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Originally posted by JK

Looks like intermission has concluded. Some perhaps consumed too much sugar during the intermission.

Sorry about all those posts that came after guzaldo's post, once again denying him the last word. Such can certainly whine about that with frivolous hostile posts or just find something else to do rather than hope for a last word in any thread in these forums.

"Any bullying I see is coming from you, Peter"

A sad and unwarranted comment, and typical. And so obvious that Peter is not accepted by some here, clearly using that as an excuse to attack his fair-minded posts. All in a thread that seemed to claim just wanting their special personal rights to be accepted, a mentality that also claims the rights of the people in this country to decide at the polls does not exist.

Peter makes good enough sense to have a valid opinion, yet the so-called open minds quickly reveal a closed view at Peter and others for expressing their opinions.

The So-called, and again, 'just want understanding,' bunch come off later as hostiles that got nothing other than inventions and typical special garbage mouths toward Peter and others demonstrating over and over that a special interest agenda just can't tolerate an opposing view.

If this garbage keeps up at least some in this thread can be grateful this thread was allowed to remain a bit longer than a similar thread that went hostile and which included slanders of bigotry until adequately demonstrating having no value relevant to these forums.

Others will never be grateful for much of anything. Thus, what happens next is irrelevant to those sorts.

Sailing remains an option for some with the weather reports still indicating a red sky at night. (jk)

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - October 11, 1789, spoken by John Adams, former President of the United States of America.

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Originally posted by JK

... A similar thread? So when you asked me what thread I was refering to you had no reason to ask because you knew. Hmmm.

You said , "post," not thread.

Have a nice day. (jk)

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Originally posted by Peter

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Guzaldo presented his opinion, which may be more "in your face" others, but you attempted to shoot down his view.

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I take issue with the name-calling and the derision of folks who are simply pointing out the double standards that appear to be held by some here. Those are the sections of guzaldo's post that drew my response. If you read my posts here you'll discover that I'm calling people on their methods more than on their message. How can you demand respect from someone else if you're not willing to give it? Perhaps some people cannot separate behavior from intention in their minds. They see any criticism as an all-encompassing personal attack. I'm not writing here to hurt anyone's feelings but to point out that they may be doing just that to someone else and, worse, causing others to view someone negatively without cause.

I don't know how everyone else here replies to a post, but I only address the sections that I care to address. Note the portions of guzaldo's post to which I didn't respond. My intention from the beginning has been to highlight the inconsistencies in some members' writings. I understand why it's unpleasant to have someone point out something unjust about the way you're writing to people. I understand that it's unpleasant to have someone confront you, albeit in writing is easier to take than in person. I don't understand why someone can think no one should be able to debate an idea that they've presented. That's what we're doing, right? You take issue with something that I've written. I think that you misunderstand me and attempt to clarify and reiterate my point and now I wait to see if I've successfully communicated with you and anyone else reading along.

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Originally posted by JK

"Proof read, spell check and hostility checked"

Seems to have helped represent what a calmer post might look like. A little work remains on the name calling thing but much improved regardless of that one jab, in my opinion, not necessarily an opinion in compliance with your opinion. Your posts were most useful in the child left on bus issues. Have a nice day. (jk)

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - October 11, 1789, spoken by John Adams, former President of the United States of America.

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Originally posted by JK

"James, what are you an English teacher now?"

Nope - Just grateful for a post that demonstrated a calmer approach with fewer attacks and more context, and perhaps from someone that more adequately knows his own the history in this thread. (jk)

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Originally posted by Thomasbus24

This topic is still going on? wow

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Originally posted by PCW

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Originally posted by Thomasbus24

This topic is still going on? wow

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When you get discriminated against, it's never ending

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