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2006bbvision
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USA
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Posted - 12/06/2007 :  07:47:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
WOW THOSE BUSES LOOKED NEW AT THE TIME!!!!
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pbfreak30
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USA
171 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2007 :  2:14:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
another interesting this about our new C2's here in Bedford, they have reverse lights that are the exact same size as the brake and turn signals, where the others were about half the size, and the lights stick out more this year from the back of the bus, and like last year are LED

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poor_driver
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Posted - 12/06/2007 :  5:56:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for that pics and you had the right caption. The are gone but i sure won't forget them. Question..........Why are the bus numbers on the c2 place on the front bumper near the entrance door? the last time i saw that was on buses made in the 70's. Ic and Bluebird still place the numbers on the driver side of the bumper.
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bsaund09
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Posted - 12/08/2007 :  10:29:16 AM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
your welcome i wish i did have more pics from back in the day but i guess i will be content with what i got. just wish i had more of the old internationals and 4 light fords but that is ok .The Vision is back i got it back on wednesday and it is doing very well this time. it paid to talk with the official tech mechanic working on it.

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bsaund09
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Posted - 12/11/2007 :  2:45:24 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Well the Vision from Bluebird is gone again with blinking on and off parking lights this makes the 3rd round. However i am getting to drive my old Bus 74 the Bluebird All American Transit from 1999 so far so good.

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2006bbvision
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USA
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Posted - 12/12/2007 :  08:17:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BSAUND09: Wow any word what could be causing the Vision to have problems? And bus 74 I love that bus I have seen that around many times.... I did not know that was a 1999, are you guys using that as a spare? How many Transit buses does VA BEACH have now a days anyway? and when was the first year you guys starting buying the T-444E motors for the international blue birds?

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BigChief
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United States
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Posted - 12/14/2007 :  05:42:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
New guy here, work for Loudoun, although not as a driver. Amazing the amount of information you guys have gathered here.
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Gini
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Posted - 12/14/2007 :  08:36:55 AM  Show Profile  Send Gini an AOL message  Reply with Quote
welcome BigChief!

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IC-RE
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Posted - 12/14/2007 :  2:34:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Welcome BigChief, you all have a great Fleet!!

bus 1980, a 2008 IC RE 300 for Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax, Virginia.
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2006bbvision
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USA
107 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2007 :  4:18:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I second that !I think the top best specd buses in the entire state!
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bluebirdvision
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Posted - 12/14/2007 :  6:11:17 PM  Show Profile  Click to see bluebirdvision's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by disneynuts

IC 1629


Williams had been buying all Thomas for several years. Then switched to IC. Now they are going back to Thomas for their new bus purchases.





I wonder why... Thomas is better than IC anyday (and i'm a Blue Bird Fan) so that basically means that anything is better than IC

Shane Kirley
New York Bus Sales Delivery Driver. (I know its not much, but its a start)


Facebook Page: Blue Bird Corporation Fans
https://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_212311114614&ap=1


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bsaund09
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Posted - 12/15/2007 :  10:04:22 AM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
hey Va Beach finally have gotten the C2 order coming in i have post pics on Flicker if you want to see them under schoolbus. I am happy with the Vision bad bugs and all we are back in it again i am hoping it works this time i havent even driven it longer then 3 days since Nov.8th and i really like the bus.

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BusFreak
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Posted - 12/15/2007 :  10:43:10 AM  Show Profile  Send BusFreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Check out those sweet C2s! Other than private contractors, that is the first time I've seen a C2 in VA with yellow window posts the entire length of the bus! It seems to me that Virginia is starting to crack down on the unusual standards of the C2, by decreasing the black paint on the roof caps, adding the lamp visors, moving the bus number, etc. My only question now, is when is someone going to notice that the C2s don't have the second rub rail wrapping around the back of the bus. I believe that the state standards at one time required that.

PS, those are the smallest regular ed C2s I've seen in the state as well. It seems that most districts across VA have adapted the larger capacity conventionals to extend their routes.

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LBDboater
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USA
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Posted - 12/15/2007 :  1:08:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bsaund09

hey Va Beach finally have gotten the C2 order coming in i have post pics on Flicker if you want to see them under schoolbus. I am happy with the Vision bad bugs and all we are back in it again i am hoping it works this time i havent even driven it longer then 3 days since Nov.8th and i really like the bus.



Someone want to post a link, I can't find the pics on Flickr!
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BusFreak
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Posted - 12/15/2007 :  4:33:12 PM  Show Profile  Send BusFreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LBDboater

quote:
Originally posted by bsaund09

hey Va Beach finally have gotten the C2 order coming in i have post pics on Flicker if you want to see them under schoolbus. I am happy with the Vision bad bugs and all we are back in it again i am hoping it works this time i havent even driven it longer then 3 days since Nov.8th and i really like the bus.



Someone want to post a link, I can't find the pics on Flickr!



http://www.flickr.com/photos/7372257@N05/2113204358/in/photostream/

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pbfreak30
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Posted - 12/15/2007 :  5:38:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wow those are very similar to ours in bedford..the only differences i see is that they are A-shorter and B- have that funky window at in the back, but other than that they look the same, with the 3 full size lights on the back and 5 hole wheels as well

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722
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United States
129 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2007 :  7:47:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The rub rail wrapping around above the tail lamps is not a requirement on the C2 buses. This a a hold over from year's gone by as a way to re-enforce the corner post on the bodies. I would expect them to slowly dissapear on Blue Birds & AmTrans in the future.

The yellow window post were part of the standards for 2007. As many districts have gotten used to the extra black (standard pattern) it took a little getting used to for the more yellow ,especially around the fixed rear side window that used to blend in.

BusFreak, check out Arlington's,Prince William's or Falls Church's latest C2's and you will see the new paint pattern. Upcoming changes on the C2 include a slightly redesigned front roof cap, and a new drivers swich panel with storage compartment for the driver.

Little tid bit, look for the return of lettering on the rear of the buses on 2008 specs "STOP WHEN RED LIGHTS FLASH" back when Disney & I drove they used to have "STOP STATE LAW" on the back.

Happy Holidays All, Merry Christmas ......

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Gini
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USA
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Posted - 12/16/2007 :  8:38:35 PM  Show Profile  Send Gini an AOL message  Reply with Quote
i remember when the buses had "Stop State Law" on the back. i used to drive one attendant nuts when we would pull into line @ our ES, i'd read the words 3 different ways- "Stop! State Law". then "Stop State! Law". finally, "Stop State Law!" poor thing didn't have a sense of humor.

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IC-RE
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Posted - 12/16/2007 :  9:22:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
HAHA Gini! I love your first one!! "STOP!!! State Law!" haha

I think lettering looks awful! And it particularly looks terrible on the rears of IC REs because there really isnt room due to the grill being so large!

bus 1980, a 2008 IC RE 300 for Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax, Virginia.
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poor_driver
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Posted - 12/17/2007 :  6:45:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can't help it. I still keep looking at those pics. I know where some of those 70's and 80's fords, and gmcs are in yards and other places...sure wish i had the money and restore them.

Ya know, kinda funny that you still see those buses body holding up in the awkward Virginia weather all these years...wonder if these newer buses can last like the oldies!
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BusFreak
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USA
798 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2007 :  7:05:23 PM  Show Profile  Send BusFreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
OK...now that you mention it, the new Arllington C2s do infact have the yellow between the window frames! I always thought the window posts were still black, and that only the back window was surrounded by yellow. Anyway, I would LOVE to see these new C2s in 15 years to see how well they have held.

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mtirv
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USA
407 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2007 :  1:47:33 PM  Show Profile  Click to see mtirv's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Falls Church got our one new bus for the year...

23, a new Thomas C2, not speced as nicely as most of our newer buses, from what I've seen. There are no LED lights for turn/stop/backup, or for the warning lights. I don't know if it has A/C, but I would assume so. A unique feature is that they have covers over the warning lights, unlike most C2s that I've seen, and, unlike 21, another C2, they have the yellow between the window frames.
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BusFreak
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Posted - 12/19/2007 :  5:29:20 PM  Show Profile  Send BusFreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
It's interesting how in some of the smaller districts in the state, the upgrades tend to fade in and out. Sometimes, i get the feeling that those districts buy buses right off the lot as opposed to ordering buses to their standard specs. Fluvanna County got a new IC RE this past summer, and one of FEW upgrades it has is the DT466 engine. No tinted windows, no LEDs, no extended skirting. They do, however, have an 02(ish) International RE spected IDENTICALLY to Fairfax's 02 International REs, only without A/C. At first sight though, the bus looks like it belongs to Fairfax. It even has the passenger side e-door. Their new IC-RE doesn't even compare to the old one. Some of the buses in Alexandria city are also very rare in their lack of upgrades.

I'm excited to see the new Falls Church bus on the road...the C2s are EVERYWHERE in northern virginia now. Talk about some LONG conventional buses!

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IC-RE
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Posted - 12/19/2007 :  6:20:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Reston Childrens center just got a small C2 too, it doesnt even have window tints! I like the C2 in small capacities, but when they are big, they are UGLY!!! They had a Thomas Freightliner in crappy condition before they got the C2

bus 1980, a 2008 IC RE 300 for Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax, Virginia.
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mtirv
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Posted - 12/19/2007 :  7:31:05 PM  Show Profile  Click to see mtirv's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BusFreak

It's interesting how in some of the smaller districts in the state, the upgrades tend to fade in and out. Sometimes, i get the feeling that those districts buy buses right off the lot as opposed to ordering buses to their standard specs.

I'm excited to see the new Falls Church bus on the road...the C2s are EVERYWHERE in northern virginia now. Talk about some LONG conventional buses!



Yeah, it's nice to see these buses becoming more common Now Fairfax just needs an order of them.

I'm thinking that in recent years, when they started buying conventionals again, Falls Church has just been buying their buses from the lot. Before 3 years ago, there were groups of 3 or 4 buses that were very similar, but in the last few years, in order, we've got a IC-CE, a C2, a IC-CE, and another C2.

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Bus 801
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USA
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Posted - 12/22/2007 :  10:13:12 AM  Show Profile  Send Bus 801 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Falls Church has also attached themselves to our bus bids in the past. Some of their IC REs were from our bids. Alexandria's bus 7 also is a plain bus. It it is an IC CE SE bus (05/06?) with non-tinted windows and no AC.

Rob
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Edited by - Bus 801 on 12/22/2007 10:16:40 AM
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IC RE 1629
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United States
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Posted - 12/22/2007 :  11:44:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's an imagined scenario.

We all know that the City of Fairfax owns four schools. Fairfax HS, Lanier MS, Providence ES, and Daniels Run ES. We know the City of Fairfax has it's own school board. We contract out to Fairfax County to have them run our schools and provide certain services, like transportation. But what if the City school board decided to start providing their own transportation for city school students? Would you think this would be a good idea? Let's imagine that the city decided it would buy it's own buses for city schools and then contract out to have the county service and repair them? Pretend you were at a school board meeting discussing this proposed decision. What you would you say at the meeting?

I personally think it would be neat to see that happen, but currently things are running pretty smoothly they way they are.
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IC-RE
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Posted - 12/22/2007 :  1:12:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think it would be a very poor decision. This issue has come up before, I have read about it, and we have discussed it in my government classes in high school. It just wouldnt make sense. It wouldnt really affect FCPS so much as it would the City of Fairfax. If the City were ever to do this, I dont see how they would do it without contracting out to WIlliams or something. IF they didnt contract out they would have to start with nothing, i.e. buy all new buses etc.

bus 1980, a 2008 IC RE 300 for Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax, Virginia.
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 01/05/2008 :  06:48:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hampton City Schools - AmTran RE:
http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2151929983&size=o

That thing looks so similar to our RE's. Only it has a wheelchair lift, low profile roof hatches, and no rubber strip around the rear wheel. It's also missing the two-way radio antenna on the front of the roof like we have.

On another note, is the person who takes these photos a member of SBF Forums? http://flickr.com/photos/7372257@N05/

Edited by - IC RE 1629 on 01/05/2008 06:51:36 AM
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IC-RE
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Posted - 01/05/2008 :  07:57:15 AM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Whoa that is soooo similar to our AmTrans

and Yes, that is bsaund09

bus 1980, a 2008 IC RE 300 for Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax, Virginia.
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 01/05/2008 :  09:24:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's what I thought! He's got some excellent pics!
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Bus 801
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Posted - 01/05/2008 :  11:40:38 AM  Show Profile  Send Bus 801 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Richmond City schools also has some Amtran REs with low headroom similar to ours.

Rob
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BusFreak
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USA
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Posted - 01/06/2008 :  08:57:01 AM  Show Profile  Send BusFreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I always thought that REs with standard skirting looked top heavy...does anyone else agree?


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IC-RE
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Posted - 01/06/2008 :  09:58:40 AM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I do agree, they look long and skinny like Loudoun's! But doesnt that Hampton RE have the same skirting FCPS has?

bus 1980, a 2008 IC RE 300 for Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax, Virginia.
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BusFreak
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Posted - 01/06/2008 :  10:14:17 AM  Show Profile  Send BusFreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
no...hampton has standard skirting...it looks a little different because it doesn't have the lower rub rail, but it's regular skirting. Loudouns REs with standard skirting look even more wierd because they are longer buses. They have 14 windows on either side, instead of 13.

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