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IC-RE
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Posted - 01/06/2008 :  10:54:41 AM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Oh ok. Yes I agree, Loudoun does have very weird looking AmTran and IC REs! They have nice CEs and HDX's though.

bus 1980, a 2008 IC RE 300 for Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax, Virginia.
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IC-RE
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Posted - 01/06/2008 :  1:20:34 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I also look at extended skirting as a safety feature, the less space between the ground and the bus, the less likely something is to go under the bus.

bus 1980, a 2008 IC RE 300 for Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax, Virginia.
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Gini
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Posted - 01/07/2008 :  01:29:42 AM  Show Profile  Send Gini an AOL message  Reply with Quote
IC-RE, i always looked @ the lower skirting as a safety hazard! i hated having lower bus parts on my transit, after having such nice clearance on my other buses. there were a lot of places in the past, like construction blocking most of the road, that i would've never made it through w/ a transit.

80-RE4, maybe admin got tired of looking @ all the bad spelling, lol.

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IC-RE
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Posted - 01/07/2008 :  2:19:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Gini, I was thinking that could be an issue, I just thought it would be better for preventing objects or animals (cats dogs) form going under the bus when at a stop or something, but maybe not

bus 1980, a 2008 IC RE 300 for Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax, Virginia.
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 01/07/2008 :  4:12:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think extended skirting is a great safety feature. In a collision where another vehicle strikes the side of the bus, the extended skirting can provide extra protection for the passengers on the bus. I can't say it will help the person hitting the bus though. Most car vs. bus collisions result in the car losing.

Extended skirting also makes luggage compartments look good.
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vabuslover
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Posted - 01/08/2008 :  4:51:57 PM  Show Profile  Click to see vabuslover's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
That user has posted a few of his photos on Wikipedia. I am a user there, and will try to get in touch with him to find out how he finds the wonderful-looking Hampton buses. I know they like to park them in school parking lots kind of like Fairfax does.
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IC
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Posted - 01/08/2008 :  7:56:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vabuslover

That user has posted a few of his photos on Wikipedia. I am a user there, and will try to get in touch with him to find out how he finds the wonderful-looking Hampton buses. I know they like to park them in school parking lots kind of like Fairfax does.




Fairfax doesn't like to park 'em at schools...they have NO CHOICE.

I like where I park (at a school) but I know I'm just one good vandal attack away from having to move!
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IC
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Posted - 01/08/2008 :  8:00:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IC RE 1629

I think extended skirting is a great safety feature. In a collision where another vehicle strikes the side of the bus, the extended skirting can provide extra protection for the passengers on the bus. I can't say it will help the person hitting the bus though. Most car vs. bus collisions result in the car losing.

Extended skirting also makes luggage compartments look good.




I think they buy extended skirting to lessen the chance of a kid climbing under a bus. The skirting itself is quite flimsy. You have to be real careful after a snow....snow iles will take that skirting out!
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 01/09/2008 :  09:29:34 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A lady contacted me through my website asking for assistance in locating a good used school bus. She wants a Type C body, about 30-42 pax in size. She wants to use it for hauling around her family and friends on trips. Lastly, she wants it to be a used school bus that belonged to a Virginia school district.

Any suggestions or information I can give this lady? I'm not much of an expert on the used school bus market. Your help appreciated!
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2006bbvision
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Posted - 01/09/2008 :  10:57:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You may want to have her try to look on the Public surplus web site, I know Newport News had some 1993 Ford B-600 some with lift's and 34 passengers with out, They also may have some 1989-1990 Blue Bird GMC Activity buses all buses have no Air brakes.
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 01/10/2008 :  07:28:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Loudoun County now requires seatbelts:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/09/AR2008010901739.html?hpid=sec-education
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vabuslover
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Posted - 01/10/2008 :  11:15:57 AM  Show Profile  Click to see vabuslover's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I wonder how that will work out. It always sounds like a good idea to the general public, but it can turn out to be something that is unrealistic to people around the buses all day.

Why is it that Fairfax cannot park their buses at lots where they are safer? I know they have tons of buses, but being in an area where buses are always parked in a secure lot it just seems weird to not have them parked there.

Edited by - vabuslover on 01/10/2008 11:17:28 AM
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Gini
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Posted - 01/10/2008 :  1:59:40 PM  Show Profile  Send Gini an AOL message  Reply with Quote
vabuslover- Fairfax doesn't have enough secure lots around the county to park the buses in.

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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 01/10/2008 :  3:07:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey, even "secure" compounds can be infiltrated and buses vandalized. If someone really wants to screw with a bus, they'll do it.
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bsaund09
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Posted - 01/11/2008 :  7:40:51 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
The Virginia General Assembly is considering a bill that will allow the districts to set there own starting date without getting waivers. I bet a lot of school districts will start earlier maybe they will consider ac for the rest of us who dont have that as standard equipment. The new Va Beach C2s for 2008 started going out this week sure does add a different look to the fleet.

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IC-RE
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Posted - 01/11/2008 :  11:28:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I know that Fairfax wants so badly to start the last week in August instead of after Labor day, they have been trying to get that for years. Thats what I have read, and what some teachers have been saying

bus 1980, a 2008 IC RE 300 for Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax, Virginia.
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2006bbvision
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Posted - 01/15/2008 :  5:03:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BSAUND09 WHAT Year is bus 565 in that picture? it is said to see that bus being taking out of service so soon. what is the year? and what year did VA BEACH starting buying the T-444E style engine ?
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bsaund09
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Posted - 01/15/2008 :  8:35:19 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Rare fine to get the old and new bus side by side. 565 is a '94 the first year of the T-444 some are being replaced this year but will most likely be around a little bit longer.

keep those buses rolling
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2006bbvision
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Posted - 01/16/2008 :  11:13:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Bsaund09 I just love hearing about Va Beach school bus fleet!!! IT IS SO SAD TO HEAR THAT:( I used to see that bus around, in the Hill top area often! what type were brought in '94? does that bus have air door?

About how many new buses are coming in? It seems as if some of the Blue birds I have seen in Va beach all have air doors, except for the the 95 Internationals with the side exit doors, I have also seen that some of the newer Birds have the Dt466 engine.
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bsaund09
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Posted - 01/17/2008 :  06:36:18 AM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I think we are getting around 35 C2s most have arrived and then there are 5 or 6 IC buses arriving in the spring. The first air doors in Va Beach were in 1995 but that was only on two of the vista buses(620,621) and then in 1996 all buses were ordered with air doors.

keep those buses rolling
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2006bbvision
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Posted - 01/17/2008 :  10:50:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds cool, how come you guys buy more then one manufacture a year? that is cool, but not common for most Va districts they tend to by only one type. But that is one of the main reason why I have loved the Va Beach school bus fleet for so long really diverse fleet, by far best in Hampton Roads and top in the State.
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bsaund09
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Posted - 01/17/2008 :  4:11:37 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
not sure of the answer to that question but the fleet manager is doing an excellent job of keeping us more up to date . the last few years have been strictly Thomas so a change is good I am very glad they got the bluebird visions i think it is a little nicer then the C2.

keep those buses rolling
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2006bbvision
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Posted - 01/17/2008 :  5:16:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You are so right I will choose a Bird over a Thomas any day, that is good that the fleet manager is keeping the options open, I am guessing he is seeing what works best for the drivers, and mechanics' for upcoming purchases. I would love to see Va beach buy more Transit style buses, about how may do you guys operate in the fleet?
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bsaund09
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Posted - 01/18/2008 :  8:16:56 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
we have 7 transits and dont believe we will see anymore anytime soon. they are still required to purchase on competitive bids but with basically only 3 main body companies and chasises things arent that competitive. i think now the main deal is in the options.

keep those buses rolling
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IC RE 1629
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United States
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Posted - 01/26/2008 :  1:59:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I need assistance with some VA Beach buses. I need model years for the following buses:

699
309
80
A512
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bsaund09
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Posted - 01/26/2008 :  11:24:04 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
699 is a FS 65 2004, 309 is a FS 65 2001 , 80 is a FS 65 2000, and A 512 is or was an '89 Ford Bluebird gone to bus heaven.

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bsaund09
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Posted - 01/26/2008 :  11:28:01 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
but the old 309 was a 1985 International BB older one was a 1973 Ford Ward 5spd., the old 80 was a 1982 Ford Bluebird older a 1969 Ford Thomas that might be more then you wanted but interesting.

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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 01/27/2008 :  08:07:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks bsaund09! Someone sent me photos of those buses. The sender didn't know the correct model years for them.
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bsaund09
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Posted - 01/27/2008 :  12:26:07 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
really that is cool someone else is getting photos from here if you want to sent that person my email stuff maybe we could compare notes by the way really liked seeing those old IHC buses those are really cool i like the ward but most likely because we had some of them.

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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 01/27/2008 :  1:31:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
bsaund09, send me an email via my website: http://www.atlanticbusyard.com/Pages/Gen/Contact.html, so that I can get your email address. I will then forward it the photographer.
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bsaund09
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Posted - 02/08/2008 :  1:08:14 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
well not having much good luck with the vision they went and got them from the dealership 3 of them after waiting for recall work some yet not completed and when i got in it something did not seem right so discovered two of them were not right and one was so they have once again sent it back. i still like the bus but this is getting old although the bus will stay newer longer by not being used everyday is that a plus?? the new C2s seem to be doing pretty good most of them are now on the road in full service.

keep those buses rolling
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 03/10/2008 :  1:03:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been seeing a 90's Carpenter IHC up in the Herndon area, off Centreville Road near West Ox Road. The bus has no markings that I can see. It has the newer Carpenter logo on the roof. It also has two A/C units on the roof. The bus looks to be 64-72 passengers.

Anyone else seen this bus?
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bsaund09
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Posted - 03/10/2008 :  3:33:38 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I saw similiar buses in Va.Beach a few weeks ago they are very shiny. I saw two of them I thought maybe they were from Maryland but i believe they have Va tags. What caught my eye were the ac vents. They were running from Little Creek Navy Base from what I could tell.

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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 03/10/2008 :  5:02:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
bsaund09, are these Fairfax buses?
http://flickr.com/photos/7372257@N05/429426233/
http://flickr.com/photos/7372257@N05/2322096978/
http://flickr.com/photos/7372257@N05/1877661981/
http://flickr.com/photos/7372257@N05/762989477/
http://flickr.com/photos/7372257@N05/429426231/
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bsaund09
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Posted - 03/10/2008 :  6:20:30 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
no those are all va beach buses but i did post a pic of Fairfax's Bus 078 .i have a few other fairfax shots from a few years ago but not posted yet.

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