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BBAllAmericanRE
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USA
357 Posts

Posted - 06/02/2004 :  6:30:07 PM  Show Profile  Visit BBAllAmericanRE's Homepage  Send BBAllAmericanRE an AOL message  Click to see BBAllAmericanRE's MSN Messenger address  Send BBAllAmericanRE a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
If you had to choose out of one of these Blue Bird buses to be yours, which one would you pick?

- Blue Bird All American Rear Engine
- Blue Bird All American Front Engine
- Blue Bird Vision
- Another Blue Bird

I would probably choose an All American Rear Engine, because thats what I like and have mainly haven been on for the past 4 years.

~Tyler~

-Ty-

Edited by - BBAllAmericanRE on 06/05/2004 08:56:55 AM

Rich
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United States
5768 Posts

Posted - 06/02/2004 :  6:35:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not too fond of Blue Birds, but since I have to choose, I'd take a 2005 SBCV International. Here are the options I'd choose:

Chassis:

-250 horsepower DT466 engine

-Allison MD-3060 automatic transmission

-Engine brake

-200 amp alternator

-Air brakes

-Air ride

-Block heater

-Cruise control

-100 gallon fuel tank, rear mounted, in-between frame rails

-Traction control

-Automatic tire chains

-Alcoa chrome wheels

Body:

-78 passenger

-High headroom

-Carrier roof mounted air conditioning system

-White ceiling

-Burgundy seating

-Black floor

-4 emergency pushout windows per side of bus

-3 emergency roof hatches, with top vent

-Air crossing gate

-Dual air stop arms, with strobing LED light heads

-Dual tone air horns. mounted above driver's window... or maybe one of those train air horns....

-Single warning lamp visor per lamp, with appx. 6" of paint surrounding warning lamps

-CRS G2 Fusion warning lamps

-"Wigwag" headlights, activated when red warning lamps turn on

-Warning lamp master switch

-LED stop/tail/turn lamps, armored LED clearance/marker lamps

-Destination sign, with frost-free storm glass

-Outward opening, double-out air door

-Bostrom air seat, 2 arm rests

-Fenderettes

-Frost-free storm glass on service door, driver's window, and first passenger windows per side

-MirrorLite Safety Cross crossview mirrors, heated

-MirrorLite Super Nickel rearview mirrors, power & heated

-Luggage bays, driver and passenger side, bottom must be even to skirt, and have rubrail

-Flat rear bumper (the one used on Visions)

-Acoustic ceiling

-Black hood

-White roof, curved edges

-Shoulder pads

-Panasonic AM/FM, CD player radio, with clock and XM Satellite Radio

-Interior PA system

-15 speakers, no speaker within two passenger lengths of driver

-Interior lighting: one light on each side of bus, mounted on ceiling, every two seating rows, for a total of appx. 12 total lights

-Drivers light, above driver's seat

-Strobe light, mounted towards the rear of the roof, with a guard. Switch to be located on control panel in interior of the bus.

-Steering wheel warning lamp and door controls (I'd wire it myself to make it like the IC CE... it can't be that hard )

-Koroseal pebble stepwell tread

-Tinted windows, full bus, except driver's window, service door, and windshield

-Two piece curved windshield

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Hmm, are those enough specs?




Edited by - Rich on 08/27/2004 9:32:09 PM
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Girardin_71
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Canada
624 Posts

Posted - 06/02/2004 :  7:11:00 PM  Show Profile  Send Girardin_71 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Blue-Bird SBCV on a internatrional 3300 chassis with VT-365 V8,Autoshift 7spd, Hyd brakes, jackknife manual door with chrome handle, Air Conditioning, AM/FM/CD, Blue seats, White interior, Wheel chair lift, Air Seat. only a dream

Girardin/Blue-Bird are my favorite school buses
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SuperiorGMC1963
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USA
1078 Posts

Posted - 06/02/2004 :  8:51:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tyler,
Having seen pics of the Portage BB AA RE's on Brian's site I have to say that I too really like them. Where I live in SE Georgia it's about all I see, Blue Bird RE's everywhere!
But being a conventional kind of guy I'd still have to go with any Blue Bird conventional, leaning toward the 3300 with the Vision in a close second.

Ted

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Peter
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USA
1051 Posts

Posted - 06/02/2004 :  8:53:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like conventionals on the old GMC 6000 chassis.

Spicer is nicer.
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Cody
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United States
1628 Posts

Posted - 06/02/2004 :  9:05:56 PM  Show Profile  Visit Cody's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I like the 1992-2002 Chevrolet/GMC Blue-Bird Conventional. Thats the only kind a BB I like.
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Buskid
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USA
3368 Posts

Posted - 06/02/2004 :  9:25:20 PM  Show Profile  Visit Buskid's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tfitzpatrick88

If you had to choose out of one of these Blue Bird buses to be yours, which one would you pick?


None of the above. Just kidding.

The Blue Bird All American RE; with standard headroom, of course.
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GMCBlueBird83
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USA
1477 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2004 :  06:05:17 AM  Show Profile  Visit GMCBlueBird83's Homepage  Send GMCBlueBird83 an AOL message  Send GMCBlueBird83 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tfitzpatrick88

If you had to choose out of one of these Blue Bird buses to be yours, which one would you pick?

- Blue Bird All American Rear Engine
- Blue Bird All American Front Engine
- Blue Bird Vision
- Another Blue Bird

I would probably choose an All American Rear Engine, because thats what I like and have mainly haven been on for the past 5 years.

~Tyler~



My favoreite Blue Birds are the older GMC 6000s and the new SBCV on the International 3300 chassis. The All American REs are nice too as are the Freightliner conventionals they sold for awhile.
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Sherm
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USA
516 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2004 :  06:24:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Conventional on an S-Series chassis; 65 pass. with 10 windows per side, air brakes/accessories.
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72Corsair
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USA
698 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2004 :  06:28:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i personally like all Blue Bird but my favorites are the late 50's early 60's All American and the 80's All Americand. For Conventional i like the GMC's
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thomas86_a
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USA
4404 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2004 :  12:07:29 PM  Show Profile  Visit thomas86_a's Homepage  Send thomas86_a an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I'm sure everyone is just waiting for the day that I actually go out and choose a Blue Bird!

The one Blue Bird I do like is the ROADRUNNER seen in the following link, http://members.aol.com/njtbus/Mtpleas4.htm If I had to choose a Blue Bird out of a lineup that's the one I'd take.

If you have an International, you NEED customer service.
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92FrdCarp#11
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USA
1455 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2004 :  12:57:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit 92FrdCarp#11's Homepage  Send 92FrdCarp#11 an AOL message  Click to see 92FrdCarp#11's MSN Messenger address  Send 92FrdCarp#11 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I would take either the Vision or the All American FE.

Johnny

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CrownBus1
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USA
633 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2004 :  3:24:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Vision or the All American RE.

Bus 1
1985 Crown
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GMCBlueBird83
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USA
1477 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2004 :  3:39:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit GMCBlueBird83's Homepage  Send GMCBlueBird83 an AOL message  Send GMCBlueBird83 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thomas86_a

I'm sure everyone is just waiting for the day that I actually go out and choose a Blue Bird!

The one Blue Bird I do like is the ROADRUNNER seen in the following link, http://members.aol.com/njtbus/Mtpleas4.htm If I had to choose a Blue Bird out of a lineup that's the one I'd take.



Oooh, I like that one too. And the best part(or worst part depending on how one sees it), the body style is still current
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Mitchell
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Canada
741 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2004 :  4:48:06 PM  Show Profile  Send Mitchell a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
1)Mini bird
2)SBCV 3300 chassis burgundy seats,air conditioning,cd player,heated mirrors,heated drivers seat(man that would be nice),4 way reds,and a manual door!!!!
3)2003 TC/2000FE(same options as above)
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Bus Boy 39
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USA
1313 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2004 :  6:38:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1995-2001 GMC Bird. Manual, inward opening door. Four push-outs, and two roof hatches. Air horn. Brown seats/floor/ceiling. GMC's rock!

I'll show you my air brakes if you show me yours.
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B. Busguy33
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USA
3444 Posts

Posted - 06/06/2004 :  3:41:49 PM  Show Profile  Visit B. Busguy33's Homepage  Send B. Busguy33 an AOL message  Send B. Busguy33 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
2001 International/Blue Bird

-DT466E @ 210 hp
-Allison MT643 (were they still around?)
-Air everything: brakes, door, horn, seat, suspension, stop sign, crossing arm
-71 passenger
-2 or 3 roof hatches
-4 push out windows on each side
-Alcoa wheels (front and rear)
-standard headroom
-full reflective tape package
-powder coated window frames, black window posts
-roof strobe light
-fog lamps
-blue seats, white ceiling, gray floor
-driver's center console
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BusBoy
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USA
2042 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2004 :  07:48:26 AM  Show Profile  Visit BusBoy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I loved the Blue Bird Freightliner's.

Your Child's Safety is Our Business
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Thomas Ford 85-16
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USA
4147 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2004 :  10:20:26 AM  Show Profile  Visit Thomas Ford 85-16's Homepage  Send Thomas Ford 85-16 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I've always had something for the Pre 1989 All American REs. They were unique. My district had 3, Michigan spec'd 1985 models. Numbers 1-, 2-, and 3-85.

Mike's Bus Yard - http://buses.zwebpages.com - Since 1999
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78fordwayne
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USA
2864 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2004 :  4:46:05 PM  Show Profile  Visit 78fordwayne's Homepage  Send 78fordwayne an AOL message  Send 78fordwayne a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I love the Blue Bird 3300 with the extra black around the 8 ways. Looks really sharp!

Robert B.

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1983WardFord
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USA
1368 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2004 :  08:00:20 AM  Show Profile  Send 1983WardFord an AOL message  Send 1983WardFord a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I'll take an 80s Blue Bird International on the good-ol' S-1800 chassis. The 9.0 liter engine is what I'd prefer, manual or automatic transmission doesn't matter. I'd like it to have air brakes and the chrome door handle with a jackknife-style door.

Out of the ones listed, I'll take the All-American FE with a CAT C7 engine and an Allison MD3060 transmission, air brakes, and spec'd to Ohio's standards (though I'd like a jackknife door instead of the outward-opening)

Due to the current economic condition, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off until further notice.
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Mitchell
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Canada
741 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2004 :  09:36:41 AM  Show Profile  Send Mitchell a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Hey that bus sounds great Ryan! I really like the chrome door handle as well. Has anybody eer seen one of the current Microbirds with a chrome door handle? I thought they didnt offer it anymore until Stock transportation got a whole bunch of 2004 International 3800's that all have the chrome handle. Does rhis cost more or less than the standard handle?

Thanks,Mitchell
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98TomFord
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USA
812 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2004 :  4:32:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit 98TomFord's Homepage  Send 98TomFord an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I'd take a Ford/Bird over any other choice.It'd hafta have a good strong diesel in it, the classic Ford airbrake system, 65/66 passengers with high backed brown seats. Jackknife door & deffently something other than the ****ty door opener BlueBird uses (the chrome one sounds good to me though)and lastly a nice high backed driver seat (either air or non-air). But to go with the topics question, I'd deffently take the new 3300/Birdy.

My Ford Can Turn On $50, Can Your Int? ~Ford Buses - Gems To The Eyes~
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Old Dog
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USA
26 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2004 :  10:54:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gimme an 86 or 87 Wayne,I'll drive it through the gates of HE double toothpicks.

Wild Willy
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Mitchell
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Canada
741 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2004 :  12:50:25 PM  Show Profile  Send Mitchell a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
The topic asked for your favourite Blue-Bird,not your favourite Wayne.
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coski
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USA
38 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2004 :  1:51:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would take Bus # 611 from North Area Jeffco Schools in colorado.

it was a 1979 Blue Bird. That is all i remeber about it. it had 410,000 miles on it before it was sold off in 2003
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Thomasfan89
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USA
1141 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2004 :  2:21:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OO how about a 1997 Blue Bird Ford. 215hp Cummins ISB, Allison MT-643 ( only if I can keep the column shifter), air seat (Bostrom) air brakes, air ride, air horn (dual tone Chrome, foot pedal operated),air door(jacknife), new Burgandy seat color with black floor, high headroom, tints with black frames (even if they dont offer it i will put it on), white roof, Transpec hatches, LED everything, powered vents (2), roof strobe, Strobes in stop arm, crossing arm, Ohio specs, and much more!
Greg
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98TomFord
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USA
812 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2004 :  6:45:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit 98TomFord's Homepage  Send 98TomFord an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Geez Greg your Ford beats mine - but then again I didn't fully explain what I would want in it. I'd rather have the rope then foot operated air horn, be ore fun to tug on the rope haha.

My Ford Can Turn On $50, Can Your Int? ~Ford Buses - Gems To The Eyes~
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eckbird
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USA
46 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2004 :  8:50:01 PM  Show Profile  Send eckbird a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
A new Vission w/full air-ride, or the last of the CV200 Chevy's with teh new dash
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rswboe
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USA
675 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2004 :  1:24:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Retired / gone....

Live each like it's going to be your last, one day you'll be right!
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dmoney127
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USA
253 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2004 :  3:19:16 PM  Show Profile  Send dmoney127 an AOL message  Send dmoney127 an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
Out of the current lot, an All-American RE/ISC. Kinda like ours, although I wish they would at least spec tinted windows, double-nickel or eagle-style mirrors, and a cord-operated air horn, rather than the foot pedal. I've only been on the Vision and FE models, so I don't have an opinion, at least for the sake of driving.

For all models, a early to mid 90's All-American FE would be my bus of choice. The front-end styling on those models kick more butt than allowable by law! And if I could have a 3rd, it would be a mid-70's IHC/3208/automatic. In fact, I may have some of those pics floating around too. Will take a look.
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72Corsair
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USA
698 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2004 :  07:40:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I love the 1960's BBAA RE's.
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wantamustang94
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USA
15 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2004 :  01:49:02 AM  Show Profile  Visit wantamustang94's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I am a Thomas fan, only living 18 miles from thir plant here in NC, but my favorite Blue Bird was a 1973 front engine All-American. I bought it at a surplus auction the Central Dauphin School District had in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania in 1990, when they were trying to get rid of all the pre 1977s they had. I only paid 450.00 for it! It was a pain climbing over the engine cowl to sit in the driver's seat, but I drove it for 6 years hauling school surplus furniture in it! The only thing I hated about it was the fact that it was higher off the ground than a conventional, which made it harder to load, but I loved driving down the interstate in a vehicle as long as most 18 wheelers!! I sold it to a man who made it into a camper in 1996 for 1000.00 and an old Wonder Bread truck he had, so I made my money back!! I needed the money to move back to North Carolina from Penna. I made a few trips to Carolina in it, darn near maxing out my Texaco card each trip! It was so long that it would block the view of my dad's house down here as well as his driveway, so I'd have to park it at a shopping center 5 blocks down the street and walk to his house. I loved the looks of the rear of it, because at that time, until 1975, the All Americans and Conventionals from Blue Bird still had a sloped roof line in the rear.
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IC-CEiswhereiwannabe
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USA
214 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2004 :  08:27:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If I, an avid IC lover/Bluebird hater was forced to pick a bluebird I would definatly have to pick the SBCV with 3300 IHC chassis. That is a beautiful chassis even on a BB

Why can't U C what I C in IC?
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Jabee
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USA
12 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2004 :  9:20:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is a mute issue for me...
The only BB dealer in Alabama just moved to Thomas...
and there is not a BB dealer left. So, systems can
not even bid on BB right now...

But..I have heard a lot of good things about the
BB RE...(then have to be better then the IC's RE that
we had a few years back...I love IC, but those things
were pathetic.)

I got to drive the new Thomas C2 recently....AMAZING!!

JaBee

JaBee
The Bama Bus Guy
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Busdude3
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USA
1178 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2004 :  5:15:03 PM  Show Profile  Send Busdude3 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I'll take a 1980s or late 70s Blue Bird All American FE or RE. I love these classic buses with their loud old engines.
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