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deleon
Senior Member
USA
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 Posted - 10/10/2005 : 5:30:47 PM
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My bus stop sign waves when it gose out. can any one help helpme out?  |
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magstan2
Active Member
USA
44 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2005 : 6:15:51 PM
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| I believe your weldon flasher unit is faulty. Mike |
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deleon
Senior Member
USA
133 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2005 : 02:37:34 AM
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| but we have ELS 8way flasher |
DeLeon Anderson
bus 20 |
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JC Theriault
Top Member
Canada
1326 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2005 : 05:09:39 AM
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| Don't waste your time magstan1 - deleon is 14 years old and not a driver or mechanic. |
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CISDbusman
Advanced Member
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Posted - 10/11/2005 : 07:21:48 AM
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Its a legit question and even if he is 14 he may still be a passenger on a unsafe bus and we should try to help for his sake and the other passengers.
I have a 96 bluebird that did the same thing intermitantly. After much head scratching I found a short to ground in a wire (crk 73) for the front reds (iirc). Where the upper front body panel (one with lights in it) attached, the body builders had drilled through the wire insulation in a about 10 different places. I kept that piece of wire for the longest hoping a BB rep would stop in and I could tell him how much misery that had dealt me.
The stop sign bulbs are not a common bulb on a school bus, so if either have been replaced with the wrong one it might cause the flip-flop also??
Wish your driver or fleet mechanic luck with this one, as electrical problems seperate the techs from the nut twisters. :-) |
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bbird66
Top Member
USA
881 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2005 : 08:28:33 AM
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| Its in the clutch unit of the drive itself. Wore out, Or could be one of the top two micro switches they "feel" off of the cam (to tell it where it is so to speak 90 degrees out or parked.) that is out of adustment. Most of the time its the Plastic clutch though. I think hes talking about it "occilating" back and forth. I have also seen the top nut on the arm itself loose, tighten it up and will take care of it also. |
Were gonna miss you "Brent"..Good luck in "Heidi land"
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"On a two hour delay when will my child be picked up??"
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deleon
Senior Member
USA
133 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2005 : 2:03:26 PM
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magstan1,cisdbusman,bbrid66 thank you for your input.unlike jc theriault who all was got to put someone down.
and p.s. jc theriault i am not 14 i am 16
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DeLeon Anderson
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JC Theriault
Top Member
Canada
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Posted - 10/11/2005 : 3:43:53 PM
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I'm not trying to put down anyone but if he's concerned about the safety of the bus on which he rides then he should call his transportation provider. As for the age issue, change your profile as it still says 14 so you can't blame me for getting it wrong.
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amtran110
Active Member
USA
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Posted - 10/11/2005 : 6:57:53 PM
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Don't waste your time magstan1 - deleon is 14 years old and not a driver or mechanic.
just because we dont drive the bus dose not mean we no nothing about them |
All i want is a 2006 IC with air every thing. Just an every day bus fanatic |
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ThomasER0005
Top Member
USA
576 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2005 : 10:16:04 PM
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| They have a right to be on here and post on here, maybe their wanting to learn some information about buses and have a few questions to ask. I don't see no harm in that just as long as they aint like some members of the past and flooded the forums with nonsense. |
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JC Theriault
Top Member
Canada
1326 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2005 : 10:41:28 PM
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Geez - I already replied in regards to my strongly worded post and some people can't drop the matter. I'll say it again - if he has perceived safety issues with his transportation provider then he should be in touch with the school district's transportation department or the contractor operating a contracted bus.
I've never said he or others like him aren't welcome but lets face it - the mechanics at the garage who look after the bus he rides on know how to repair the buses and his getting the answers to the question won't get his bus fixed as 1). He can't fix the bus himself & 2). Passing the answers onto his bus driver won't get it fixed any faster as most fleet frown on drivers doing their own electrical maintenance.
So I stand by my suggestion that he call whomever is responsable for the school bus he rides on if he feels the bus has a safety defect.
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tav1564
New Member
USA
2 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2005 : 07:21:15 AM
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If the stop sign is a 5-series serial #480380 to 627609 there is a recall to repair this problem. The micro switches are defective and
Specialty Manufacturing will send you a repair module # SMC 5151
free of charge. I have also purchased these modules to repair earlier
model stop sighns. They work quite well. the web address is
www.specmfg.com
Good luck,Tom (Bus Mechanic) |
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rswboe
Top Member
USA
675 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2005 : 09:42:40 AM
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| You're (JC) right about the kid having someone (a parent or concerned adult) call the transportation department about the bus issue, but in his defense, we rarely take those calls with much more than a grain of salt. We found in 90% of those calls, there is an alterior motive, sometimes directed at the driver, sometimes at the school administration.If the kid, or any kid, has a serious question, is curious, or really just has a general interest, I don't see the harm in asking. There have been cases here where it seemed the only purpose of the questioner was to annoy & disrupt the forum, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. |
Live each like it's going to be your last, one day you'll be right! |
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JC Theriault
Top Member
Canada
1326 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2005 : 4:40:04 PM
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I agree rswboe - I kinda jumped the gun in replying before thinking the whole reason for the curiosity re. the stop sign.
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Mechan1c
Top Member
USA
853 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2005 : 10:45:11 PM
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| tav has it right...change the micro-switches with all the corrosion on them. Then seal up the Specialty Manufacturing unit so water doesn't get in. Make sure the heater is hooked up. Write down the SN# and send them the numbers for reimbersment for all the work. I've done 50+ so far...uggg. Not a bit of help. |
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ooms7j
Senior Member
USA
154 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2005 : 1:09:00 PM
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I am a 17 year old and a qualified Emergency School bus associate(and yes I have gotten out of classes to go to driver and safty meetings), In the case of an accident where the driver is nonresponsive I am the responsible person for making shure the corperation is notified and that the bus be evacuated. So JC maybe he is in somewhat of that situation> I ask Questions For my driver and school employees all the time so I don't see the harm!!! And for the record I think it is a good thing for a student to know about the bus he rides every day to school!!!! |
Emergency situations are my responsibility, Drive Safe, ooms7j
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Weldon-Eng
New Member
USA
1 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2005 : 06:16:29 AM
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| Here is a simple test for a flopping Stop Arm. Remove the wire from the Stop Arm terminal of the flasher (pin 5 on the Weldon 7000). Use a test light or small bulb and connect one end to ground and the other to the Stop Arm output of the flasher. Activate the Red warning lights. The bulb should stay on w/o flashing. If it is flashing check that the left and right Red warnings are flashing. If one is off check for a short or overload on that circuit. If both flash okay and the Stop Arm output is flashing then the flasher is bad. If it only flops when the Stop Arm is connected then the flasher is overloaded, add a relay to power the stop arm. |
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Mechan1c
Top Member
USA
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Wolf0r
Top Member
USA
2181 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2005 : 8:51:50 PM
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I agree with Mechan1c. The retrofit offered by specialty is the way to go. That is if your trouble is inside the unit.
I have installed several of these under warranty. Most Bluebird dealers carry them instock under $30 I won't be standing out in freezing weather replacing frozen/stuck microswitches ever again. |
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.”
Neil deGrasse Tyson |
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wgloff
Senior Member
USA
54 Posts |
Posted - 11/23/2005 : 11:57:59 AM
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| The plastic clutch is the worn part you will need to replace. Do that retrofit also and you troubles should be gone. |
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IC RE 1629
Top Member
United States
5097 Posts |
Posted - 11/23/2005 : 1:02:09 PM
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While on the issue of stop arms, I have a question for you all.
My favorite bus (1629, 2004 IC RE 200), has this issue where the stop arm will go about 9/10 of the way in and it stops. You can hear the motor making that whining (sp?) noise. It sounds as if someone is holding the stop arm and keeping it from going all the way in. Also note that while it is doing this, the strobing lights continue to flash. Why would this be happening? |
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IC-RE
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 11/23/2005 : 1:28:26 PM
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| All of our 04 IC RE's have the weird stop arm where they strobe until it SLAMS into the side of the bus, 10 seconds later. |
 bus 1980, a 2008 IC RE 300 for Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax, Virginia. |
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Sonnym
Active Member
USA
28 Posts |
Posted - 12/22/2005 : 05:41:52 AM
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There is a safety recall on these arms, the Series 5. Contact Speciality and they will be glad to provide help. You can peruse all recalls of NHTSA.dot.gov.
Have a safe and happy Holiday to all. |
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mlkdrives41
Top Member
USA
2055 Posts |
Posted - 12/22/2005 : 10:37:46 AM
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My IC CE will put out the back stop sign and then ten seconds later the front one. Then when I close the door (switches on the steering wheel) sometimes the stop signs stay out and all the lights stay lit and sometimes they don't.
Now..the door doesn't want to close sometimes. AARGH! |
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dem84skeeprollinup
Top Member
USA
888 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2006 : 7:57:49 PM
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If the new ic's are anything like the thomas C2's there could be a problem in the software that can cause a delay, or rhe 8ways will not shut off at all. As for the rear stoparm, it will close slower for many reasons. On the IC's at our corp, I think the front stoparm is air powered and the rear is electric powered. This can cause a difference in time of closure.quote:
Originally posted by mlkdrives41
My IC CE will put out the back stop sign and then ten seconds later the front one. Then when I close the door (switches on the steering wheel) sometimes the stop signs stay out and all the lights stay lit and sometimes they don't.
Now..the door doesn't want to close sometimes. AARGH!
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Do the world a favor and bring back GMC and Ford conventional chassis......
 
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