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2006.AAFE.#21
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Posted - 01/04/2006 :  2:34:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit 2006.AAFE.#21's Homepage  Send 2006.AAFE.#21 an AOL message  Click to see 2006.AAFE.#21's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
OK, on Ryan's School Bus Yard there is a bus "K" from Hawken School, and when I went to our dealer (Cardinal Bus Sales) I found bus "F". Does anybody know why Hawken does number their buses but instead "letter" them. By the way, Hawken School is in Cuyahoga County.

IC RE 1629
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Posted - 01/04/2006 :  2:40:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The probably want to use there own unique system for ID'ing there buses.
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Busdude3
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Posted - 01/04/2006 :  2:50:59 PM  Show Profile  Send Busdude3 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
They just number, well letter them that way. I'm not sure of the exact reason.

Edited by - Busdude3 on 01/04/2006 4:21:23 PM
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2006.AAFE.#21
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i really didnt expect other people from other states would reply to this (no offense) but i think it is unique

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Thomasfan89
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Posted - 01/04/2006 :  3:30:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A really good friend of mine drives for Hawken. That's their way of numbering the buses, they letter them. They only have like 10-12 buses. It certainly is unique! I am a resident of Cuyahoga County BTW, Hawken isnt too far from me. They have a set fleet with one Thomas International (my friend's bus) and the rest Blue Bird IHC, 2 Visions, and one TC/2000 FE. THey also have (to my knowledge) the ONLY Blue Bird International 3300 SBCV in Ohio.
Greg
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72Corsair
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Posted - 01/04/2006 :  3:36:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
are they a rural district? I didnt think there were any districts that small in Cuyahoga county. I think there is a Hawken school district up by Sandusky too right?
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Thomasfan89
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Hawkin is a K-12 Private school.
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B. Busguy33
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There are two towns and one catolic school in my area using letters as "route numbers." The catholic school uses 7 buses, and the two towns don't have that many buses. The route number (or letter in this case) is in addition to the contractor asset/unit number assigned for the buses.
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Busdude3
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Posted - 01/04/2006 :  4:19:07 PM  Show Profile  Send Busdude3 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 72Corsair

are they a rural district? I didnt think there were any districts that small in Cuyahoga county. I think there is a Hawken school district up by Sandusky too right?



There are no rural school districts or schools in Cuyahoga County. Also, there is no "Hawken School District" by Sandusky. Maybe your thinking of Huron City School District.

Edited by - Busdude3 on 01/04/2006 4:20:56 PM
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 01/05/2006 :  02:19:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This topic makes me think of a good question. What is the numbering system at your operation? Like this district mentioned here uses letters. Does anyone else have some unique system? (colors, animals, etc).
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Rich
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quote:
Originally posted by IC RE 1629

This topic makes me think of a good question. What is the numbering system at your operation? Like this district mentioned here uses letters. Does anyone else have some unique system? (colors, animals, etc).



http://schoolbusfleet.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10253&whichpage=1
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2006.AAFE.#21
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do you have or meybe can get any pics of the buses,Thomasfan89?

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Busdude3
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Posted - 01/05/2006 :  12:25:03 PM  Show Profile  Send Busdude3 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Well you can ask me too Mr. All American. I have several pictures of their current buses and one of their retired buses.

Edited by - Busdude3 on 01/05/2006 1:21:17 PM
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Thomasfan89
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I currently have a picture of all of their fleet buses. It may take some time before I can post them.

Greg
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2006.AAFE.#21
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sorry busdude3 can you please email them to me at BBbusboy@hotmail.com thomasfan89 you can too, if you would please

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Edited by - 2006.AAFE.#21 on 01/05/2006 1:02:43 PM
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Jake
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Posted - 01/05/2006 :  2:37:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I used to know a district who labeled their buses as 91-A, 91-B, etc.
(91 for 1991).

~Jake~
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Ryan (Busdude3),
Can you drop me an email too? A while back you said you'd email me some bus pics (Early/ Mid 2005). I'll tell you what you were gonna send me when you drop me an email (too look at, not for website).
Winxme@wmconnect.com

Thanks, TTYL. ~Jake~
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Brian M. Babcock
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Note strange ID number on bus, 31065, bus number appears to be "G".



About a '74 Ford/Carpenter, Bus "I", I think. Sorry about the hazy pictures.




http://montell305.tripod.com
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2006.AAFE.#21
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thanks for the pics

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pcbuilder03
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Wow, some of those are really old! They're all still used regularly?

There are three kinds of people - those who can count and those who can't.
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Busdude3
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No they aren't.
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pcbuilder03
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By the way, ours (the rear-engine transits, anyway) are numbered 1-73, but the routes are designated by letters (A-Z, AA-AZ, BA-BL, I think). The buses have two slots where a piece of sheet metal (with a letter spray painted on it) can be slipped in. These slots are located just behind the entrance door, above the front tire.

There are three kinds of people - those who can count and those who can't.
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2006.AAFE.#21
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hey Busdude3, can u email the pix to me at BBbusboy@hotmail.com thanks!

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IC-CEiswhereiwannabe
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At my company, all 7500 hundred vehicles (school buses, transit buses, shuttles, paratransit, minivans, fuel trucks, shop trucks, and coaches) have an absolutley unique "hood number" The hood number appears on most vehicles right above the windshield. Its quite a small number. Then, each school bus and transit bus is given a bigger number (that appears once in the front of the bus,once on the left side, once on the right side,and once on the rear) which is the route number. Each school district or transit system has its own set of numbers so there are many buses of the same route number.

Spare buses have a unique hood number as well as a route number that is known by all in that district to be a route number. For instance, all spare buses may be a number in the 600's or 800's.

Lastly, all schoool buses have two signs which are posted in the right and left side window which tells the school district as well as the route number and the kindergarten or activity run number if acclicable. Its actually quite simple acfter you get used to it.

Over the radio, we always use or school district first and then our route number.For example: If I was calling Lewistown School District and then an Lewistown School District bus:

Me: Lewistown bus 46 to Lewistown base.
Dispatch: Go ahead John
Driver: Susie, do you have an E.T.A on transfer number 3
Dispatch: Should be there in a minute John.
Driver: 10-4. Thanks Susie. 46 out

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Me: Lewistown bus 46 to Lewistown bus 22, Janice?
Janice (bus 22): Go ahead John
Me: Janice, are you gonna be to the high school on time?
Janice (bus 22): Yup, I'm pulling in now.
Me: 10-4. 46 out.

The hood numbers are only used for maintenance.

Why can't U C what I C in IC?
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2006.AAFE.#21
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Yesterday..I seen bus "T" I was at my dealer again...it is a 06 Vision..Very Nice bus!

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laneseja
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Posted - 10/13/2012 :  1:31:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit laneseja's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi I know why Hawken uses letters instead of numbers to identify their buses. When I first started driving there, I drove a 1987 International Thomas with a "D" as the local bus id. On the bus, there was a picture of a dog below the D on both sides of the front cowl, only. This was so the very young students and the very young day camp kids (Hawken runs some of their buses for their day camp) could identify which bus was their bus to ride home on. Bus"C" a 1987 International Thomas with an underloader compartment was marked with a picture of a cat on both sides of the front cowl only.These pictures were the outline of the animals done in the same black paint as the bus ID letters and the lettering on the bus. As of 2003, when they replaced Bus C they no longer have the animal pictures on the buses, but have continued to use the letters to identify the buses. I hope this answers the question because I also wondered why they had letters and pictures of animals on the buses when I started driving there also.JL
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RD9000
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I worked in one district that numbered buses with the year of the bus with the order it was purchased. For instance, mine was 9402. It was a '94 Blue Bird/International that was the second bus purchased that year. However, my route number was 10, indicated by a changable black route number sign. This allowed a bus to be identified for maintenance and driver purposes as well as routes to be identified differently, such as if one bus ran more than one route. This posed a problem when the millenium came around lol!
I worked in another district that numbered, lettered, and used animals! I guess they wanted to cover all their bases.
My last district numbered their buses by the route number from 00-99. A bus' number would change if it switched routes or moved to an athletic shuttle or alternate.
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Tatum
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Posted - 10/13/2012 :  7:24:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We just use numbers. Typically, the children who are too young to remember a bus number wear a name tag with their name and bus number on it when they go to load the buses.
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