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Rich
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Posted - 12/14/2001 :  7:15:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If a school bus was driving on a normal city road with a 30 MPH, how fast should they really go??? My bus drivers go 50 MPH on a Thomas EF, so it bounces like hell due to the messed up center of gravity!

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Thomasbus24
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Posted - 12/15/2001 :  06:11:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
While it may be an annoyance, if it says 30 MPH...I would say you better go 30 and no more! Imagine if a bus going 50 in a 30 zone hit a car or pedestrian, the police determined it was traveling 20 miles over the legal limit....LOOK OUT DRIVER AND DISTRICT!

And those Thomas EF's, I've seen two of our three break front main leaf springs from going too fast on our country roads and getting to bouncing like that. Dangerous for sure.

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Phil4747
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USA
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Posted - 12/15/2001 :  06:52:27 AM  Show Profile  Send Phil4747 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
No school bus should ever drive faster than the posted speed limit. In a lot of situations they need to go slower, especially on curves or in less-than-ideal conditions. There's been a lot of debate about the fastest safe speed for buses on the freeway, but I've never heard anyone say faster than the posted limit. The driver doing 50 in a 30 is insane, it's incredibly dangerous and probably damaging the bus a lot too.

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mr.dave
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USA
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Posted - 12/15/2001 :  06:53:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mr. daves top 10 reasons not to speed in your bus.
#10: The police don't want you to speed.
#9: Your boss does't want you to speed.
#8: Speeding is bad karma.
#7: Speeding buses are poor public relations.
#6: Speeding tickets cost you money.
#5: Speeding tickets can cost you your job.
#4: Speeding tickets will cost you your license.
#3: Speeding could cause you to fail to avoid an accident.
#2: Speeding will cause you to have an accident.
#1: The slower you drive the more you get paid.

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Buskid
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USA
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Posted - 12/15/2001 :  08:27:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
If a school bus was driving on a normal city road with a 30 MPH, how fast should they really go??? My bus drivers go 50 MPH on a Thomas EF, so it bounces like hell due to the messed up center of gravity!


How fast should they really go? The posted speed limit.

No need for me to repeat the points everyone else has already mentioned. I wouldn't go 50 MPH in a 30 MPH zone in my bus. What's the point? I'm in no hurry.

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BlueBird44
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Posted - 12/15/2001 :  10:05:45 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Simple Question the bus should go the posted speed limit.It could cause you to get a ticket or to harm a student.If the driver dosen't want to loose there job they shouldn't speed.

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kd4jfd
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USA
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Posted - 12/15/2001 :  10:17:09 AM  Show Profile  Click to see kd4jfd's MSN Messenger address  Send kd4jfd a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:

#2: Speeding will cause you to have an accident.

Mr. Dave, I must disagree with you on this one. If speed caused accidents, why are there so many race car drivers? Or airplane pilots? or even those people who drive in the HOV lane? Now, I belive that speed is a contributing factor to the accident and its severity, but not the cause.

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thomasvista2012
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USA
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Posted - 12/15/2001 :  7:58:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On residential and surface streets, school buses should go the limit. Maybe 5 mph over at the most to keep up with traffic unless the bus will be stopping frequently.

Okay now, on the expressway you have a problem. We have buses that travel on I-95, which is the Indy 500 for cars going down the I about 80 mph. Since a bus in FL can only go 55, there is a problem. The bus is legally doing the limit, but at the same time, it is impeding the flow of traffic, which can be hazardous.

Now, it's not right for cars to be speeding like that and possibly causing an accident by trying to pass a school bus going the limit, but speeding will always be a problem.

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mr.dave
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USA
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Posted - 12/16/2001 :  05:35:45 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My defence of the #2 reason not to speed.
40 to 50 cars will start a race. In the course of the race several will hit the wall, or another car. Some of the race car drivers are better drivers than your tipical schoolbus driver. Most race cars handle even better than a school bus. Also racecar drivers are limited in speed in the pit lanes where a group of guys are waiting to jump off the curb just as soon as the car stops, emulating a school bus stop as much as anything in nascar. Planes also speed on the runways, but they have to if they are to get off the ground. Also they are not allowed to pass one another on the runway or stop to pick up passengers there. As for HOV lanes, there you have me I won't even try to act like I understand them. -love dave

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busguy34
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USA
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Posted - 12/16/2001 :  06:37:45 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
while working for laidlaw years ago.we went to phila. to bring back buses to be sold at auction.there was this ugly beat up 1981 ford b700 wayne bus with a 429 cu.inch engine in it.the bus had on its hood a ltd emblem,we where all laughing at it but the guy at the garage said it will do a hundred easy. after i got on the turnpike it did almost that around 95.that bus was awsome

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Silas J.
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USA
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Posted - 12/16/2001 :  2:47:19 PM  Show Profile  Send Silas J. an AOL message  Send Silas J. an ICQ Message  Click to see Silas J.'s MSN Messenger address  Send Silas J. a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Thomas 86-A and Wagonmaster of So.Florida:Remember that little "Whose bus is the fastest" dissucsion sparked by my profile signiture?Looks like the bus in the last post would win.Wagonmaster1490:Didn't that '81 Ford have a speed regulator?
Silas J.

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Silas J.
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Posted - 12/16/2001 :  2:48:34 PM  Show Profile  Send Silas J. an AOL message  Send Silas J. an ICQ Message  Click to see Silas J.'s MSN Messenger address  Send Silas J. a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
busguy 34 not Wagonmaster1490.
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Rich
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United States
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Posted - 12/17/2001 :  1:02:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for your input everyone. I'll be sure to contact the bus company.

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