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kentuckynascar1
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Posted - 09/27/2006 :  01:38:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 92WardSenatorFE

sorry for bringing up an old topic.

I was wondering... Can anyone help me fill out this chart of what buses everyone purchased in Kentucky? It'll really help me for a research project.
2006= IC, Thomas
2005= IC, Thomas
2004= IC, Thomas
2003= IC, Thomas
2002= IC
2001= IC, Blue Bird
2000= AmTran
1999= AmTran
1998= AmTran / Crown by Carpenter
1997= AmTran
1996= AmTran / Blue Bird
1995= AmTran/ Carpenter
1994= AmTran
1993= Ward/ AmTran
1992= Ward/ Wayne
1991= Blue Bird, Carpenter
1990= Wayne
1989= Ward/ Blue Bird
1988= Wayne
1987= Carpenter
1986= Wayne
1985= Wayne
1984= Wayne
1983= Blue Bird
1982= Blue Bird
1981= Wayne
1980= Carpenter
1979=
1978= Ward
1977= Superior (Ford)
1976=
1975=
1974=
1973=
1972=
1971=
1970=
1969= Wayne (Welles)

Try to fill in some gaps! :)

~Jake~


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Also in 97, Blue Birds were bought. Fayette Co. bought some for the special needs buses
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Jake
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Posted - 09/27/2006 :  5:29:30 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks! I know we have some 1996 Ford Birdys that are special needs!

~Jake~
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ThomasER0005
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Posted - 09/27/2006 :  8:18:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The year 2000 was also Thomas.

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Jake
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Posted - 10/19/2006 :  5:47:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Did any KY districts ever purchase any Wayne FE's or Carp. FE's / cadets or anything odd?

~Jake~
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kentuckynascar1
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Posted - 10/22/2006 :  3:47:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I believe 02 was also Blue Birds, since I have seen some with 02 as the numbers
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Jake
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Posted - 10/22/2006 :  5:24:30 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks :)

I got cha!
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ThomasER0005
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Posted - 10/26/2006 :  10:22:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is anyone familiar with the Pulaski Co. school buses? I was up there the other day and seen some 1998 Thomas ER's. They had the dual headlights with the black around them.

I believe Warren Co. has some 2000 Crown by Carpenter school buses.

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School Bus 7
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Posted - 10/26/2006 :  1:31:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I Seen a 2006 Thomas Saf-T-Liner HDX in Martin County, KY and I seen a Saf-T-Liner C2 somewhere in Southeast KY.
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Jake
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Posted - 10/26/2006 :  5:26:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've seen 06' HDX's and 03's. I've seen the 06 in Christian County, and the 03' in Owensboro.

Those buses are really interesting, ThomasER. an anyone confirm these, that'd be a sight to see!
~Jake~
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Buskid
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Posted - 10/26/2006 :  5:47:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit Buskid's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 92WardSenatorFE

I've seen 06' HDX's and 03's. I've seen the 06 in Christian County, and the 03' in Owensboro.

Darn, I missed seeing any Thomas HDXs when I was in Owensboro a couple of years ago. Maybe they hadn't received them yet. It seems they were still running Wards and Waynes with some new (at the time) International REs when I was in the area.

I need to start paying better attention to the buses when I'm across the border in Kentucky.
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Jake
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Posted - 10/26/2006 :  6:20:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The 2003 I saw was in Louisville, My city when I saw it, but it said clearly on it " Owensboro Independent School District #603" Its on my website.

Also, a lot of ppl still have Waynes and Wards. We still use our 1990 IHC Waynes, and 1993 IHC Ward/ Amtrans (Yes, some of these "Amtrans" actually say Ward, and have the WARD logo. We have about 10, and then it goes to AmTrans. Last ones built? I dunno.

We also have about 10-20 1996 Ford AmTrans, which is rare. Also some 96' Ford Blue Birds, which are handy spec.

~Jake~

Edited by - Jake on 10/26/2006 6:22:14 PM
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ThomasER0005
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Posted - 10/26/2006 :  8:37:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll try to take a picture of some of those Thomas ER's next time I'm up in Pulaski Co.

We still have some Waynes in service, and also our Ward Senators.

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Jake
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Posted - 10/27/2006 :  02:54:24 AM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey, did you ever get the pictures uploaded of our 1988 Ford Waynes you found? If you did, i'd love to see em plz!

~Jake~
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ThomasER0005
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Posted - 12/03/2006 :  9:31:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Has anyone seen the buses with the signs on the rear yey that Chris was talking about?

Ive seen a few in south central Ky and several in the Fayette Co. area.

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Jake
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Posted - 12/04/2006 :  02:50:04 AM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Nope. None in my area. Haven't seen any of the changes take effect.
~Jake~
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kentuckynascar1
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Posted - 12/04/2006 :  8:15:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fayette County has theirs on the road. Will try to get a pic when I find my digital camera
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Chris
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Posted - 12/05/2006 :  6:54:32 PM  Show Profile  Visit Chris's Homepage  Send Chris an AOL message  Click to see Chris's MSN Messenger address  Send Chris a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Kool? blah there's nothing "kool" about an ugly sign being posted on our buses.

Edited by - Chris on 12/05/2006 6:55:16 PM
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Jake
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Posted - 01/24/2007 :  5:32:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well, I've got to see the STOP on the back of buses. Our new 2007 Freightliner Thomases have it on the back.

Its like this:
{Stop sign image} (then beside) STOP WHEN RED LIGHTS FLASH.

I think its ok. Like it better than how Ohio does it (No offense).

Anyone notice all the IC's from KY in the news? Theirs been one in our paper EVERY DAY this week!

~Jake~



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Jake
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Posted - 07/14/2007 :  08:44:33 AM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
(Sorry I brought back up a old topic, everyone)

I am trying to solve a puzzle.

Does anyone know if Kentucky bought Wards in the year 1990? I know they did in 1989, but I've seen a LOT of 66 Passenger Wards (INTL 3800's) without side exit doors, and I know for sure they became required in 1991. Could they just be late 1989s? Sorry, I have one photographed, and its bothering me due to I know my district owned about 300??? (maybe a lot less) of them at one time and numbered with differently without including the buses Model Year within the #. They were all retired about 2002, way before I became in the bus industry. Can anyone shed some light on this?

Also if anyone can help fill in the chart in this topic about what Buses were bought between 1970-1979, it can help a lot. I know Carpenters were bought sometime in the late 60s, but no idea when.

Also if someone could shed light on when the 8 way warning system was required in KY, it would be helpful to me too.

Thanks,
-Jake

Edited by - Jake on 07/14/2007 08:44:58 AM
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kentuckynascar1
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Posted - 07/14/2007 :  2:19:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think in 90, it was Wayne, becuase that was the first year that the roof hatches were mandatory. My old district got about 7 of those and they were put in service around April of that year.
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Jake
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Posted - 07/14/2007 :  5:59:05 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kentuckynascar1

I think in 90, it was Wayne, becuase that was the first year that the roof hatches were mandatory. My old district got about 7 of those and they were put in service around April of that year.



I also forgot to add these Wards had roof hatches too.


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kentuckynascar1
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Posted - 07/15/2007 :  09:06:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Never seen a Ward in Ky without the door with hatches. Very interesting.
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2004icfe
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Posted - 09/15/2010 :  2:05:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'M From Eastern Kentucky
and I Just Found Something Interesting

http://odss.education.ky.gov/businventory/
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Jake
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Posted - 09/15/2010 :  6:29:31 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 2004icfe

I'M From Eastern Kentucky
and I Just Found Something Interesting

http://odss.education.ky.gov/businventory/



Hi there! I love hearing from new people from Kentucky.

I have an entire section of my website dedicated to buses from Kentucky.
http://busweb.22web.net/

What part of the state are you from?


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2004icfe
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Posted - 09/15/2010 :  7:31:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's Mike I Decided to Join the School Bus Fleet Forums

I'm From Ashland, KY
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Jake
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Posted - 09/15/2010 :  7:55:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 2004icfe

It's Mike I Decided to Join the School Bus Fleet Forums

I'm From Ashland, KY





NEVERMIND I know who you are now lol. Yeah welcome to SBF .





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2004icfe
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Posted - 09/15/2010 :  8:22:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jake

sorry for bringing up an old topic.

I was wondering... Can anyone help me fill out this chart of what buses everyone purchased in Kentucky? It'll really help me for a research project.
2006= IC, Thomas
2005= IC, Thomas
2004= IC, Thomas
2003= IC, Thomas
2002= IC
2001= IC, Blue Bird
2000= AmTran
1999= AmTran
1998= AmTran / Crown by Carpenter
1997= AmTran
1996= AmTran / Blue Bird
1995= AmTran/ Carpenter
1994= AmTran
1993= Ward/ AmTran
1992= Ward/ Wayne
1991= Blue Bird, Carpenter
1990= Wayne
1989= Ward/ Blue Bird
1988= Wayne
1987= Carpenter
1986= Wayne
1985= Wayne
1984= Wayne
1983= Blue Bird
1982= Blue Bird
1981= Wayne
1980= Carpenter
1979=
1978= Ward
1977= Superior (Ford)
1976=
1975=
1974=
1973=
1972=
1971=
1970=
1969= Wayne (Welles)

Try to fill in some gaps! :)

~Jake~


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THANKS FOR ALL THE INFO! I VERY WELL APPRICIATE IT




Kentucky has 1999 Blue Bird FS-65's 66 Pass. although about 10 KY School Districts has it and its a rare bus.

and 2000 has some Thomas

Edited by - 2004icfe on 09/15/2010 10:50:29 PM
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Jake
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Posted - 09/16/2010 :  03:25:43 AM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah, obviously thats an old list. I've still been trying to find some 1999 Freight BB's floating around but no pics online, yet. (I take that back I found one but it was really small and you only saw enough to identify it as a FS). 98, 99, 00+ were Thomas years. Actually 95 was a Thomas year apparently, a district runs a 95 Saf-T-Liner ER, i'd be interested in seeing that also!


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Thomasbus24
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Posted - 10/04/2010 :  3:51:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 2004icfe

It's Mike I Decided to Join the School Bus Fleet Forums

I'm From Ashland, KY



Stay away from Greenup County you Boyd Countyian!!!! Hahaha...used to live there myself.
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2004icfe
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Posted - 10/22/2010 :  8:37:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I Can Update this Purchased List In Kentucky

2010= IC,Thomas
2009= IC, Thomas, Blue Bird (2010)
2008= IC, Thomas, Blue Bird (2009)
2007= IC, Thomas (2008)
2006= IC, Thomas
2005= IC, Thomas
2004= IC, Thomas
2003= IC, Thomas
2002= IC, Thomas, Blue Bird
2001= IC, Thomas, Blue Bird
2000= Amtran, Thomas, Blue Bird
1999= Amtran, Blue Bird (Frieghtliner), Thomas (ER)
1998= Amtran, Crown By Carpenter, Thomas (ER)
1997= Amtran, Blue Bird
1996= Amtran, Blue Bird
1995= Amtran, Carpenter
1994= Amtran, Carpenter
1993= Amtran/Ward
1992= Ward, Wayne
1991= Blue Bird, Ward (Senator FE)
1990= Wayne, Ward
1989= Blue Bird, Ward
1988= Wayne
1987= Carpenter
1986= Wayne
1985= Wayne
1984= Wayne
1983= Blue Bird
1982= Blue Bird
1981= Wayne
1980= Carpenter
1979= Wayne
1978= Superior (Ford)
1977= Wayne
1976=
1975=
1974=
1973=
1972=
1971=
1970=
1969= Wayne



Edited by - 2004icfe on 10/22/2010 8:43:09 PM
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JRob
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Posted - 10/25/2010 :  05:16:00 AM  Show Profile  Visit JRob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
1976 = Superior
Based on the fact that the Carrollton bus was a '76 Superior on a Ford chassis and it was purchased just ahead of the '77 school bus construction modifications, I think the assumption can be made that Superior was awarded the contract in '76.
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Jake
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Posted - 10/25/2010 :  06:40:50 AM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JRob

1976 = Superior
Based on the fact that the Carrollton bus was a '76 Superior on a Ford chassis and it was purchased just ahead of the '77 school bus construction modifications, I think the assumption can be made that Superior was awarded the contract in '76.



Correct. Forgot about that. 1978 is actually a Ward year, Superior is incorrect. 2010 also has BB in the bid also.
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2004icfe
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Posted - 10/25/2010 :  1:16:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
2010= IC,Thomas, Blue Bird
2009= IC, Thomas, Blue Bird (2010)
2008= IC, Thomas, Blue Bird (2009)
2007= IC, Thomas (2008)
2006= IC, Thomas
2005= IC, Thomas
2004= IC, Thomas
2003= IC, Thomas
2002= IC, Thomas, Blue Bird
2001= IC, Thomas, Blue Bird
2000= Amtran, Thomas, Blue Bird
1999= Amtran, Blue Bird (Frieghtliner), Thomas (ER)
1998= Amtran, Crown By Carpenter, Thomas (ER)
1997= Amtran, Blue Bird
1996= Amtran, Blue Bird
1995= Amtran, Carpenter
1994= Amtran, Carpenter
1993= Amtran/Ward
1992= Ward, Wayne
1991= Blue Bird, Ward (Senator FE)
1990= Wayne, Ward
1989= Blue Bird, Ward
1988= Wayne
1987= Carpenter
1986= Wayne
1985= Wayne
1984= Wayne
1983= Blue Bird
1982= Blue Bird
1981= Wayne
1980= Carpenter
1979= Wayne
1978= Ward
1977= Wayne, Superior
1976= Superior
1975=
1974=
1973=
1972=
1971=
1970=
1969= Wayne




Edited by - 2004icfe on 10/25/2010 1:18:43 PM
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benzguy1986
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Posted - 01/19/2011 :  12:42:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit benzguy1986's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I live in Ashland, Ky and have been a teacher and bus driver since 1986. I will try and fill in bids for Ky school buses since 1966. Around 1980 on is where it gets dicey as most districts had a choice of two body manufacturers and at least two chassis manufacturers.

1966 - wayne/international
1967 - wayne/international
1968 - carpenter/international
1969 - wayne/ford
1970 - ward/ford
1971 - carpenter/international
1972 - carpenter/international - '71 and '72 differ in shape of warning light reflectors, seats were brown but had metal backs on '71s and '71s had chrome poles behind the driver and connected to the modesty panel
1973 - wayne/ford or international
1974 - carpenter/ford or international - mostly based on body size
1975 - ward/ford on 66 pass. and international on smaller bodies
1976 - wayne/internationl
1977 - superior/ford - this was the year and model of the former meade county bus that was involved in the carrollton bus crash
to my knowledge this is the only time that superior buses were ordered for kentucky EXCEPT for van conversions from the 1980s
1978 - ward/ford for 66 passenger - international for smaller and handicapped buses - i am almost sure that some schools ordered the type "b" buses for smaller routes.
1979 - wayne/chevrolet - to my knowledge (other than the '50s and early '60s) this is the only time chevrolet chassis were used in kentucky. many of these buses were delivered to sam cummins chevrolet in paris,ky for pick up to individual districts.
1980 - this is where it gets dicey carpenter or ward/ford
1981 - wayne/international
1982 - bluebird/ford
1983 - bluebird/ford for gasoline, international for diesel
1984 - wayne/ford (possibly international)
1985 - wayne/ford(gasoline)or international(diesel)
1986 - carpenter/ford(gasoline)or international(diesel)
1987 - wayne/international diesel or ford gas
1988 - bluebird/international or ward/international depending on body size
1989 - wayne/international
1990 - ward senators - this is the first time kentucky used "d" type buses
1991 - wayne/international
1992 - ward/international
1993 - amtran/international - however, many smaller buses still said "ward"
1994 ward/international
1995 - carpenter/international or ford - pretty sure all of these were from the mitchell,indiana plant
1996 - amtran/international or ford
1997 - same
1998 - bluebird/international
from here on it is anybodies guess. freightliner/thomas and thomas type "D" buses were ordered as well as amtran/IC corp buses with internationals. however, there are some school districts that ordered freightliner/crown conventionals.
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Jake
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Posted - 01/19/2011 :  1:56:49 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
THANK YOU so much for the information! That is an awesome knowledge of the states history, and really I haven't heard much about Kentucky buses from before 1985. They definitely had some interesting options!

I did find something quite interesting looking at the state inventory, Woodford County Schools operates a 1996 Thomas Transit (not sure RE or FE) at a 75 passenger capacity. To my knowledge, Thomas wasn't offered in 1996 (or bidded on for the most part). The oldest bus that I have seen in operation from the bid is a 1980 Ford Carpenter which has been converted into a band bus (Erangler).

Also, does anyone know of any D3 RE's operating in Kentucky? I know they were on the bid this year, however they didn't approved the D3 for the BB FE bid.

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