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BusBoy 1
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Posted - 02/20/2005 :  12:46:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was just wondering what some of the new buses were getting for fuel mileage with different engines our newest bus is a 2000 model and we avg around 8 with that have they improved any?

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Posted - 02/20/2005 :  1:13:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit Cody's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Our new 2005 Visions with the C7 get around 6-8 MPG.
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Posted - 02/20/2005 :  8:53:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit ModMech's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Oh our fleet ranges from 3.5 to about 8 MPG, as much as 10 MPG on all highway trips (Like fron Conway AR to MN).

If you want customer service, you NEED an International!
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Mr. Lee A. Amos
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Posted - 02/21/2005 :  09:50:12 AM  Show Profile  Visit Mr. Lee A. Amos's Homepage  Reply with Quote

I have found that this product below can dramatically help improve
MPG in school buses that use diesel fuel or biodiesel. I know a fellow
that has tested it on 4 buses and says that they have gotten anywhere
from 10 to 15% increase on MPG. You wouldn't believe a simple test
they do to show you the good results that you can get. Kids don't
have to worry about walking to their buses and smelling diesel fumes
either. Say they have been using it in Texas for about 9 years now.
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Posted - 02/21/2005 :  1:40:48 PM  Show Profile  Click to see kd4jfd's MSN Messenger address  Send kd4jfd a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
If I did my math correctly, it's about $1/oz., for that increase of 10-15. Is it really worth it?

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Posted - 02/21/2005 :  1:52:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think you did it somebody always has the best stuff...sorry but even those bottles look like snake oil bottles.

Otherwise our 466e's are getting 7.2 consistantly and the one cummins ISB I have runs 9 mpg all the time.

Were gonna miss you "Brent"..Good luck in "Heidi land"

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Edited by - bbird66 on 02/21/2005 1:53:34 PM
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Brad Barker

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Posted - 02/22/2005 :  11:31:33 AM  Show Profile  Click to see Brad Barker's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Just a thought, how much engine idling do you see. Lower fuel mileage will be the result of higher idle times.

Brad A. Barker
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Mr. Lee A. Amos
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Posted - 02/22/2005 :  11:42:26 AM  Show Profile  Visit Mr. Lee A. Amos's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I understand the skepticism about the product. Johnny Rutherford
did not believe his brother Wayne either and took a few years before
he would even try the product. And Johnny is a 3 times Indi 500 winner
and the only other product that he promotes is Pennzoil. He now endorses this one.

Below are the savings using the product with 1oz. for every
10 gallons of diesel fuel. In the beginning of using the product,
1oz. for every 5 gallons. If you came to me and told me that this
product could save the amount of money below and I was an open minded
individual and that in the 9 years of the use of this product has
not damaged any engine whatsoever, and that you would allow me to
test it with no cost out of pocket I would sure give it a try.

There is a saying that the proof is in the pudding.

Projected Savings Estimate

Fuel Consumption = ~ 35,000 gallons/month

Fuel Costs = (1.70/gallon) ~ $60,000

15% increase in MPG = $9,000 savings/month

20% increase in MPG = $12,000 savings/month
(A Large percentage will average 20% savings)

25% increase in MPG = $15,000 savings/month
True Net Savings

55 Gallon Drum treats 70,000 Gallons:

1 Drum every 2 months - Cost ~ $6000/2 months or ($3000/month)

At 15% - $9,000 - $3,000 = $6,000/month

At 20% - $12,000 - $3,000 = $9,000/month
(A Large percentage will average 20% savings)

At 25% - $15,000 - $3,000 = $12,000/month

Plus decreased maintenance,
longer engine life, & better performance!
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