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bobsbud22
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USA
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Posted - 07/30/2006 :  09:28:27 AM  Show Profile  Visit bobsbud22's Homepage  Reply with Quote
should our school replace busses mid school year, if a certain bus is giving our mechanics huge headaches, and is allmost lacking enough power to fufill its daily route, is it really worth the mounding upkeep fees? Question 2: should our school retire a bus much earlier than planned, and with low mileage, just because it is running poorly, this bus is a 1995 were considering retireing now, when we still have 1991 running good. I think 1995's were not a good year. someone give me some imput.

78fordwayne
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USA
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Posted - 07/30/2006 :  09:35:33 AM  Show Profile  Visit 78fordwayne's Homepage  Send 78fordwayne an AOL message  Send 78fordwayne a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
The grade school by me replaced there odd ball 92 Ford / Blue Bird when they still had 89 TC2000s and 91 International / Blue Birds.

The Ford was giving them problems with the lucas brake system
If they kept the bus they would have had to redue the entire brake system including replacing the whole rear assemblies.

To me it makes sence if the bus is going to cost to much to repair, then ship it out.

Robert B.

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bobsbud22
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USA
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Posted - 07/30/2006 :  09:41:18 AM  Show Profile  Visit bobsbud22's Homepage  Reply with Quote
yes i think you are right, but we wanted a second opinion. also i think the ford you commented about ,we own two 92' ford carpenters with the same problems, i think it was a common problem.

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78fordwayne
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Posted - 07/30/2006 :  09:42:56 AM  Show Profile  Visit 78fordwayne's Homepage  Send 78fordwayne an AOL message  Send 78fordwayne a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.schoolbusland.com/blue/17988.htm

This is the bus after it was sold.
Probably the best looking bus in there fleet to.
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bobsbud22
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USA
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Posted - 07/30/2006 :  09:49:05 AM  Show Profile  Visit bobsbud22's Homepage  Reply with Quote
teh ones we have were good looking for their age too, but arent safe with said problems.

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bus724
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Posted - 07/30/2006 :  10:38:32 AM  Show Profile  Visit bus724's Homepage  Send bus724 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I know it's not quite the same, but look at what CTTransit did in the 80s... They bought the first batch of Grumman 870s, which if you know anything about transits were a huge disaster. They realized they were losing money by keeping them on the road, and decided it would actually be cheaper, once their new order of 1983 GM Fishbowls came in, to park most of the Grummans, still making payments on them for 8 years (but at least not paying for insurance or maintenance).

If a bus is giving you a headache, then cut your losses and let it go. Don't worry about selling a newer bus and keeping and older one, fleets do that all the time.
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78fordwayne
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Posted - 07/30/2006 :  10:59:10 AM  Show Profile  Visit 78fordwayne's Homepage  Send 78fordwayne an AOL message  Send 78fordwayne a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Just think you might even get more money selling the newer bus over an older one.
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bobsbud22
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Posted - 07/31/2006 :  09:19:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit bobsbud22's Homepage  Reply with Quote
thanks. but i dont know how much this newer bus worth, it has some damage from a minor accident, the one driver had backed into the garage a bit too far, and hit the back wall. so it has some damage on it, and it is farily rusty, and the interior leaks fairly bad. you could likely gat more out of this bus for scrap value.

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bobsbud22
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USA
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Posted - 07/31/2006 :  09:23:45 AM  Show Profile  Visit bobsbud22's Homepage  Reply with Quote
also the bus i was commenting on had some major transmission problems, it was stuggling to shift between second and third gear.

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