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Mark23290
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United States
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Posted - 12/17/2012 :  07:44:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This morning I got out of bus and found oil everywhere.. There is a big plug looking thing with a ring but near the starter on the side of the oil pan, oil has poured out of the pan through this.. What is it and can I just tighten and put new oil in?
I'm a private contractor and never seen this happen before.

Any help or ideas appreciated.

Fastback
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Posted - 12/17/2012 :  07:49:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Its the dipstick tube adapter. International makes a repair kit that can be installed without removing pan. You can try tightening the nut but chances are you won't stop the leak by doing so.

Why yes, the ORIGinal CHARGER is a Fastback
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Fastback
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Posted - 12/17/2012 :  07:56:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
PAN DOES NOT NEED TO BE REMOVED!
International has a repair kit for this problem.
I believe its PN 1846146C91.

Why yes, the ORIGinal CHARGER is a Fastback

Edited by - Fastback on 12/17/2012 08:11:44 AM
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Fastback
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Posted - 12/18/2012 :  05:42:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by joeheb

Darn!!! Fastback. I've done hundreds that way.

Edit: Had no clue they had a repair kit for it.



oucch, T444E oil pan R&R is no fun.
I imagine International come out with the kit to reduce warranty costs with this repair. It basically involves using an oil galley cleaning brush inserted into the dipstick tube hole to keep that piece from dropping into pan, then remove the big nut (fan clutch wrench fits), pull out o ring, clean area of oil, reassemble with a paper gasket on outside of pan and the supplied in the kit permatex/Loctite products.

Why yes, the ORIGinal CHARGER is a Fastback
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Thomasbus24
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USA
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Posted - 12/18/2012 :  10:20:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by joeheb
Edit: Had no clue they had a repair kit for it.



That's because you are the only one having this problem, don't you know that!!!!!!
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C.HARDY
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Posted - 12/19/2012 :  4:41:46 PM  Show Profile  Click to see C.HARDY's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Thats a sick feeling when backing piece falls down into the pan......been there

"Hardybusman"
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bdhutier
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Posted - 12/26/2012 :  1:34:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit bdhutier's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
It basically involves using an oil galley cleaning brush inserted into the dipstick tube hole to keep that piece from dropping into pan, then remove the big nut (fan clutch wrench fits), pull out o ring, clean area of oil, reassemble with a paper gasket on outside of pan and the supplied in the kit permatex/Loctite products.



I used a wire hanger to hold the internal piece, and sealed the nut with the leftovers of the priced-like-it's-magical silicone IC sells from a front-cover job a few weeks prior!
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05ICCE
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Posted - 12/30/2012 :  5:22:18 PM  Show Profile  Visit 05ICCE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thomasbus24

quote:
Originally posted by joeheb
Edit: Had no clue they had a repair kit for it.



That's because you are the only one having this problem, don't you know that!!!!!!



"International" We have never seen that problem but we have a service kit to correct it.

Mr. Scott, "because he drives a COOL BUS"
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Mark23290
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Posted - 01/05/2013 :  08:40:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anyone know the nut size off hand?? Going to try and work on it this weekend. Someone said a clutch fan wrench is perfect size, will auto zone have this?
Thanks for all the replies. It is the dipstick as everyone posted. Nut just came loose.
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Fastback
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Posted - 01/07/2013 :  06:01:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mark23290

Anyone know the nut size off hand?? Going to try and work on it this weekend. Someone said a clutch fan wrench is perfect size, will auto zone have this?
Thanks for all the replies. It is the dipstick as everyone posted. Nut just came loose.



The fan clutch wrench for the T444E measures 2" and fits perfectly.

Why yes, the ORIGinal CHARGER is a Fastback
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SDDT
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Posted - 04/24/2013 :  12:13:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit SDDT's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Can't seem to get oil pan to stop leaking has anyone used a gasket for this I see moroso makes one
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Derbybug
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USA
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Posted - 04/24/2013 :  12:45:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
SDDI are you referring to the oil pan itself or the dipstick tube adapter? Either one of them can leak oil.

Safety in all things, always!
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SDDT
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Posted - 04/24/2013 :  3:08:30 PM  Show Profile  Visit SDDT's Homepage  Reply with Quote
the pan it self my tech has done it twice. it leaked in the front now in the rear it seems that some oil was still dripping and would not let the sealant cure over weekend leaked as soon as he filled it up didn't even have to start it.
Is there a better sealant or is a gasket the answer??
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Ron Douglas
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Posted - 01/18/2016 :  07:58:33 AM  Show Profile  Visit Ron Douglas's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Use the Motorcraft(Ford) silicone for the oil pan gasket. It is the best. RTV sealant just for the 7.3 engine.
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RonF
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Posted - 01/19/2016 :  03:51:34 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
SDDI, I have done dozens of oil pans Moroso makes and have not had one leak yet.

http://www.xtremediesel.com/moroso-27293-oil-pan-gasket.aspx

US Army retired CMBT
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