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sbd37091
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JK
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 Posted - 05/01/2009 : 1:29:36 PM
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The lights were not working and the kids and their bus driver knew this reality? If this is true - Oh boy, the troubles that's coming provider's way are horrific.
Regardless, and even with lights not working, a stopped school bus ought to be a 'Red Alert' to everyone on the bus and also everyone outside the bus.
No lights and still going to brake the law by driving that blasted bus? Doorside? Does doorside pick-up lend a clue?
If not doorside -- Alert the parents to escort their child across to the bus door?
Can't do that? Let the bus driver secure the bus and escort the child across the road as done in California. Do something other than let a kid get killed.
I see small children running across the road in front of their school bus at bus stops in various communities all the time. Does anyone bother any more to train little kids how to survive crossing all roads under all situations? And when to stay put and wait for help?
None of this works?
Go lawful - Wait, and wait longer if necessary for another bus.
This goes beyond the bus driver and mechanic, in my opinion. Depositions and litigation is now on that facility's agenda. Blame will be assigned wherever that can happen, and yet, the kid is still dead.
I grieve for the parents. It is horrible enough – unmeasurable for some parents when a child is lost. But when that loss is a result of collective stupidity, how much worse the grieving if that is possible?
There is no reason this child ought to have died, not that day, not in that situation.
Too many seemed not to have the time to educate, to supervise and to escort when it was needed and might have helped save a life. Now time must be made to receive a horrific education for all those responsible for this tragedy happening.
If all responsible are not held accountable in court would expect a haunting during sleep. Both illegal and legal, a child's death was preventable in a multitude of ways. (jk)
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Edited by - JK on 05/01/2009 6:27:35 PM |
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news
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Posted - 05/02/2009 : 08:17:26 AM
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Bus Driver Indicted In 7-Year-Old's Death
WSMV - #8206;May 1, 2009
McMINNVILLE, Tenn. -- Barbara Nunley is facing criminal indictments for reckless homicide, reckless endangerment, filing a false report and leaving the scene of a deadly accident...
Three other Warren County school employees who work in the repair shop are also facing indictments for tampering with evidence.
full story
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sbd37091
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mickibus329
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Posted - 05/05/2009 : 12:39:40 AM
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I THINK ALL SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE, SADLY NOT THE DRIVER WHO WAS PUT IN A SITUATION THAT SHOULD OF NEVER PRESENTED ITSELF!
THE BUS DRIVER NEEDS TO BE CHARGED FOR THIS POOR CHILDS DEATH, FOR THE MENTAL ANGUISH THOSE 30 SOME STUDENTS ALREADY ON BOARD HAVE NOW FOR WATCHING THIER CLASSMATE GET HIT AND HURLED 30 SOME FEET INTO THE AIR. FOR LEAVING THE SCENE OF A ACCIDENT, ANOTHER QUESTION.. DID SHE JUST ROLL INTO THE SCHOOL AND DROP 30 KIDS OFF WITHOUT SAYNG A WORD?
WHAT WAS SHE THINKING, SMOKING OR DRINKING??? HMM DUE TO THE FACT OF A DEATH , SHE SHOULD OF BEEN SENT IN TO A BAC/DRUG TEST, SHE WENT DARN NEAR AGAINST EVERY RULE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS OUT NOT TO MENTION THE STATE.
NOW THE MECHANICS... I SEE THEM BEING GOOD OLD BOYS KNOWN T HIS DRIVER FOREVER AND FIGURE THEY WAS HELPING HER OUT... SADLY THE FACT THE TOWN HAS THE STATE POLICE DO THE YEARLY SAFETY CHECKS TELLS ME THEY ARENT THE BRIGHTEST BULBS IN THE GARAGE. |
You can't scare me I AM a bus driver :-)
Always be safer then the next person ...
Micki
live each day as though it were to be your last, and one day you're sure to be right.
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bus724
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Posted - 05/05/2009 : 5:26:55 PM
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I have some questions, maybe I'm missing something in the articles.
First, why is the driver of the car not being charged with anything? I can understand not charging with passing the bus, but I thought pedestrians ALWAYS have the right of way. Wouldn't this at least be a vehicular manslaughter charge?
Second, is there a legal requirement for crossing students to wait for a signal in TN? Here in CT we're required by law to instruct students to wait for the bus driver's signal before crossing (a nod of the head). I'm aware of similar laws in other states, with variations on the actual safe-to-cross signal. I have 4 year old pre-schoolers who learned this rule in less than a week with constant verbal reminders from the driver and parents.
I'm also curious about a few details that seem to be missing from the news articles. The bus driver is being charged with leaving the scene...did she actually drive around the struck student and finish her route? Call it in and then take off? Was the driver watching traffic front and rear and alert enough to at least blow the horn?
If the information reported is accurate, I find it extremely hard to believe that a person capable of passing the minimum CDL requirements could show such poor judgement. Even companies/districts with the worst training and hiring standards teach their "sheep" better than this. |
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littlebit
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Posted - 05/28/2009 : 9:19:32 PM
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Second, is there a legal requirement for crossing students to wait for a signal in TN.
I have never heard of it being a legal requirement here in TN. We are trained to give a signal to let the children know that its safe to cross to the bus.
So sad, so many things that could have prevented this child from dying needlessly. |
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sbd37091
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Posted - 05/29/2009 : 7:22:12 PM
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| Littlebit.... Did you used to work at HQ in Lewisburg? |
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littlebit
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Posted - 05/29/2009 : 9:24:35 PM
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| No I have always worked in West TN. |
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JK
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Posted - 05/30/2009 : 6:53:54 PM
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Originally posted by littlebit
... So sad, so many things that could have prevented this child from dying needlessly.
I agree. There were options, both legal and illegal that would have prevented the child's death. So much becomes routine and the feeling that 'it will never happen to me' or with my bus or one of my kids too often prevails. Have made my share of mistakes without tragedy -- and the multitude of times kids have erred also without serious consequence promotes excuse to easing up on the expectations. I'm amazed at all that goes on daily and no injury or death the result. 10,000 mistakes - nothing happens - 10001 brings a death claimed shocking. Two routes at two hours each involve 14,400 seconds. Not one bus driver can claim diligence during each and every one of those seconds. Any single second missed is adequate for a tragedy to happen. How much more possible when poor training, poor support, daily routine and distraction numbs the mind to complacency? My own diligence has much to do with access to the events reported in this forum, a deadfall reminder to stay diligent even when believing nothing will happen. We here at least have the opportunity to learn from the mistakes that others make, to know that death is nearby waiting for an opportunity, and to remember that when under similar circumstances to make a decision that keeps the child safe. (jk)
Policy Development Sheet: – School Bus Code of Conduct - Click Here for Link
There is no school bus driver shortage!
Properly train, effective support and pay that retains. |
Edited by - JK on 05/30/2009 7:28:26 PM |
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