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AMTK207
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Posted - 01/29/2008 :  5:01:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit AMTK207's Homepage  Send AMTK207 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Hello everyone,

I ride a bus with First Student in Batavia, IL. Our bus has a Kenwood two-way radio installed, two channels. I am wondering if anyone has any information on where I might be able to find out how to listen in to communications via a radio scanner at home? All I know about the radio system they use is that they are Kenwoods, and the radios are two-channel.

Thanks,
Michael

First Student 224933: 2003 Thomas Minotour, T444E/7.3l Powerstroke Diesel engine, white roof/tinted windows, front/rear AC

Bus9709
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Posted - 01/29/2008 :  5:31:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit Bus9709's Homepage  Click to see Bus9709's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Well, first you'd have to find what channel or frequency (One or both, I stink at naming things. XD) they're on. Though I know some school districts wouldn't like someone listening in to the conversations made on the radios.
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93CarpFord#11
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Try this website: http://www.cityfreq.com . It has a bunch of radio frequencies on it.

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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 01/29/2008 :  5:34:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC RE 1629's Homepage  Send IC RE 1629 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
This may be what your looking for:
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?ctid=635#cid-8636

I looks like your buses are on 155.2950.

A standard Radio Shack scanner should do the trick. I recommend a simple Pro-82 model. See this link: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2049661&cp=2032052.2032072&parentPage=family

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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 01/29/2008 :  5:37:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC RE 1629's Homepage  Send IC RE 1629 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 93CarpFord#11

Try this website: http://www.cityfreq.com . It has a bunch of radio frequencies on it.



www.radioreference.com has alot better and more complete information. They have information on trunked radio systems as well. More urban areas use trunked radio systems for greater efficiency. So far, Radio Reference is probably the only site with complete databases for thousands of locations all over the U.S.

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BlueBirdMan
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Posted - 01/29/2008 :  7:25:32 PM  Show Profile  Send BlueBirdMan an AOL message  Reply with Quote
radioreference.com is definitely the best place to find frequencies, if not the FCC frequency search would help. I bought a radio shack pro-94 and I love it. Listening to everything on there is a lot of fun.

Bring back the "backing" sign!
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n/a
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Posted - 01/30/2008 :  3:00:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IC RE 1629


I looks like your buses are on 155.2950.




Hey Michael. I have a Pro-94 scanner. I would not choose the 82 because you have 5 choice buttons, air, police, train, wheather, and something else. I would ask someone what your bus's channel(in mega hertz) My aunt's bus company has a 12 or 14 channel Kenwood radios from around 1999-2000. We are on channel 9- 155.295. If you do choose the pro-94, it is really durrable. I have dropped it quite a few times, cracked the screen a little, and have loosened the antenna and it still is in perfect shape for 3 years old. They do still sell Pro-94's in the store. Do not choose the Pro-84. I used to have it and it is not great. There are many web site you can find off of google to find the listings but it looks like radio reference already works. Good luck!

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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 01/30/2008 :  3:28:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC RE 1629's Homepage  Send IC RE 1629 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Be sure to check scanner laws for your state as well. Some states do not allow scanners.

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Jake
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Posted - 01/30/2008 :  4:10:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IC RE 1629

Be sure to check scanner laws for your state as well. Some states do not allow scanners.


Where do you see these?
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 01/30/2008 :  5:29:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC RE 1629's Homepage  Send IC RE 1629 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Go to Google and type "scanner laws" as a search term.

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n/a
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Posted - 01/30/2008 :  6:11:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am sure that you would be fine if you don't buy the $500 dollar one with the actual PTT button built in.
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AMTK207
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Posted - 01/30/2008 :  8:05:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit AMTK207's Homepage  Send AMTK207 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Bingo! Nice find, IC RE 1629!


quote:
Originally posted by IC RE 1629

This may be what your looking for:
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?ctid=635#cid-8636

I looks like your buses are on 155.2950.

A standard Radio Shack scanner should do the trick. I recommend a simple Pro-82 model. See this link: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2049661&cp=2032052.2032072&parentPage=family


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dem84skeeprollinup
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Here in Indiana its Illegal to have a portable scanner unless you are an official or volunteer firefighter ect, so it would be a great idea to check your state and local laws. Same thing with radar detectors. I think radioreferance has the best lists. I havn't listened to my scanner besides NOAA frequencies in 3 years....lol

Do the world a favor and bring back GMC and Ford conventional chassis......

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AMTK207
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Posted - 01/30/2008 :  9:05:10 PM  Show Profile  Visit AMTK207's Homepage  Send AMTK207 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by the First Student guy

quote:
Originally posted by IC RE 1629


I looks like your buses are on 155.2950.




Hey Michael. I have a Pro-94 scanner. I would not choose the 82 because you have 5 choice buttons, air, police, train, wheather, and something else. I would ask someone what your bus's channel(in mega hertz) My aunt's bus company has a 12 or 14 channel Kenwood radios from around 1999-2000. We are on channel 9- 155.295. If you do choose the pro-94, it is really durrable. I have dropped it quite a few times, cracked the screen a little, and have loosened the antenna and it still is in perfect shape for 3 years old. They do still sell Pro-94's in the store. Do not choose the Pro-84. I used to have it and it is not great. There are many web site you can find off of google to find the listings but it looks like radio reference already works. Good luck!



I asked my driver what the model number for our radio was; she said that the only type of model number or designation she can find is just the name "Kenwood" and the number 10 below it. There are 2 "channels" that our company uses; the first one allows drivers to communicate with base, and the second one is just driver-to-driver. Might the "10" below the name "Kenwood" indicate that it is a 10-channel radio?

First Student 224933: 2003 Thomas Minotour, T444E/7.3l Powerstroke Diesel engine, white roof/tinted windows, front/rear AC
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AMTK207
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Posted - 01/30/2008 :  9:08:34 PM  Show Profile  Visit AMTK207's Homepage  Send AMTK207 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Also, those channels that our company uses are channels 1 and 2. If that "10" actually does designate the number of channels the radio has, does anyone know what channels 1 and 2 would translate to in MHZ?

First Student 224933: 2003 Thomas Minotour, T444E/7.3l Powerstroke Diesel engine, white roof/tinted windows, front/rear AC
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mat541mp
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Posted - 01/30/2008 :  10:08:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AMTK207

Also, those channels that our company uses are channels 1 and 2. If that "10" actually does designate the number of channels the radio has, does anyone know what channels 1 and 2 would translate to in MHZ?



Alright since I used to program radios..."10" likely does not designate how many channels it has. For most new model radios...the "channels" they operate on are fully programable. The radios are programmed to transmit and recieve on certain frequenices through software based on the frquencies the FCC assigns them. You can not tell the frequency of a radio simply by looking at it. You would either need software to "read" the radio, or a scanner...or you can check to see their license. Again this is assuming that it is a "newer" model radio.
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80-RE4
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Posted - 01/31/2008 :  04:29:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Become a bus driver if you really have the desire to listen to the conversations, then you'll end up lowering your radio and selling your scanners!
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n/a
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Posted - 01/31/2008 :  1:42:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, but us people who can't drive yet are very interested in what goes on when you get off the bus. I have called the bus company a few times because bus drivers were looking for a student, bus stop, ect. that I knew to correct an answer. I have a Motorola HT1000 radio that is from my aunt's base and I have tried charging it twice now and it doesn't turn on. can anyone help. I think it was overcharged and killed the battery
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 01/31/2008 :  3:25:37 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC RE 1629's Homepage  Send IC RE 1629 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Battery isn't holding a charge. Replace the battery.

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n/a
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Posted - 01/31/2008 :  6:09:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have found a page that sells them, but over $100!

http://www.radio-dealers.com/catalog/prodindex.cfm?pa=10001,10002,10719,10724&parent=10001,10002,10719,10724&taxonomyid=10724&taxonomylevel=5&did=5ee2379e-6374-46b8-b729-07ee0244388f&cat_id=10&tauth=BRANDED
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mat541mp
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Posted - 01/31/2008 :  6:35:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by the First Student guy

I have found a page that sells them, but over $100!

http://www.radio-dealers.com/catalog/prodindex.cfm?pa=10001,10002,10719,10724&parent=10001,10002,10719,10724&taxonomyid=10724&taxonomylevel=5&did=5ee2379e-6374-46b8-b729-07ee0244388f&cat_id=10&tauth=BRANDED



Um Did you actually read the page at all??? Those are Impres batteries...which are usually used by professionals. They are made to be specifically used with special Impres chargers.
Here is a standard ht-1000 battery for around $30-40.
http://www.copquest.com/31-0100.htm

mat
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n/a
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Posted - 01/31/2008 :  6:53:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Buddriver44, our buses also use Kenwoods. We have a variety of 3 different radios:

http://www.johnwrightassoc.com/images/kenwood/tk-863g.jpg

http://www.vertex-sety.ru/image_db/tk_715_815.jpg

http://www.d-d-s.nl/foto-kenwood/spc-ken-tk760860.gif

All of the radios have this microphone http://www.radio.com.hk/Ken_Mic_6Pin_a.JPG

I don't know what the new radio for the office is, but the old one was a Vertex. Also, for the new contract of buses we got, all I know is that they have Motorola Mobile radios.

Edited by - n/a on 09/13/2008 07:02:42 AM
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NathanW
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Posted - 09/13/2008 :  11:53:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You'd have to check out all the above links.

However, I work for First Student in Lancaster, NH and they are actually using a fire department frequency. "Med. 4" which is an unused frequency. How do I know? Because I'm a FF/EMT with the local fire department too.

First Student here is looking to hook up a scanner to scan the fire department and ambulance frequencies so they know when there are emergencies at the schools. We've had several times when there would be a fire alarm activation just as the busses are getting ready to arrive at the school. The schools/fire department prefer if we stage away from the school until the scene is cleared by the fire department.

Nathan--Driver Extraordinaire
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n/a
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Posted - 09/13/2008 :  1:40:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It shows that Lancaster FD is 154.455 or 155.595. That is what it shows online. Did you guys think of going a channel down/up so you arent talking on their frequency? Another question, do they hear what your bus co. says? But it says that the bus company's channel for White Mountains Regional School District is on 155.280.

Edited by - n/a on 09/13/2008 1:45:35 PM
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NathanW
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Posted - 09/13/2008 :  2:06:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
155.280 is the frequency used by First Student, but that frequency is "owned" by the Lancaster Fire Department/State of New Hampshire. They just don't use it.

Not all of the Fire Department radios can listen to First Student (mine isn't programmed to, which irritates me), and NONE of the bus radios are programmed to listen to the fire department.

As for changing frequencies....not gonna happen. Too much red tape involved by the state and federal government.

Nathan--Driver Extraordinaire
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