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buslady-582
Advanced Member
USA
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 Posted - 12/07/2004 : 4:25:37 PM
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My terminal's "yard man" was nice enough to take me on a tour and let me take all the pictures that I wanted. They have some unique school buses and coaches. Anyway, I thought I would post them and see if you "busnut" pros could figure out what they are. I thought it might be fun for you and I could learn along the way. Here's the first set. Also, please let me know if I should resize or post the pics differently..I don't know much about that either...Anyway here goes:
Any guesses? 
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Edited by - buslady-582 on 12/07/2004 5:03:41 PM
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78fordwayne
Top Member
USA
2868 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2004 : 5:05:32 PM
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Blue Bird All American FE . 90s
Looks good with the crome bumpers. Never seen one like that |
Robert B.
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BBAllAmericanRE
Advanced Member
USA
357 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2004 : 5:12:55 PM
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| Beautiful Bus! |
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Rich
Top Member
United States
5768 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2004 : 5:14:11 PM
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Blue Bird All American FE.
Model year - 1989 through 1998. |
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Edited by - Rich on 12/07/2004 5:19:16 PM |
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Chris
Top Member
USA
1013 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2004 : 5:18:41 PM
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| That there is an early to mid 90's Blue Bird All American FE. Never seen one with that much chrome before, not bad! |
My Personal Fleet
1985 Ward Ford #1 Lexington Local - 1990 Wayne International NO.2 Walton-Verona - 1992 Ward Senator NO.4 Walton-Verona *SOLD* |
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IC
Top Member
USA
3413 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2004 : 5:23:43 PM
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Beautiful bus, buslady!
But hey, why would such a late model bus have a 4 lamp system?
All our '88 and up buses have the 8 lamp system...... |
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Rich
Top Member
United States
5768 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2004 : 5:27:48 PM
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Originally posted by IC
Beautiful bus, buslady!
But hey, why would such a late model bus have a 4 lamp system?
All our '88 and up buses have the 8 lamp system......
The bus is probably from Wisconsin. Wisconsin is the lone state that requires 4-lamp warning lights. |
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Chris
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 12/07/2004 : 5:27:49 PM
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Originally posted by IC
Beautiful bus, buslady!
But hey, why would such a late model bus have a 4 lamp system?
All our '88 and up buses have the 8 lamp system......
Up North, newer buses with the 4-ways aren't rare. They're found all over Canada, Michigan and I would guess throughout Wisconsin as well. Guess they just prefer the 4-ways over 8. I like the looks of 8-ways over 4-ways though. |
My Personal Fleet
1985 Ward Ford #1 Lexington Local - 1990 Wayne International NO.2 Walton-Verona - 1992 Ward Senator NO.4 Walton-Verona *SOLD* |
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72Corsair
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 12/07/2004 : 5:39:24 PM
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| I think it's an All American dream bus. As to what chris is saying 4 ways are up north alot. |
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CountGirl
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 12/07/2004 : 5:45:48 PM
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Wow! Awesome find! We used to have a bus similar to this one with all the chrome on it at our lot, but it headed to Montana very thirsty for oil along the way because nobody sent it through detox here in Oregon to stop that quart-a-week habit. I've been looking to identify one for years, and I guess I just did! 
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IC-RE
Top Member
USA
4117 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2004 : 6:04:06 PM
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NICE BUS
1992 (I'm guessing), Blue Bird All American FE |
 bus 1980, a 2008 IC RE 300 for Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax, Virginia. |
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IC
Top Member
USA
3413 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2004 : 6:20:30 PM
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| WOW, I just noticed the overhead racks....I've never seen those on a school bus! |
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SchoolBusFan
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 12/07/2004 : 7:59:19 PM
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| Definitely a '91 or '92 Blue Bird All American FE!! I'd probably choose if I had to choose one year, a '91. Probably an 84 passenger capacity. Manual door. Nice bumpers and wheels!! |
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SuperiorGMC1963
Top Member
USA
1079 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2004 : 8:39:56 PM
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Originally posted by Rich Solano
Blue Bird All American FE.
Model year - 1989 through 1998.
Yep, I'll agree with Richard. You really can't narrow it down any more than that because Wisconsin had 4 ways throughout those years (still do). And there wasn't much that changed on the All-Americans of that era. Now if I really had to guess the exact year, hmmm, let me look into my crystal ball.  I'll guess 1992. That's my final answer.
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overbyja
Senior Member
USA
123 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2004 : 10:00:34 PM
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| Hey guys, I'm new to this forum, but I would like to add a few comments on this post. I live right across the river from Wisconsin (in Michigan). Actually, in Michigan, all busses built after the 1990 model year are required to have the 8-way flashers. In my district, they actually converted some of the busses from the early 90's from 4-way to 8-way. Just thought you'd like to know!! |
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SuperiorGMC1963
Top Member
USA
1079 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2004 : 07:46:31 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by overbyja
I live right across the river from Wisconsin (in Michigan). /quote]
LOL, at first I thought you were referring to Lake Michigan as 'the river' and then I read your profile and saw that you live in Menominee. I don't remember all of my Michigan geography but I figure there must be a river between there and Wisconsin.
Wecome to the Forums! I lived in northern Michigan (Traverse City) for 40 years before moving to SE Georgia. I'm with you...Go SPARTANS! And now the big question...are you a Packer fan or Lions? I'll always be a diehard Lions, Tigers, Pistons, Red Wings fan. |
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Busdude3
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 12/08/2004 : 1:27:52 PM
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Originally posted by Rich Solano
Blue Bird All American FE.
Model year - 1989 through 1998.
Actually, from 1989-1991 they had "Blue Bird" in silver letters around black trim on the front. From 1991-1998 was the silver letters and yellow around it. |
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78fordwayne
Top Member
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2868 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2004 : 3:48:59 PM
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Originally posted by Busdude3
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Originally posted by Rich Solano
Actually, from 1989-1991 they had "Blue Bird" in silver letters around black trim on the front. From 1991-1998 was the silver letters and yellow around it.
The TC2000 had the black around BLUE BIRD but I dont think the All Amaricans did. I have a 91 All American on my site that doesnt have the black around the BLUE BIRD. |
Robert B.
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1983WardFord
Top Member
USA
1395 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2004 : 3:49:51 PM
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| Pretty bus! I want one! |
Due to the current economic condition, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off until further notice. |
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Rich
Top Member
United States
5768 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2004 : 3:54:54 PM
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The black around the Blue Bird emblem was optional - I've seen pre-91s with and without it.
Now, back to topic. I'm going to narrow down my guess on that bus to 1991 to 1996. Hope I'm right. |
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overbyja
Senior Member
USA
123 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2004 : 3:56:01 PM
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Originally posted by SuperiorGMC1963
[quote]Originally posted by overbyja
I live right across the river from Wisconsin (in Michigan). /quote]
LOL, at first I thought you were referring to Lake Michigan as 'the river' and then I read your profile and saw that you live in Menominee. I don't remember all of my Michigan geography but I figure there must be a river between there and Wisconsin.
Wecome to the Forums! I lived in northern Michigan (Traverse City) for 40 years before moving to SE Georgia. I'm with you...Go SPARTANS! And now the big question...are you a Packer fan or Lions?
I'll always be a diehard Lions, Tigers, Pistons, Red Wings fan.
Sorry to disappoint you Ted, but I am a diehard Packers fan and probably will always be! |
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IC-RE
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 12/08/2004 : 3:56:29 PM
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| Our 89-91 TC2000's have the black around the BLUE BIRD, and our 1992 have just the lettering with no black behind them, other than that the buses are identical |
bus 1980, a 2008 IC RE 300 for Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax, Virginia. |
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CrownBus1
Top Member
USA
633 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2004 : 4:06:36 PM
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WOW! That's a nice bus.
1990-96 Blue Bird All American FE, either 84 or 90 passenger capacity. |
Bus 1
1985 Crown |
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Thomas00
Top Member
USA
546 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2004 : 4:21:35 PM
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| I would say it a 89 or 90, but I think I will go with 90. Due the fact that the doghouse color was change from tan to black in the mid 90's |
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vaoverland
Advanced Member
USA
225 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 7:41:00 PM
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| In the U.S., I believe that the decision on 8 light, 4 light, or other variations was left to each state. Virginia changed to an 8 light system for the 88 model year. Many changed to 8 light earlier than 1988, and I believe that some other states are still using 4 light systems. I also thought the chrome bumpers looked exceptionally nice. |
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SchoolBusFan
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 12/09/2004 : 8:22:04 PM
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| Actuall, I think it's a 1989 or 1990 All American FE after doing some research. Look at the spacing of "B L U E B I R D" on the front. They did that after changing the front of the bus in the 1989 model. I think it's an '89. The window rail is missing in the back (like in a picture of a 1988 AA FE I saw). A 1989 All American FE is what I think this bus is!! |
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SchoolBusFan
Top Member
USA
1769 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 8:23:53 PM
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| But it's weird it has 2 panes of glass for the folding door. I've never seen that on an older bus. |
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Thomas Ford 85-16
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 12/10/2004 : 03:29:15 AM
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Originally posted by SchoolBusFan
But it's weird it has 2 panes of glass for the folding door. I've never seen that on an older bus.
The door's center bar is actually painted black. There are four pieces of glass in that door, like most buses of that time. |
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bbird66
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USA
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Posted - 12/10/2004 : 05:42:51 AM
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Here in Wis. we can have the 8 ways now BUT all eight have to be red until they pass the amber in about 7 - 8 years give us a lot of time to get rid of the older 4 ways. How come you guys "up nort" get all the chrome!! I have seen a lot of indian reservations have the chromed out ones too.
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1983WardFord
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USA
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Posted - 12/10/2004 : 2:40:29 PM
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| I thought most of the AAFEs DID have 2 panes of glass, with the center bar being attached to the inside of the door |
Due to the current economic condition, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off until further notice. |
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Thomas Ford 85-16
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 12/10/2004 : 7:05:23 PM
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Originally posted by 1983WardFord
I thought most of the AAFEs DID have 2 panes of glass, with the center bar being attached to the inside of the door
I could be wrong, but from pictures I've seen, it's actually four panes of glass. Perhaps they've made running changes to that door. 582, does that bus have four separate panes? |
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IC
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 12/10/2004 : 8:09:18 PM
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| I don't think it could be an '89. We have a few '89 AA FEs and they have those weird looking double "over-under" round headlights..... |
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BusFreak
Top Member
USA
798 Posts |
Posted - 12/11/2004 : 12:33:43 AM
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IC,
Our 89 AAFEs are the LAST of the old body style. Most 89s are of the style pictured above. |
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