Bird, 71 passenger, hydraulic brakes, DT408, AT545 -- this would be our oldest spare bus as of a few weeks ago)

Newest Route Buses:

(12) 2002 Blue Bird TC/2000 FE, 77 passenger, air brakes, Cummins ISB/A2000

Our newest route buses will soon be (18) 2006 IC CEs, 71 passenger, hydraulic brakes, VT365/PTS2500

Newest Spare Buses:

(4) 2001 International/Blue Bird, 71 passenger, hydraulic brakes, T444E/AT545

We are getting a total of 20 2006 IC CEs. Once those arrive, 2 of those buses will be kept as spare/trip buses and 18 of them will be assigned to regular routes.
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ICfan
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USA
1251 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2006 :  05:55:28 AM  Show Profile  Visit ICfan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Now I get all of you: South Carolina still uses 1982 and older Carpenters for their routes. Now I see more Frightliners taking over. Thank God!! I come in 2nd for oldest buses still in use!

Tyler Roys Weatherman and International Fan,

http://www.freewebs.com/thectschoolbusyard
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BBInt.10
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USA
1042 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2006 :  5:26:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit BBInt.10's Homepage  Send BBInt.10 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
At my yard it's two 1993 Blue Bird Internationals which are used as spare and trip buses. They are 71 passenger, equipped with the DT466 and air brakes. Our other spares are three 2000 International (Amtran) /Internationals equipped with the DT466, hydraulic brakes, and tinted windows. The Amtrans rarely get used though... even though the Birds are 7 years older, all the drivers would rather use them because they have air brakes and that's what we're used to.

-Dave

If all your problems are behind you... you must be a school bus driver.
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Busdude3
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USA
1178 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2006 :  6:45:41 PM  Show Profile  Send Busdude3 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Oldest route bus is a 1989 Carpenter Classic International 3800, our bus 49. 71 capacity, light brown low-back seats, tan interior.

Oldest spare buses are 1987 Blue Bird All Americans FEs, our buses 20, 21, & 48. 78 capacity, brown low-back seats, tan interior.

Newest route buses are 2006 Thomas Saf-T-Liner EFs with the Cummins ISB engine, buses 69, 70, and 71. 72 capacity, green high back seats, grey interior, and high headroom.

Newest spare bus is a 1997 AmTran Genesis FE (I have no idea why), bus 4. 71 capacity, brown high back seats with white interior and high headroom.

In general, Ohio's oldest bus is a 1977 Superior International used by Hubbard Public Schools in northeastern Ohio...not far from me

Edited by - Busdude3 on 01/17/2006 3:57:13 PM
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1983WardFord
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USA
1375 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2006 :  09:31:00 AM  Show Profile  Send 1983WardFord an AOL message  Send 1983WardFord a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Oldest route bus: 1988 Carpenter International (it's a state bus)

Oldest spare bus: 1988 Blue Bird Ford (also a state bus, but everyone hates it)

Due to the current economic condition, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off until further notice.
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CrownBus1
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USA
633 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2006 :  11:33:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Our oldest spare bus is a 1977 90 passenger Crown. This bus is rarely used because I think my driver is the only one who will drive it. Our oldest route bus is the bus I ride, a 1985 Crown.

Bus 1
1985 Crown
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92FrdCarp#11
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USA
1455 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2006 :  4:24:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit 92FrdCarp#11's Homepage  Send 92FrdCarp#11 an AOL message  Click to see 92FrdCarp#11's MSN Messenger address  Send 92FrdCarp#11 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
The oldest regular route buses in my county are 2 1993 AmTran Genesis'. Our oldest regular spare buses are 2 1992 Carpenter Fords. Our oldest spare special education buses are 1998 Blue Bird Mini Bird Chevys. I'm not sure what the oldest route special education bus is.

Newest buses:
4 2005 IC FEs
2 2005 IC CEs w/ lifts

Johnny

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ThomasER0005
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USA
576 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2006 :  9:37:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Our oldest buses are 1990 IHC Wayne's. 1 is used for a preschool run and the other for a spare, and is sometimes used for the vocational school shuttle. Just last week we were using it for the vocational shuttle anda kid setting in the back shattered one of the side windows. The way they said he done it amazed me, they said he had broken off white pieces from around a spark plug and was flicking it at the window and that was what done it. I never knew that those white pieces could shatter a window like that.

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98TomFord
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USA
812 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2006 :  08:10:03 AM  Show Profile  Visit 98TomFord's Homepage  Send 98TomFord an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Wow you people that have spares built from 88-92 I find to be "new" still altough that isn't holding truth with South Range as it would have a couple years ago.

Spares:
1980International/1994Carpenter
1985International/Carpenter
1989Carpenter/International

If we went back to when I first joined 3ish years ago, we had almost double the number of 80s buses still in operation....
1980 IHC/Superior
1982 Chevy/Carpenter (was in the process of being replaced though)
1980 IHC/1994Carpenter
1985 IHC/Carpenter
1988 GMC/Carpenter
1988 GMC/Carpenter
Hard to believe we had that many spares that long ago too...
So yeah our oldest is a 1980 International rebuilt.

My Ford Can Turn On $50, Can Your Int? ~Ford Buses - Gems To The Eyes~

Edited by - 98TomFord on 01/15/2006 08:11:44 AM
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Ricky
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USA
352 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2006 :  07:42:38 AM  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message  Send Ricky a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Our oldest bus is a 1982, GMC, 65 passenger, Ward Volunteer. It is very seldom used anymore but is there just in case it is needed. We also have several 1974, GMC, Ward Volunteers on the lot that are used for spare parts. They are also strategically placed to protect the route buses from having broken windows.

(AmTran11)
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2006.AAFE.#21
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USA
525 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2006 :  11:50:24 AM  Show Profile  Visit 2006.AAFE.#21's Homepage  Send 2006.AAFE.#21 an AOL message  Click to see 2006.AAFE.#21's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
oldest sub bus

1992 BB TC/2000 FE

Regular route bus

1998 BB TC/2000 FE

Rider of Bus 25, a 2007 Blue Bird All American FE, and Bus 24, a 2009 Blue Bird All American FE.
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Wolf0r
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USA
2177 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2006 :  06:14:59 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well now that's old 1982! The oldest we have in our used bus (retired) lot is a 1978 Intl with a carpenter body. We use it as storage for the bodyshop, it still runs with a jump. The 1991 Chevy/BB we use on the route are still A+ shape! I just got 7 through inspection.

“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.”
Neil deGrasse Tyson
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Dravo
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USA
93 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2006 :  07:22:40 AM  Show Profile  Visit Dravo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Our oldie but goodie is a '91 IH Conventional 360 with a Allison 540 auto and hydraulic brakes. We just replaced the brake lines and sent it on a 300 mile field trip. It cranks up faster than any bus in the fleet. But tends to get used less in the summer due to the 21 window air conditioner vs the compressor driven A/C on the newer busses.
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bluebirdvision
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USA
992 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2006 :  08:00:19 AM  Show Profile  Click to see bluebirdvision's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The oldest bus we have:

In normal service:

1996 Blue Bird International T444E Air brakes, Air horn, Am/fm stereo


Sub Bus:

1995 Blue Bird International same specs as above

Shane Kirley
New York Bus Sales Delivery Driver. (I know its not much, but its a start)


Facebook Page: Blue Bird Corporation Fans
https://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_212311114614&ap=1


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Steven A.Rosenow
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USA
1926 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2006 :  08:12:40 AM  Show Profile  Visit Steven A.Rosenow's Homepage  Send Steven A.Rosenow an AOL message  Send Steven A.Rosenow a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Shelton School District's oldest bus? A 1979 Gillig.

It was believed to've been retired a couple years ago, but apparently it was relegated to a sub bus and underwent a major suspension/drivetrain rebuild.

It still is seen driving around Shelton from time to time. It used to have a Spicer 5-speed manual, but it was converted to an Allison automatic.

Here's some photos of it taken from my website - The Gillig Transit Coach/Pacific SchoolCoach Resource. These photos were taken in the summer of 1998, and both buses alongside of it were retired in 2001.















http://www.gilligcoaches.net
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dem84skeeprollinup
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USA
888 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2006 :  7:36:05 PM  Show Profile  Click to see dem84skeeprollinup's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Our oldest bus is a 97 bb nav. conv66 cap/ roughly 180,000 miles or a 97 tc 2000 84 cap with about 140,000 miles.

Oldest on route 98 bb nav conv./ 72 cap/ 150,000 miles

Do the world a favor and bring back GMC and Ford conventional chassis......

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muhkanik65
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USA
8 Posts

Posted - 02/16/2006 :  5:08:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just figured I'd tell about my oldest still in use.

Want to try a 1968 Crown? The newest big bus I have is a 1985 Crown and the newest bus out of 11 buses is a 1990 Carpenter.

Can anyone beat that?
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Buskid
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USA
3368 Posts

Posted - 02/17/2006 :  07:33:03 AM  Show Profile  Visit Buskid's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by muhkanik65

Just figured I'd tell about my oldest still in use.

Want to try a 1968 Crown? The newest big bus I have is a 1985 Crown and the newest bus out of 11 buses is a 1990 Carpenter.

Can anyone beat that?



1950 Crown Supercoach - Mojave Unified School District # 1
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mrbluebird
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USA
381 Posts

Posted - 02/17/2006 :  07:41:19 AM  Show Profile  Visit mrbluebird's Homepage  Reply with Quote
where i went to school thay had a 1985 blue bird ford convitional school bus it was 21 years old when i was in school now its 24 years old and is now a spare bus .

YOUR CHILDREN'S SAFETY IS OUR BUSINESS

Edited by - mrbluebird on 02/17/2006 07:42:09 AM
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Peter
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USA
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Posted - 02/18/2006 :  08:31:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1985+24 years = 2009. If they got it in the summer or fall of '84, it would be in it's 22nd year of service but the bus really can't be 24 years old.

Spicer is nicer.
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International-9.0
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USA
394 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2006 :  08:50:54 AM  Show Profile  Send International-9.0 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Our oldest buses, which are hardly used, are 2 79 Thomas Fords with the 370. We also have an 80 model Wayne GMC with the 350 and a 1985 BB Chevy with the 366. Our main buses are the 1990 Ward GMC with the 8.2L detroit diesel and the 1984 BB International with the 9 liter. Of course my favorite is the International.
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mrbluebird
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USA
381 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2006 :  05:58:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit mrbluebird's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Peter

1985+24 years = 2009. If they got it in the summer or fall of '84, it would be in it's 22nd year of service but the bus really can't be 24 years old.



yes it is thats what the guy that fixes them told me

YOUR CHILDREN'S SAFETY IS OUR BUSINESS
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Thomas Ford 85-16
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USA
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Posted - 02/20/2006 :  06:39:36 AM  Show Profile  Visit Thomas Ford 85-16's Homepage  Send Thomas Ford 85-16 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
So it's a 1985 model and you insist it's 24 years old? Do you think maybe the guy had a slip of the tongue? hehe Honestly I don't know any district in Michigan who is still hanging on to 1985 models. I got ahold of my used 1985 bus six years ago. And a certain district I know of that held on to buses for the most rediculous amount of time got rid of them a few years ago!

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