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Fastback
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Posted - 12/16/2015 :  08:57:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maxxforce 7 engine has some occasional "hiccups", no check engine light, no water in fuel/water separator. Does have an inactive code described as "VGT commanded position below a threshold". Any thoughts?

JoeHEB1
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Posted - 12/16/2015 :  09:08:07 AM  Show Profile  Visit JoeHEB1's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Had one that was trying to cut out while accelerating, it was intermittent. It didn't give an engine light or the VGT code. It ended up being the FRP (fuel rail pressure) sensor. Not sure if you are having the same symptoms though.
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Fldawg
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Posted - 12/17/2015 :  07:15:25 AM  Show Profile  Visit Fldawg's Homepage  Reply with Quote
do a bounce test on the turbo see if it is free, if not take it apart and clean the vanes they usually will stick and cause a code. they tend to do it if it sits a long time like Christmas hoilday
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Fastback
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Posted - 12/17/2015 :  11:27:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Turbo linkage moves freely with my finger with key off, with engine off key on I can't move it. I assume this is normal.

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Ryan5r
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Posted - 12/17/2015 :  11:42:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had one a few weeks ago doing the same thing and it was the ICP
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Fastback
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Posted - 12/18/2015 :  12:24:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I do believe its fuel pressure related, I had bus hooked up to my ServiceMaxx and when it "hiccuped" I noticed a large variation in fuel rail pressure.
The way this bus runs, if it had spark plugs and a distributor, I would be checking the cap and rotor.

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mysterytrain
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Posted - 12/19/2015 :  3:56:32 PM  Show Profile  Visit mysterytrain's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Would also guess fuel pressure, I never believe fuel pressure data on the screen, I use an OTC fuel pressure tool, not sure of the pressure req. for mxf7 but the dt466 is 65 psi, if you see a bounce between like 40 and 70 ( press sensor is too slow to see this) it will run rough bad starts, "hickup" for lack of a better term, should be rock solid at 2,000 rpm even a bounce at idle will cause problems and then it is just a fuel pressure kit.
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Fastback
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Posted - 12/21/2015 :  04:29:58 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The MaxxForce 7 is high pressure common rail, fuel rail pressures I saw from low to high idle, ranged anywhere from 5,000 psi to 15,000 psi.

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Fastback
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Posted - 01/04/2016 :  09:51:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
UPDATE;
Bus went to the dealer, tech believes the problem is being caused by the crankcase venting back into the engine air intake and effecting turbo operation. Going to install "up"date kit, basically back to a road draft tube I believe.
So maybe the fuel pressure variations are the result of the engine hiccups and not the cause. Time will tell.

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JoeHEB1
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Posted - 01/11/2016 :  08:53:22 AM  Show Profile  Visit JoeHEB1's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Curious as to how the dealer repair went? Did it fix the problem?
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Fastback
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Posted - 01/11/2016 :  09:05:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well I picked it up friday and it does now have a road draft tube. Driver used it on his friday afternoon route and said the "hiccups" are gone but when he was pulling a long hill he lost power and now has the puff of smoke with an exclamation point light on.
Not sure if its related to something dealer did, I nursed it back to my location but have yet to run it in my shop.

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aaronwilmoth80911
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Posted - 01/11/2016 :  11:40:51 AM  Show Profile  Visit aaronwilmoth80911's Homepage  Reply with Quote
DPF may need to be baked.
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JoeHEB1
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Posted - 01/11/2016 :  2:03:12 PM  Show Profile  Visit JoeHEB1's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What a nightmare these V8's...
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Fastback
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Posted - 01/12/2016 :  07:37:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bus in my shop, hooked to servicemaxx, active code is 1729-3251 "EGDP signal out of range low"

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aaronwilmoth80911
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Posted - 01/12/2016 :  09:46:52 AM  Show Profile  Visit aaronwilmoth80911's Homepage  Reply with Quote
On the Maxxforce DT, this would require the differential pressure tubes be pulled off the DPF and checked for blockage. If they are, the DPF might need to be baked.
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mysterytrain
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Posted - 01/12/2016 :  8:14:56 PM  Show Profile  Visit mysterytrain's Homepage  Reply with Quote
the egdp sensor is done for, when replacing don't put it in backwards won't read right.
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Fastback
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Posted - 01/13/2016 :  07:56:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mysterytrain

the egdp sensor is done for, when replacing don't put it in backwards won't read right.



Not that it means much but sensor was replaced last August, dealer has the bus now again, we will see what they come up with this time.

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Fastback
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Posted - 01/27/2016 :  08:23:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well they replaced the EGDP sensor again and so far so good.

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slippert
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Posted - 01/27/2016 :  09:37:05 AM  Show Profile  Click to see slippert's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Is that sensor part #3626432C1? did they install or was the #2612020C1 tin sheild installed with it?

I have to replace a fair amount of those sensor here too, if it makes you feel any better... no rime or reason sometimes why they go bad... But they do seem to hold up longer, when tin shield is in place.. doesn't seem to happen as often now that I put those sheilds on them....

Now that I said that, I will probably be replacing one tomorrow morning!!
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Fastback
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Posted - 01/27/2016 :  09:42:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The invoice reads # 3626432C1, no mention of shield part number.

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Edited by - Fastback on 01/27/2016 09:44:28 AM
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