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94AmTranVolunteer
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 Posted - 05/07/2011 : 6:59:20 PM
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The Principal at my Middle School has talked to us about Bullying, and I just want to bring it up here.
Bullying is Out of Control here in America. Kids commit suicide because of someone saying something bad about them. Kids beating another kid to the ground. Bullying in my opinion, is something everyone has to go through, but its Out-Of-Control!
I am a Nice Person, however I get bullied. Its out of control. I get bullied, but its just the bullying saying mean stuff and starting rumors, no physical stuff. I am against bullying, however, its a part of life. Our Principal Said that most people get bullied because the bully doesn't know much about that person.
I am going to quote my principal.
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Some Kids bully people because they don't know much about them. Take an Iceberg. The Iceberg above the water is what people know about you, whats under the water of the Iceberg is what they don't know about you. Its that Under the water part of the Iceberg that someone can hurt, and the part of the iceberg above the water starts to melt.
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08 Thomas EF
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 7:24:09 PM
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Out of control? I think that's a bit over the top.
I know it's not easy to ignore bullying if you're a victim, but I think that needs to be done more. I don't let people get a rise out of me (if anything they'll get a dirty look, otherwise I just keep walking if someone I don't like tries to interact with me, or in some cases, pretend to like them, even though they know I don't) and nobody gives me trouble, although there seems to be an increasing trend of people taking candid pictures of me and putting them on Facebook.... In elementary school, I did let people get a rise out of me, and that was like trying to extinguish a fire with gasoline. Now I don't and it's not a problem, or they've simply grown up. Apparently bullying is a big issue in my school, though. |
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94AmTranVolunteer
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 8:01:20 PM
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Originally posted by 08 Thomas EF
Out of control? I think that's a bit over the top.
I know it's not easy to ignore bullying if you're a victim, but I think that needs to be done more. I don't let people get a rise out of me (if anything they'll get a dirty look, otherwise I just keep walking if someone I don't like tries to interact with me, or in some cases, pretend to like them, even though they know I don't) and nobody gives me trouble, although there seems to be an increasing trend of people taking candid pictures of me and putting them on Facebook.... In elementary school, I did let people get a rise out of me, and that was like trying to extinguish a fire with gasoline. Now I don't and it's not a problem, or they've simply grown up. Apparently bullying is a big issue in my school, though.
I am sorry, but you want them to do it more? IMO, It should stop, and I do tell Adults when being bullied. |
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JK
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Posted - 05/07/2011 : 11:31:18 PM
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Bullies, once identified, ride in the front half of the bus. A student persistently bullying on the bus is a big deal, can be immediately removed until resolved. The best behaved have the run of my bus, not the bullies. The quietest place on the bus is the rear area. (jk)
Click here for the Hostile Workplace/Schoolplace Thread.
Stopping Violence on School Buses: Not an Easy Task but One that Can be Accomplished - Click here for source.
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SteveCof00
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Posted - 05/08/2011 : 12:34:36 AM
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I'd agree with that. Its not that its gone up or down, but the way things work in today's world have changed compared to 10-15 years ago (when I was in school). The Internet is forever (if not longer?). The media, as usual, is publicizing the extreme cases; while this does make people discuss the issue, is it really what students face at school today? I am a little skeptical (just a little bit).
I like Eric's example of "candid pictures" and Facebook; to do the same thing in the past involved buying film for the camera, taking pictures, getting the film developed, then making enough to post at school (without getting caught, of course!) because if the Internet was around yet, there was nothing like Facebook. Oh yeah, all of this would have taken time and effort rather than pressing "send" a couple of times.
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Originally posted by 08 Thomas EF
Out of control? I think that's a bit over the top.
I know it's not easy to ignore bullying if you're a victim, but I think that needs to be done more. I don't let people get a rise out of me (if anything they'll get a dirty look, otherwise I just keep walking if someone I don't like tries to interact with me, or in some cases, pretend to like them, even though they know I don't) and nobody gives me trouble, although there seems to be an increasing trend of people taking candid pictures of me and putting them on Facebook.... In elementary school, I did let people get a rise out of me, and that was like trying to extinguish a fire with gasoline. Now I don't and it's not a problem, or they've simply grown up. Apparently bullying is a big issue in my school, though.
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JK
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Posted - 05/08/2011 : 12:18:45 PM
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I can also agree that the way things work in today's world have changed compared to 10-15 years ago. Would have to go back at least 50 years to escape the public gross disrespect children, parents and even bureaucrats act out toward educators, including school bus drivers. (In our district school bus drivers are considered educators as well.) Seems appropriate here for any interested to address this issue in more detail:
Much of The Fast Track methods dealing with malbehavior involves 'back to the future' remedies, such as immediate removal from the bus environment is a remedy from back to at least the forties and fifties, is modified these days only in that the abusive child is not thrown off the bus at school or in route but escorted by an adult to the school office or turned over to law enforcement. They are supervised hand-to-hand. Protective, not discipline or punishment, and for this reason and concerning the school bus ‘refusal to transport’ should be kept separate from the citation discipline policy.
It is true that recently the politically correct, special interests, and the money grabbers see the advantage of entering this issue. 'Hate bullying' is on the agenda and all sorts of behaviors are being labeled bullying, along with promoting mediation and conflict resolution programs that do little but make the producers money. Dr. Gary Namie, the nation’s leading expert in bullying asserts not to compromise the already compromised target using these sorts of strategies.
Schools know of only about 10-percent of the bullying that actually goes' on, 90-percent is accomplished in secret. Those in workplace and schoolplace denial alike see no bullying, hear no bullying and claim to say no bullying is happening or is rare under their supervision.
When a school or school bus actually confronts bullying the result is worse for a time, a good indicator that bullying is being addressed successfully. Most bullies like their power and are not willing to give it up. Some of these have parents that bully as well and demand every right for their child while ignoring the rights of their child’s targets.
The effect on the targets can be substantial. Very sad to see a bright, intelligent growing child regress to a fearful one that is so busy surviving on the bus and at school to be putting much time toward his or her studies. On middle school runs I keep a better behaved and prepared student (usually older volunteer student) near the target to help intervene, or might move the target to the back area where the best behaved have the run.
Trained observation and the better behaved kids helped me discover the bullies on our bus. About one-third of the kids on our bus were identified as mild to serious bullies, targets, or both. Bullies and some combination bully/targets are assigned the front area.
The most popular student on the bus is a well established bully, removed a few times and written up. Worst cases too often can not be 'fixed' but can be revealed and contained adequately in the front area of the bus, or removed from the bus.
The best behaved on this school bus have the run and help intervene in bullying, including helped me understand an alternate style - 'Dissing' (disrespecting, teasing, insulting, bashing, rapping insults, awesome talking, smack lame free style dis chirp, etc.).
Dissing, as explained by the best behaved eighth graders is when a student or pocket of students display their power by persistently verbally abusing a target. May be subtle, presented as helpful, such as "You smell, really should take a bath once in a while." More subvert are persistent remarks, such as: "Loser." - "Nobody likes you." - "Why don't you just kill yourself?" and such; and agitating by touching, pulling hair, tossing paper, tripping, bumping in to, taking the targets stuff, making up lies to get the target in to trouble, that sort of thing. These are now off the bus or also contained in the front area of the bus.
When the bus driver achieves a more civil environment for the better behaved on the bus is also when the bullies escalate toward the driver. An unprepared or fearful bus driver does not prevail without the direct support of the best behaved students and adults involved, which evolved to helping me put a stop to bullying on my school bus.
When these malbehaved attempted their routines on me that act soon became their undoing. It was then possible to observe their strategies personally and on video, which also revealed what to look for in the school as well.
We prevailed against every mobbing attempt, every mini-mobbing attempt, and also the individual bullies creative attempts, and including some bullying parent's attempts, by alerting the well behaved riders not to join in but to watch what happens next.
Haven't stopped the bullying, probably never happen, but together with the help of the well-behaved put a stop to much of it on our school bus. Regardless, probably some 50-percent is still missed, some even escape until law enforcement and the courts understand this issue and also help intervene.
Four targets are now doing very well on the bus. Four targets are no longer so afraid or at least not as afraid on the bus or at school. Perhaps four targets will not eventually drop out of school, or worse – drop out of life. As each success promotes another success more targets are coming forward.
Also, some kids that stopped riding the bus earlier in the school year are returning to the bus, maneuvering out of reach of the bullies that are now walking to and from school.
You know you’re on the right track when ending pretending that bullying is not a big deal, then commit to study how to intervene, and when you then intervene, for that effort you are then attacked by the bullies – both children and adult bullies.
Bullying, not the politically correct version or the denial version, but real bullying in the workplace and just as much alive in the schoolplace are alike in that it is a persistent act, a systematic campaign of interpersonal destruction on a target, often because the main bully targeting the person can not stand the likeability, the emotional intelligence, confidence and strength of their chosen target. Bullying is often psychological violence that can lead to serious health issues, very much so what is escalating on the Internet anonymously toward children. (jk)
Here are a few videos to cover this issue in the schoolplace and also in the workplace:
Click here for Bullied to death video.
Click here for Adina's Deck video - 60 second trailer for a TV show pilot about the issue of "Cyberbullies." -- Click here for More Trailers.
Click here for Workplace issues (also applies to the Schoolplace).
Stopping Violence on School Buses: Not an Easy Task but One that Can be Accomplished - Click here for source.
Click here for the Hostile Workplace/Schoolplace Thread.
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ILoveBlueBirdTC2000
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Posted - 06/19/2011 : 7:42:37 PM
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| I find bullying on my bus everyday. Even when i try to stop it, the children do not listen to me. It comes in one ear and goes out the other. But if i see a kid hit even once, then i give a write up. I look up in the mirror all of the time and if i see something that shouldnt be going on, i stop the bus and stare up at the kids. They think they can get away with crap, but i dont tolerate it. The children even bully me. Once a kid took a picture of me and sent it to all of his friends. I found out about it when the principal of the school called my boss and told her that there was a picture of me. It started to spread around and a teacher caught a kid texting about me and saw the picture of me in the phone. She turned the kid into the principal and i got the call. But bullying i do not tolerate. I was bullied when i was in high school so i know how it feels. |
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