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ThomasC2
Top Member
United States
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 Posted - 07/26/2007 : 2:07:40 PM
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| Hey, I know that there are some guys that wanted a Diecast Blue Bird Vision, well i am trying to get that to happen, i emailed Blue Bird and told them that i wanted them to make a Vision model and they emailed me back saying that they need more info, so i gave it to them, they sent it to some manufacturers and we're waiting for replies. I give you a site when they reply. |
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Iluvskool
Senior Member
United States
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Posted - 07/26/2007 : 2:19:38 PM
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| How did you accomplish that? I emailed them twice and they never replied. If they make a 1:53 version of that model, I might have to go broke ordering a fleet of them! |
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ThomasC2
Top Member
United States
650 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2007 : 2:59:03 PM
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I don't know but they just now told me that they will sell them 2500 at a time for $1500 to $12,000, if you want to order them one at a time help me email him at jbhatlanta@aol.com please.
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Cody
Top Member
United States
1630 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2007 : 8:20:49 PM
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Originally posted by 08BBVision
$1500 to $12,000
Wow I don't think anybody is going to want to buy those... you could buy a real bus for that price and even have some leftover to pimp it out |
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Iluvskool
Senior Member
United States
53 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2007 : 10:00:00 PM
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| Maybe Wheels, Wings, and Other Things will buy them in bulk and sell them individually on their website. |
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ThomasC2
Top Member
United States
650 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2007 : 10:23:09 PM
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thank you for the idea, have you tried emailing them and asking?
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ThomasC2
Top Member
United States
650 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2007 : 10:37:19 PM
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| I just emailed schoolbusgifts.com about the Vision models, i will tell you when i get a reply. |
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ThomasC2
Top Member
United States
650 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2007 : 11:44:25 PM
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| If anybody really wants a diecast Blue Bird Vision then it would help if you emailed schoolbusgifts.com telling them to email jbhatlanta@aol.com to buy the Blue Birds in bulk and sell them one by one. |
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ThomasC2
Top Member
United States
650 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2007 : 11:46:30 PM
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Or School Bus Fleet could buy them in bulk and sell them one by one like the Saf-T-Liner C2 |
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Iluvskool
Senior Member
United States
53 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2007 : 07:10:11 AM
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Originally posted by 08BBVision
thank you for the idea, have you tried emailing them and asking?
Splitrimz is the man behind Wheel, Wings, and Other Things, and School Bus Gifts. Maybe he will read this post. Right now, I can't email him, because Hotmail is down. |
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splitrimz
Senior Member
USA
176 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2007 : 07:41:44 AM
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Hello All.. Here is the Math: Assuming about mid range on that post.
$6,000 cost of die.
$75,000 2500 buses @ $30.00 paid to manuf.
Total $81,000 not counting shipping from China.
I would have to sell 2500 visions at $50.00 each to recoup my total original outlay. Selling 2500 visions at that price won't happen, high price buses move very slowly. I'm sure B&B did these numbers and decided against it.
There is also a big risk in importing. If the production is flawed, not the sample but the production, of the 2500 units, China won't take them back and they already have your money. I'm sure IC didn't really like the IC519 but that's the way it turned out.
ADDED: Another cost that I have not seen mentioned. The licensing fee per unit that Blue Bird would require. That is another big uptic.
Splitrimz
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Edited by - splitrimz on 07/27/2007 2:58:55 PM |
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ThomasC2
Top Member
United States
650 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2007 : 09:51:25 AM
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| I would buy one, maybe some other guys will too. |
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ThomasC2
Top Member
United States
650 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2007 : 10:26:57 AM
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If you have a picture of what the bus looks like could you put it on here please?
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ThomasC2
Top Member
United States
650 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2007 : 10:31:14 AM
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There is also a big risk in importing. If the production is flawed, not the sample but the production, of the 2500 units, China won't take them back and they already have your money. I'm sure IC didn't really like the IC519 but that's the way it turned out.
Maybe it will turn out like the Thomas Saf-T-Liner C2 model, it was good.
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Carp_26
Administrator
United States
170 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2007 : 11:12:54 AM
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| I e-mailed Blue-Bird in 2004 about this same issue. Jay McDuffie (I think that was his name) sent me several e-mails that they were in fact making Diecast replicas of the AA, Vision, Microbird, etc. That's been nearly 3 years ago. I'll believe it when I see one for sale. |
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ThomasC2
Top Member
United States
650 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2007 : 11:52:29 AM
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| I wish we could get Splitrimz to buy the Visions, who knows if he lowered the price to like $30.00 he could make quite a bit of $$$. |
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ThomasC2
Top Member
United States
650 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2007 : 1:04:23 PM
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| I have another idea, School Bus Fleet can buy the Visions and sell them. |
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Busdude3
Top Member
USA
1178 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2007 : 1:19:50 PM
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| Is it that big of a deal to have these sold? |
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ThomasC2
Top Member
United States
650 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2007 : 1:25:43 PM
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Is it that big of a deal to have these sold?
To me it is, its my favorite bus and i want a model of it, why do you want to know? |
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Jake
Top Member
USA
3527 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2007 : 2:26:54 PM
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Originally posted by Busdude3
Is it that big of a deal to have these sold?
Ryan, at least Blue Bird now has a idea about selling Vision models.
Anyway, I think its a good idea. Lots of school bus model collectors will love it.
-Jake |
Yellow & Black
A new forum community dedicated to school bus driving, operations, maintenance and enthusiasts!
Come join the discussion! |
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Iluvskool
Senior Member
United States
53 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2007 : 3:14:47 PM
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Originally posted by 92WardSenatorFE
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Originally posted by Busdude3
Is it that big of a deal to have these sold?
Ryan, at least Blue Bird now has a idea about selling Vision models.
Anyway, I think its a good idea. Lots of school bus model collectors will love it.
-Jake
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Edited by - Iluvskool on 07/27/2007 3:15:13 PM |
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splitrimz
Senior Member
USA
176 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2007 : 5:25:43 PM
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It seems to me that some minor front end customization (Grill and bumper) on the Boley CE would come close. I don't have a photo of the rear. What do the experts think?
Splitrimz |
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Iluvskool
Senior Member
United States
53 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2007 : 6:33:46 PM
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| Well, I emailed this Blue Bird guy yesterday, and still haven't received a reply. |
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ThomasC2
Top Member
United States
650 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2007 : 7:03:21 PM
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--originally posted by splitrimz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It seems to me that some minor front end customization (Grill and bumper) on the Boley CE would come close. I don't have a photo of the rear. What do the experts think?
I don't know, it's not big enough, and how would you get the Vision Safty View window, i just think it would be cool if they could make it like the Thomas C2 with interior. |
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ThomasC2
Top Member
United States
650 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2007 : 7:52:49 PM
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But who is going to buy that many and sell them?
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ThomasC2
Top Member
United States
650 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2007 : 09:29:23 AM
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originally posted by theFirstStudentguy
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Like some people said, School Bus gifts.Com, Blue-Bird Gear, Wheels Wings and Other Things, Diecast Direct.Com. Someone of that group many decide to do it.
But can any body get any of those sites to buy them? |
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ThomasC2
Top Member
United States
650 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2007 : 09:51:51 AM
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| I emailed Diecast Direct.com and asked them if they will buy them, i am waiting for a reply. |
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ThomasC2
Top Member
United States
650 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2007 : 8:51:10 PM
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| I haven't gotton any replies from diecast direct.com, but i really could use your help, can you guys help me email some people to convince them to buy the models and resell them? (maybe if we bug them enough they will) |
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splitrimz
Senior Member
USA
176 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2007 : 07:41:27 AM
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Originally posted by the First Student guy
I have emailed and they have not replied to mine either!
I have another suggestion that might get you to your goal. If not it would be a great learning experience.
Develop a business plan to achieve your goal.
1. Develop your specifications and drawings of the model.
2. Get a quote for that exact specification from a manufacturer.
3. Determine how many you want the manufacturer to build.
4. Determine your selling price based on the quote and other added costs like license fees, shipping, stocking, profit etc.
5. Based on that selling price, conduct a poll to see how many buyers are interested in that model at that price. If the number of interest justifies the cash outlay proceed.
6. Write it all up in a "Business Plan" and take it to your local bank for a small business application.
If you follow this path you will begin to understand the economics of the effort. It would also be a great experience you could draw on for some of those college projects you are going to encounter. You will be well prepared. Sincerely, Splitrimz |
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Cody
Top Member
United States
1630 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2007 : 08:08:59 AM
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Originally posted by the First Student guy
I have emailed and they have not replied to mine either!
It's the weekend... I'm sure they are enjoying their time with their family. I doubt an email from 5 people is going to convince them to but 2500 model buses... how would they know if they are going to sell them all? What if just those 5 people that emailed them bought them? then they might as well consider themselves out of a lot of cash. |
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ThomasC2
Top Member
United States
650 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2007 : 10:00:39 AM
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| Oh who knows, there might be a lot of school bus collectors that arent in the SBF forums that will buy them, and around the world. |
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Busdude3
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 07/29/2007 : 4:30:45 PM
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| Nope, I don't think so at all. Actually I do know so. I know I'm not buying one for a high price, so that leaves me out. |
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Jake
Top Member
USA
3527 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2007 : 5:00:01 PM
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Originally posted by Busdude3
Nope, I don't think so at all. Actually I do know so. I know I'm not buying one for a high price, so that leaves me out.
That is true. If its over about $20 bucks, you can forget it from me.
-Jake |
Yellow & Black
A new forum community dedicated to school bus driving, operations, maintenance and enthusiasts!
Come join the discussion! |
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Iluvskool
Senior Member
United States
53 Posts |
Posted - 08/03/2007 : 09:37:06 AM
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| So what is the latest on this? |
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Lifestar Fe
Top Member
United States
521 Posts |
Posted - 08/03/2007 : 1:16:02 PM
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| an 08 vision model would be so cool. I would buy it on any scale if it was under 30 bucks, but i would prefer 1/87 to go with my other models. |
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Kodie
Top Member
United States
2028 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2007 : 3:19:02 PM
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can we first start with a picture?
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Diecast Blue Bird Vision
