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Sandra (Ennis) Nunn
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 Posted - 10/05/2005 : 09:26:17 AM
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October 5, 2005 - London Free Press, ON, Canada - HOUGHTON -- Police arrested a Western Ontario school bus driver in front of the public school here last week and charged her with having a blood-alcohol content more than twice the legal limit.
Acting on a tip from the public, Norfolk OPP and the bus line manager were waiting when the bus arrived for afternoon pickup at 2:50 p.m. last Tuesday. No students were aboard.
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coolbusdriver
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Canada
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Posted - 10/05/2005 : 10:25:12 AM
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DanLJ
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USA
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Posted - 10/05/2005 : 2:04:30 PM
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Let's see now, using the "nobody was hurt" line of reasoning perhaps this driver should be put in rehab, collect disability while not working, and be returned to the job with adequate supervision until such time as she regains her "lost trust."
As it is probably the fault of the dysfunctional school district who won't give their drivers any support the driver should also perhaps consider filing suit against the district for not properly training her, specifically in regards to not being under the influence prior to operating a school bus.
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mlkdrives41
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USA
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Posted - 10/05/2005 : 3:05:34 PM
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amtran110
Active Member
USA
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Posted - 10/05/2005 : 3:32:56 PM
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if she was over the limit i think she should be fired. people could have goten hert. she needs to go
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bigbus9807
Active Member
USA
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Posted - 10/05/2005 : 4:17:12 PM
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| She chose to drink knowing she had to transport children on her bus.I have no sympathy for her at all.She could have killed everyone on her bus and anyone who was unfortunate enough to be on the road with her.Zero tolerance is the only way to deal with someone like that.I'm glad she was arrested ,she should lose her license too. |
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DanLJ
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 10/05/2005 : 4:56:35 PM
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Of course I agree with all of you about what should be done with this driver.
But . . . I'm just trying to figure out JK's "nobody was injured" reasoning and his blanket "dysfunctional" school district point of view where everything is ultimately the fault of the system.
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JK
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USA
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Posted - 10/05/2005 : 5:32:13 PM
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Originally posted by DanLJ
Let's see now, using the "nobody was hurt" line of reasoning perhaps this driver should be put in rehab, collect disability while not working, and be returned to the job with adequate supervision until such time as she regains her "lost trust."
As it is probably the fault of the dysfunctional school district who won't give their drivers any support the driver should also perhaps consider filing suit against the district for not properly training her, specifically in regards to not being under the influence prior to operating a school bus.
How am I doing JK - am I getting the hang of this yet?
Your use of my positions, although flattering, is too sarcastic to take seriously. Regardless, to answer your question, Yes-No, you got the concept, simply miss applied it this time in my opinion. Alcohol abuse in the situation presented in this thread's story, and drug abuse, has no defense from me. Congratulations are in order. You found a school bus driver I would choose not to defend. Can you find others? (jk)
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thomas86_a
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USA
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Posted - 10/05/2005 : 7:11:15 PM
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She claims she was drinking the night before and felt normal that day. She was arrested at 2:50 pm and police say she was twice the legal limit. Seems odd to me, either she had a hell of a lot to drink that night or they need to go back and search that bus for empty beer cans!
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DanLJ
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USA
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Posted - 10/06/2005 : 3:12:04 PM
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Originally posted by JK
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Originally posted by DanLJ
Let's see now, using the "nobody was hurt" line of reasoning perhaps this driver should be put in rehab, collect disability while not working, and be returned to the job with adequate supervision until such time as she regains her "lost trust."
As it is probably the fault of the dysfunctional school district who won't give their drivers any support the driver should also perhaps consider filing suit against the district for not properly training her, specifically in regards to not being under the influence prior to operating a school bus.
How am I doing JK - am I getting the hang of this yet?
Your use of my positions, although flattering, is too sarcastic to take seriously. Regardless, to answer your question, Yes-No, you got the concept, simply miss applied it this time in my opinion. Alcohol abuse in the situation presented in this thread's story, and drug abuse, has no defense from me. Congratulations are in order. You found a school bus driver I would choose not to defend. Can you find others? (jk)
Of course it was tongue-in-cheek JK, and never meant to be taken seriously. The intent was to vividly illustrate the ludicrous proposition that dismissal of a driver should be tied to the existence of an injury, as you propose in the thread on the most recent child being left on a bus.
As I said in the other thread, retaining an employee until somebody is hurt is neither reasonable or logical.
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JC Theriault
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Canada
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Posted - 10/06/2005 : 4:39:10 PM
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Hate to say it but DanLJ sounds like one of those co-workers who would run into the managers office to squeal on a driver who activated their turn signal 10 feet short of what is legally required. Ease up a bit, a driver who has made an error, something non-life threatening, can usually be retrained to hold a much higher work ethic than before his/her incident.
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DanLJ
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 10/06/2005 : 4:58:04 PM
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Originally posted by JC Theriault
Hate to say it but DanLJ sounds like one of those co-workers who would run into the managers office to squeal on a driver who activated their turn signal 10 feet short of what is legally required. Ease up a bit, a driver who has made an error, something non-life threatening, can usually be retrained to hold a much higher work ethic than before his/her incident.
JC Theriault
Sorry JC, you're wrong. When relatively insignificant and non-threatening things occur then your approach is magnificently sound. I've seen it used successfully many, many times.
The conversation is in the context of the other thread where a special needs child was left on a bus for three hours, strapped into a car-seat and the driver didn't check the bus. Then admitted to not checking the bus even though he knew and understood the reason for checking said bus.
The proposition that this driver should be retained simply because nobody was injured is completely ludicrous. JK set that standard, not me. I am merely illustrating the folly of it.
The absence of injury in no way reflects on the potential for life-threatening injuries. More often than not the absence of injury is due to extraordinarily good luck despite some very serious infractions of safety procedures. |
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JK
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USA
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Posted - 10/06/2005 : 9:58:20 PM
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Originally posted by DanLJ
... I am elated that this driver was caught and sincerely hope that the driver was summarily dismissed for cause.
Yet, another nice try?
Why are you elated? The event in this thread is genuinely dangerous, and sad it was not caught sooner. I find no joy in in a fellow's poor judgment or celebration because of that poor judgment - only measuring the event and dealing with it as best and appropriate for all involved.
A misapplication of a valid concept demonstrates nothing about any event compared to another event. Out ridiculousing the ridiculous does have merit, but simply does not seem to make your attempted point this time, as mentioned by JC Theriault.
Continually attempting to personalize a debate does tend to discredit your position. The good news, in my opinion, is the concept for some situations I presented is now stuck in your head. Your actual good character and logical appreciations can do the rest. Good luck and have a nice day. (jk)
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news
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Canada
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Posted - 06/28/2006 : 04:17:17 AM
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School bus driver gets house arrest
Wed, June 28, 2006 - London Free Press, Canada - SIMCOE -- A school bus driver who had twice the legal limit of alcohol in her blood was given a conditional jail sentence yesterday of 30 days to be spent under house arrest. Justice Brian Stead granted her a conditional sentence in custody to be served in her rural home. She is not to be outside her residence except to obtain the necessities of life. She was also prohibited from driving for one year.
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IC
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USA
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Posted - 06/28/2006 : 08:50:26 AM
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When I saw the title of this thread, I thought a school bus pulled up to a castle to pick up a little duke or duchess....and the Count came out drunk and got into it with the driver.
Anyhoo, she got what she deserved! |
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