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WayneCustom
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Posted - 10/17/2012 :  5:22:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit WayneCustom's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Lakewood Township Public Schools in NJ just took delivery of a 2014 Navistar/IC CE. According to NJ DMV website VIN is 4DRBUAAP2EB338098, with the E signifiying 2014 model year.

WayneCustom
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Posted - 10/17/2012 :  5:34:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit WayneCustom's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It should be mentioned that Lakewood, whose buses have been privatized for almost 30 years, is considering fielding its own fleet again, which would number about 75 buses.
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C.HARDY
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Posted - 10/17/2012 :  5:36:14 PM  Show Profile  Click to see C.HARDY's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Thats so stupid to call a vechicle 2014 and its not even 2013 yet. I just dont get all this anymore. Buses built in 2010 titled as 2012 and so on. Its hard to tell whats what.....

"Hardybusman"
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Thomasbus24
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Posted - 10/18/2012 :  02:58:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't see how they bus makers get away with it. I understand the reasoning to help out guys who are only allowed to run a bus under "12 years old" or whatever...but come on...when I see a bus built in 2005 that is called a 2008 on it's title...
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JRob
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Posted - 10/18/2012 :  04:01:07 AM  Show Profile  Visit JRob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It's not a matter of getting away with it. The Federal Government permits model year to be designated up to 18 months prior to actual calender year. So you could have model year 2014 showing up in June, 2012.
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Thomasbus24
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Posted - 10/18/2012 :  05:06:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sure, why not add another layer of confusion to the industry!!!
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78fordwayne
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Posted - 10/18/2012 :  09:28:18 AM  Show Profile  Visit 78fordwayne's Homepage  Send 78fordwayne an AOL message  Send 78fordwayne a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
IC released the 2014 in August. Never go by the year on the title. Always go by the 10th in the VIN. Titles can be wrong

Robert B.

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Fastback
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Posted - 10/18/2012 :  1:49:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At least in this day and age of integrated buses the body and chassis are the same model year.

Why yes, the ORIGinal CHARGER is a Fastback
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78fordwayne
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Posted - 10/18/2012 :  4:09:49 PM  Show Profile  Visit 78fordwayne's Homepage  Send 78fordwayne an AOL message  Send 78fordwayne a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastback

At least in this day and age of integrated buses the body and chassis are the same model year.


Thats a big plus
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JHOWELL1158
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Posted - 10/21/2012 :  08:16:44 AM  Show Profile  Visit JHOWELL1158's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by C.HARDY

Thats so stupid to call a vechicle 2014 and its not even 2013 yet. I just dont get all this anymore. Buses built in 2010 titled as 2012 and so on. Its hard to tell whats what.....


Not really. Each county has its own numbering system to figure out the year. Well, at least I know KY does. I kind of get what you're saying, but you think they should release it in 2014? Some of the ICs below the year of 2014 have problems. They released them a couple of years before the year so the district doesn't have to wait for new buses.
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Jake
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Posted - 10/22/2012 :  05:12:33 AM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JHOWELL1158

quote:
Originally posted by C.HARDY

Thats so stupid to call a vechicle 2014 and its not even 2013 yet. I just dont get all this anymore. Buses built in 2010 titled as 2012 and so on. Its hard to tell whats what.....


Not really. Each county has its own numbering system to figure out the year. Well, at least I know KY does. I kind of get what you're saying, but you think they should release it in 2014? Some of the ICs below the year of 2014 have problems. They released them a couple of years before the year so the district doesn't have to wait for new buses.



Actually there are only a handful of counties in Kentucky that number buses based on year. It's not always 100% accurate either, I've found a few mistakes over time. Districts get to choose what numbers their buses have. In other states, it's pretty much the same way. I believe there are a few states though where the state issues numbers (like NC and SC), but their fleets are state owned, rather than district owned.


School Bus Web Discussion Forums: http://schoolbusweb.proboards.com/

Edited by - Jake on 10/22/2012 05:13:04 AM
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C2FAN
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Posted - 10/25/2012 :  05:10:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A good rule of thumb is to just go by the date of manufacture. This Is required on the data tag inside the bus, usually on the front bulkhead. I think IC is ahead of BB and Thomas, I don't think either of them are into the 2014 MY yet.
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78fordwayne
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Posted - 10/25/2012 :  09:48:41 AM  Show Profile  Visit 78fordwayne's Homepage  Send 78fordwayne an AOL message  Send 78fordwayne a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
You cant tell the year of the bus by the date of manufacture. The 10th of the VIN is the only way.
Ford and GM chassis buses just got into the 2013 model year this month. While the big 3 are in the 2014 year now. Both will have the same date of manufacture

Robert B.


Edited by - 78fordwayne on 10/25/2012 09:52:37 AM
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Thomasbus24
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Posted - 10/25/2012 :  11:26:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My new AAFE was completed today...wonder if it will be a 2014????
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WayneCustom
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Posted - 10/25/2012 :  3:09:45 PM  Show Profile  Visit WayneCustom's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Saaay.. speaking of 2014 buses, I'm surprised I haven't seen pics of the new Blue Bird All-American for 2014 from the NAPT. I'm sure someone got pictures.... anyone?
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1983WardFord
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Posted - 10/27/2012 :  5:26:44 PM  Show Profile  Send 1983WardFord an AOL message  Send 1983WardFord a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WayneCustom

Saaay.. speaking of 2014 buses, I'm surprised I haven't seen pics of the new Blue Bird All-American for 2014 from the NAPT. I'm sure someone got pictures.... anyone?



check out Blue Bird's site...

Go here:
http://www.blue-bird.com/product.aspx?category=school&item=All%20American%20Forward%20Engine
and click on the literature button.

Due to the current economic condition, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off until further notice.

Edited by - 1983WardFord on 10/27/2012 5:27:31 PM
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Thomasbus24
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Posted - 10/29/2012 :  03:30:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dang, they really bostered the standard equipment. 11R22.5's and 240 amp alternators standard now. Power door too! (I'd upgrade from electric to air though)

Edited by - Thomasbus24 on 10/29/2012 03:31:33 AM
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C.HARDY
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Posted - 11/08/2012 :  5:57:32 PM  Show Profile  Click to see C.HARDY's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I still say if its built in 2012 it should be a 2012 model vehicle.

"Hardybusman"
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CNGHDX#3070
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Posted - 11/08/2012 :  8:25:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit CNGHDX#3070's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well, my bus is a 2013 Thomas CNG powered HDX according to the VIN. But the title says it's a 2012. I think it has a lot to do with the parts and when the bus is actually completed.

3070N is my bus number and the N stands for Compressed Natural Gas.....
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Jake
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Posted - 11/09/2012 :  07:55:29 AM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I would go by the VIN number instead of the title.

quote:
Originally posted by 78fordwayne

IC released the 2014 in August. Never go by the year on the title. Always go by the 10th in the VIN. Titles can be wrong
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Thomasbus24
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Posted - 11/11/2012 :  3:53:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The verdict is in. It is a 2014. This bugs me...oh well.
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08 Thomas EF
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Posted - 11/12/2012 :  09:29:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit 08 Thomas EF's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wouldn't it be nice if if there were no model year and it was simply based off date of manufacture? Have all the new models and updates come out on January 1st and continue production until December 31st, I say.

We got our '08 model year Thomas EFs in September 2007. Then, by December, they switched to '09.

Edited by - 08 Thomas EF on 11/12/2012 09:31:05 AM
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