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bwest
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Thomasbus24
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 Posted - 06/17/2016 : 05:37:05 AM
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For the Syntech seats:
http://www.syntecseating.com/products/s3c-lapshoulder-seat.aspx
http://www.syntecseating.com/service-videos.aspx Shows how to...doesn't look TOO horrible but of course chewing gum had not yet been introduced into the seating system of that new bus they were working on! Not to mention the amazing amount of space between the seats, wink wink.
For the IMMI seats....my new CE lift bus has some with the built in child seats (no 3 point belts) but the same basic setup. If I'm unlucky enough to have one of those damaged I'll let you know how many curse words fly on repair day. |
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krmvcs
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Posted - 06/17/2016 : 07:06:36 AM
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| if you do end up having to replace foams and covers, get em through your dealer. i tried getting them cheaper from TRP through my kenworth dealer and they took 4 months, and were the wrong parts. the foams looked like 1/2" styrofoam glued together. |
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bwest
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Posted - 06/17/2016 : 08:10:02 AM
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Yeah, I haven't heard anything about mandating them here in Illinois but you know how the "powers that be" like to rearrange deck chairs on a ship that's going down. lol At this point in Illinois we need to be weathering the storm of a budget problem but we keep spending money on just whatever crosses our mind at the capital. So, if I see this in the near future I wouldn't be surprised.
But I digress. I am always interested in getting ahead of the curve so I know what's going on when things head that direction. I wonder if some brands are easier to change covers/ foams than others.
Thanks for the input so far. |
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Thomasbus24
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Posted - 06/17/2016 : 08:35:41 AM
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Originally posted by krmvcs
if you do end up having to replace foams and covers, get em through your dealer. i tried getting them cheaper from TRP through my kenworth dealer and they took 4 months, and were the wrong parts. the foams looked like 1/2" styrofoam glued together.
Are you talking the IMMI BTI seats or the Syntec seats? |
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krmvcs
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Posted - 06/17/2016 : 08:48:53 AM
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| IMMI. the aftermarket TRP foams were total crap. my latest thomas buses were built before the switch to syntec. |
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Thomasbus24
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Posted - 06/17/2016 : 10:32:57 AM
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Mechan1c
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USA
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Posted - 06/17/2016 : 1:14:18 PM
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We have some IMMI seats in special needs buses but we have yet to repair any.
I'm thinking if these get widespread use in regular route buses the repair costs are going to be through the roof.
Waiting for them does take forever...worse than B*** seat products. |
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dwight
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Posted - 06/17/2016 : 4:14:25 PM
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Have you heard the term, "MINNESOTA NICE"? I operated my 20 school bus fleet for 36 years and never bought a single seat cover or foam liner. Back in 1967 Bluebird built a new school bus for me and substituted HERCULITE Vandal Resistant Upholstery Fabrics in place of the regular heavy oz. seat cover material. I remember it as a nylon parachute type of material that could be punched full of holes with a pencil but you could not tear the fabric. The material was slippery and the foam envelope seat padding under the cover let go on the glue seams of the foam. Bluebird had me return the bus to the Mt. Pleasant, Iowa assembly plant and replaced every seat with a new complete passenger seat assembly covered with the good old heavy oz. fabric material. They also gave me a pallet of foam seat padding and a pile of seat cover material to show appreciation for me taking two days to return the bus to the assembly plant and as Paul Harvey used to say, that is the rest of the story and why I never bought seat foam & covers.
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Thomasbus24
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Posted - 06/18/2016 : 06:45:14 AM
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And 49 years later they still have the same problem with foam.
Sorry, couldn't resist. |
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dferrell
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Posted - 06/21/2016 : 1:13:41 PM
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We have all Bluebirds with C.E. White seats and they are a pain in the neck. The seat belts have to be removed and routed through the foam and the cover. I would say it will take at least an hour to change one going pretty fast. They are also a pain as they staple from the bottom. I usually end up just pulling the seat frame completely out and turning it upside-down.
The Thomas dealer just brought a new bus by with the Syntec seats and they look much easier. They just unzip from the back and you don't have to deal with the seatbelts because the retractors are on the seat back. |
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bwest
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08 Thomas EF
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Posted - 07/02/2016 : 11:01:24 AM
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| Whoa, whoa whoa... just saw in the opening of that video Bryan posted that Syntec is a Takata company?! I hope they do a better job with bus seats than air bags. :P LOL Sorry, couldn't resist! |
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