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slippert
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 Posted - 09/07/2016 : 06:44:28 AM
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That probably explains the added material along the side on current (IC/IMMI/Safegaurd) seat backs.... besides adding strength it would make thickness of material more comparable without making pan too rigid quote:
Originally posted by Fastback
The opinion I heard multiple times was there was too much "heat" used welding thin metal to thick metal resulting in the thin metal becoming brittle.
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bwest
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Posted - 09/07/2016 : 10:41:18 AM
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Originally posted by Fastback
The opinion I heard multiple times was there was too much "heat" used welding thin metal to thick metal resulting in the thin metal becoming brittle.
Aree! I'm no metallurgist but I know from experience that welds done incorrectly will break right beside the weld. I had a 220 JD disk years ago that I couldn't keep together. A friend of mine, who welds steam pipe for a living, welded it and it stayed together the rest of the season and all the next and then I sold it. If you get time, and know a little about farming, you should look up a pic of the 220. I'm sure you'll have a good laugh at the design. lol |
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JoeHEB1
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Posted - 09/07/2016 : 3:25:27 PM
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New and improved frame. We'll see...what do you think???
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Fastback
Top Member
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Posted - 09/08/2016 : 05:03:48 AM
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Also noteworthy (or not) the slight differences in the sheet metal stamping.
When I have one of these seat backs fail now I look to see if its ever been replaced with this new design or one of the ones I had rewelded, so far I have not seen any of this new design fail or any of the rewelded ones.
That is a pretty good looking old Ward bus body in the background! |
Why yes, the ORIGinal CHARGER is a Fastback |
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JoeHEB1
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Posted - 09/08/2016 : 05:12:04 AM
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Originally posted by Fastback
Also noteworthy (or not) the slight differences in the sheet metal stamping.
When I have one of these seat backs fail now I look to see if its ever been replaced with this new design or one of the ones I had rewelded, so far I have not seen any of this new design fail or any of the rewelded ones.
That is a pretty good looking old Ward bus body in the background!
The stamping of the sheet metal does feels more rigid, good point. Why yes that is a Ward you see back there. Its a 87' model with a Detroit 8.2L, we've recently had it refurbished. |
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bwest
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United States
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Posted - 09/08/2016 : 05:21:30 AM
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Originally posted by JoeHEB1
quote:
Originally posted by Fastback
Also noteworthy (or not) the slight differences in the sheet metal stamping.
When I have one of these seat backs fail now I look to see if its ever been replaced with this new design or one of the ones I had rewelded, so far I have not seen any of this new design fail or any of the rewelded ones.
That is a pretty good looking old Ward bus body in the background!
The stamping of the sheet metal does feels more rigid, good point. Why yes that is a Ward you see back there. Its a 87' model with a Detroit 8.2L, we've recently had it refurbished.
The refurbish topic would be a good one on another thread! |
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exmod110
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Posted - 09/08/2016 : 05:42:46 AM
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| it is nice to see that they have holes punched ready to add the tec screws when they do break!! LOL |
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Thomasbus24
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Posted - 09/08/2016 : 06:05:31 AM
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LOL good eye on the pre punched holes!!!!!!
The AG ED/Shop kids are learning to weld as I type this, the weld on the new seat pictured above looks like it might have been done here. |
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JoeHEB1
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Posted - 09/08/2016 : 08:43:40 AM
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Originally posted by Thomasbus24
LOL good eye on the pre punched holes!!!!!!
The AG ED/Shop kids are learning to weld as I type this, the weld on the new seat pictured above looks like it might have been done here.
Weld shop kids would've done better than that LOL... |
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