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Peter
Top Member
USA
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 Posted - 06/06/2003 : 2:07:05 PM
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Minnesota handles air brakes by way of restriction, rather than endorsement. Anyone possessing a class B license who is not certified to drive air brakes has a K restriction - "drive vehicle without air brakes." I am under the impression that two things are necessary in order to drive a vehicle with air brakes: 1) a CDL class B or A; and 2) the proper endorsement or absence of restriction. I have a class B license and am certified to drive air brakes.
Last summer I rented a flatbed truck from Ryder. This was a 25,000 GVWR unit, allowing it to be a class C vehicle but it had air brakes. When I rented it, they never looked at my license or asked me about it so they didn't know that I have a class B. I think that they would have given me this truck regardless of my license type. Is this illegal for them to rent this truck to people with non commercial drivers licenses? I am also wondering if there are federal regulations dealing with air brakes or if it is all state level. How is the driving of vehicles with air brakes regulated in your state?
ooops! I forgot that breaking news is at the top now. Sorry about the misplaced topic. |
Edited by - Peter on 06/06/2003 2:08:45 PM
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gonzosbus
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 06/07/2003 : 9:45:42 PM
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It was my understanding that Rental companies like Ryder & Uhaul were exempted from the CDL Requirements along with the People who own and Drive those big Huge Rv's. Thanks to all the lobbists who didnt want to restrict people. Correct me if I am wrong, But thatas how I understood the law way back when it all started.
Armando Cuellar Madison Elem. SD #38,Phoenix Az. |
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Stevebus42
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 06/08/2003 : 06:17:33 AM
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Amrmando is correct as it was explained to me by a U Haul dealer many years ago. Now to Peter as far as I know all states handle air brakes as a removal of the brake restridtion. One of the requirements for a class A CDL is combination vehicles. In order to pass the combination vehicle drive test you have to pass the air brake test. Which goes something like this. The Examiner ask you to tell all you know about air brakes. You start out with Brake start up proceedures then he may ask you when the flag drops or the buzzer sounds.Then he will ask about this or that. He may stop you in mid sentence because you have covered the key information that demonstrates your knowlege about that particular piece of the brake system.
Ryder has both a consumer rental business and a commercial business. Rentals from the commercial side of the house require A CDL. I can go to a Ryder Terminal and rent a 10 Ton Tractor or a 10 Ton Dump truck. While Uhaul rents only small trucks with hyd brakes. |
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busmonkey
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 06/09/2003 : 10:09:04 AM
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In montana my license says class a type 1 with a passenger endorsement, doubles and triples, If I had a restriction with air brakes then it would state it on my license. It does not surprise me with uhaul because I talked to an older couple from canada who were infact driving a small semi and pulling a huge camping trailer stated they did not have to have any cdl for this set up, this does not seem right.
Another question is when I was in Los Alamitos California one guy said that they have a restriction for standard transmissions. If you had this restriction then you could only drive an automatic. I trained in an automatic but I also drive a standard. According to this guy if you lived in California then you would be restricted to only automatics. I thought these were national laws do states set up there own resrictions? |
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Thomas Ford 85-16
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USA
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Posted - 06/10/2003 : 12:47:55 PM
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busmonkey,
For the most part, the national laws are minimum guidelines for the laws. The states can either meet or exeed those. Apparently California exeeds them in that case by creating that restriction. |
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Laws about air brakes
