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second.flood
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USA
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Posted - 04/14/2014 :  11:02:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just took delivery of 3 new CE's with the Cummins.
Seems like a smooth, quiet engine. The compressor is noisy as hell though.
Is this normal? All three are the same.

Fastback
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Posted - 04/14/2014 :  11:06:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We have an ISB Cummins in a C2, yes compressor is noisy.

Why yes, the ORIGinal CHARGER is a Fastback
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slippert
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USA
383 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2014 :  11:35:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have 2-09 birds with 6.7 Cummins and compressors are noisy too...have been since new.. seems to be nature of the beast..
They run well both of my birds have 140,000 plus on them with very little down time for engine problems... pretty sure if and when we get to order new busses that is engine I want to purchase in them.. I just drove an IC demo bus salesman brought up last week, I thought it ran out well, smooth and quiet!!!!
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bwest
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United States
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Posted - 04/14/2014 :  11:58:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have bit my tongue for quite a while here but I just couldn't help myself this time. Have you driven a propane unit? They have a corner on the quite market!

Bryan
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Fastback
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Posted - 04/14/2014 :  12:13:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bwest

I have bit my tongue for quite a while here but I just couldn't help myself this time. Have you driven a propane unit? They have a corner on the quite market!



What does propane have to do with an air brake compressor?

Why yes, the ORIGinal CHARGER is a Fastback
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second.flood
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USA
364 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2014 :  2:42:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bryan,
The autogas Kool-Aid has affected your reading comprehension.
The Cummins engine is very quiet.
We all get it that you are enthusiastic about propane but your preaching is without first hand data to back it up.
I've been around long enough to see several instances of secondary fuel experiments, none have stood the test of time.
Write a thread ten years out, about more than one unit, and we'll talk.
In 20 years you might be able to say "told ya so!"
I'll be in a cabin in the woods enjoying retirement and won't hear you though....

Scott

quote:
Originally posted by bwest

I have bit my tongue for quite a while here but I just couldn't help myself this time. Have you driven a propane unit? They have a corner on the quite market!

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C.HARDY
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Posted - 04/15/2014 :  5:34:36 PM  Show Profile  Click to see C.HARDY's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I noticed too the Propane unit is not available with air brakes. Our school is looking at them but the scarse fuel sites is a concern.

"Hardybusman"
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bluebirdvision
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USA
995 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2014 :  5:47:04 PM  Show Profile  Click to see bluebirdvision's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
They are available with air brakes, I just delivered one to a school district.

Shane Kirley
New York Bus Sales Delivery Driver. (I know its not much, but its a start)


Facebook Page: Blue Bird Corporation Fans
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Edited by - bluebirdvision on 04/15/2014 5:47:19 PM
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eshover
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Posted - 04/16/2014 :  08:11:20 AM  Show Profile  Visit eshover's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes the Cummins are quiet and the compressors are noisy but the Ford V10 air compressors are also noisy. Although, you can barely hear the engine running in our BBCV V10 LP.

Not trying to steal a thread but Bryan what is your MPG and distance you can go on a tank of LP on your buses? And how many do you have?
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bwest
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United States
2319 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2014 :  09:48:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've got two units (our whole fleet is only 17). Just took delivery on the newest one a few weeks ago. Just had a trip that was 235 miles with the new one yesterday and I'm a little disappointed because it is getting about the same as the old unit which is 4.5 mpg (38 cents per mile). At that rate it should have a range of at least 350 miles. It's hard to talk propane with these guys that breath diesel fumes all day (wink, wink) but my drivers love them. If you ever get a driver in one he won't want to go back. If you want to start a new thread, I'm game. That away these guys can avoid it if they want. lol

Bryan
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second.flood
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USA
364 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2014 :  11:00:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where do you fuel your propane?
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bus a groove
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70 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2014 :  12:10:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
start a new thread im interested in propane just not fully convinced to pull the trigger yet
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Originally posted by bwest

I've got two units (our whole fleet is only 17). Just took delivery on the newest one a few weeks ago. Just had a trip that was 235 miles with the new one yesterday and I'm a little disappointed because it is getting about the same as the old unit which is 4.5 mpg (38 cents per mile). At that rate it should have a range of at least 350 miles. It's hard to talk propane with these guys that breath diesel fumes all day (wink, wink) but my drivers love them. If you ever get a driver in one he won't want to go back. If you want to start a new thread, I'm game. That away these guys can avoid it if they want. lol

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