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ThomasER0005
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Posted - 02/28/2006 :  8:54:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I decided to start a Kentucky School Buses thread. It felt as if we were hijacking Fairfax's thread with all those posts made about the KY buses. If you have any intresting facts, news, or pics feel free to post it.

This should become interesting!

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Buskid
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Posted - 02/28/2006 :  10:05:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit Buskid's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Not that other topics haven't bled into others . . .

I don't have many pictures of Kentucky school buses, even though I lived relatively close to the border between Indiana and Kentucky. Most of the pictures from Kentucky that I do have are fence-shots (such as the ones from Owensboro). If anyone else has pictures of Kentucky-spec'd. AmTran/International/IC REs, I'd be interested in seeing them.
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ThomasER0005
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Posted - 03/01/2006 :  05:00:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I will try to get some as soon as I can.

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2006.AAFE.#21
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Posted - 03/01/2006 :  11:52:48 AM  Show Profile  Visit 2006.AAFE.#21's Homepage  Send 2006.AAFE.#21 an AOL message  Click to see 2006.AAFE.#21's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i will love ANY pix of KY buses!!!

Rider of Bus 25, a 2007 Blue Bird All American FE, and Bus 24, a 2009 Blue Bird All American FE.
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Jake
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Posted - 03/01/2006 :  12:16:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I live in Louisville, KY and I have a ton of pictures of Jefferson County's buses. Such as one of our old 1988 Ford Waynes (I wish I got more), a couple IHC Waynes, So many, I cannot list all.
I am going to a state wide convention tommarrow, (BETA CLUB) and I plan on trying to get pictures of some new 2006 IC-RE's I've seen roaming around. Nice.

I also got a crap load of Indiana bus pictures, including 2 buses that date back to the 1940s (But thats off the point).

I love KY. Down in Breckenridge their's a ton of older buses, such as 1960s/1970s Superiors, A IN Carpenter GMC (1960s), and a older 1970s Ford Ward (I have pictures of those 2).

Does any one have pictures of the old 1969 IHC? Welles that dominated KY a while back?

I'd love to see any and all!!!!!

~Jake~

Note:
Their are also some older KY buses on ebay currently:
1992 Ward Senator FE:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Classic-Yellow-Transit-School-Bus-Side-No-281_W0QQitemZ4617266537QQcategoryZ6728QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
1991 IHC Carpenter:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Classic-Yellow-School-Bus-Side-No-1_W0QQitemZ4617256753QQcategoryZ6728QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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ThomasER0005
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Posted - 03/01/2006 :  5:02:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jake, you will probably see one of our buses roaming around up there, keep an eye out for it!

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Jake
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Posted - 03/01/2006 :  5:27:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What district are ya ThomasER0005??

~Jake~
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kentuckynascar1
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Posted - 03/01/2006 :  5:37:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 92WardSenatorFE
Note:
Their are also some older KY buses on ebay currently:
1992 Ward Senator FE:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Classic-Yellow-Transit-School-Bus-Side-No-281_W0QQitemZ4617266537QQcategoryZ6728QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
1991 IHC Carpenter:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Classic-Yellow-School-Bus-Side-No-1_W0QQitemZ4617256753QQcategoryZ6728QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



I actually put those on the buy and sell forum.
Also, has anyone noticed the unique reverse lights on the buses since 97?
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ThomasER0005
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Posted - 03/01/2006 :  5:42:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 92WardSenatorFE

What district are ya ThomasER0005??

~Jake~



Clinton County.

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Jake
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Posted - 03/01/2006 :  5:50:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kentuckynascar1

quote:
Originally posted by 92WardSenatorFE
Note:
Their are also some older KY buses on ebay currently:
1992 Ward Senator FE:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Classic-Yellow-Transit-School-Bus-Side-No-281_W0QQitemZ4617266537QQcategoryZ6728QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
1991 IHC Carpenter:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Classic-Yellow-School-Bus-Side-No-1_W0QQitemZ4617256753QQcategoryZ6728QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem




I actually put those on the buy and sell forum.
Also, has anyone noticed the unique reverse lights on the buses since 97?



I noticed actually after I posted that.

ThomasER0005 - I'll be watching.

Yes, I have actually noticed that too. They became square, and next to the area where the liscense plate is supposed to go. Hmm. I think many states did that.

~Jake~
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ThomasER0005
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Posted - 03/02/2006 :  3:13:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well Jake, did you see and manage to get any pics of the buses you saw?

Did you see any 2006 IC-RE's?

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Jake
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Posted - 03/03/2006 :  07:36:23 AM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
OMG! I had a blast! Sorry, didn't see any of your buses, ThomasER.

Buses I got pictures of: (all buses are KY spec, unless noted)
1989 Ward Vanguard (Not affiliated with convention)
2001 Freightliner BB (Not affiliated with conv.)
2003 Thomas EF
1999 or 2000 AmTran RE (2 pictures)
2006 IC-FE (The highlight of the trip, front view only)
1992 Ward Senator FE (My 2nd highlight, 2-3 Pictures)
1994 AmTran Genisis FE (my 3rd highlight)
1993 International AmTran
2001 IC-CE
The Rest: (Didn't get pictures of)
2 1993 International AmTrans
2003 Thomas EF
2006 IC-CE
1991 Ward Senator FE
2 1999 IHC Amtran's
2 2001 IC-CE's
1998 AmTran Genisis
1992 IHC Wayne
2 1990s IHC Blue Birds (IN/ Ohio spec)
1999/2000 Thomas RE
We rode in
A 1992 IHC AmTran for Millers Transportation INC.


It was such a blast. I loved the 2006 IC-FE. It was amazing. I only got a front view tho., (No sides, or rear shown in photo).

Me and my friends (who have been inspired into buses by me) played a game to see how many buses we could get on my cam. Too bad I didn't get all of them. I loved the Senator too. I got driveby's of it. From the rear of our Wayne. We even got a interior shot of bus, cause when it was up beside us, my friend took a picture through the door/ that window in front of the door.

I'll put the pictures up through out the year. (On my site's updates) due to, I need all the pictures I can get.
If anyone has any pictures of any buses that they'd like to submit, please email me @ fordwayne1988@yahoo.com (please DONT attach picture/ insert it in the email. I will NOT open it if you do, and it'd be deleted).
Requirements:
-Must be a clear photo, of any quality (drive-by, etc), but you still have to be able to reconize the bus in the pic).
-Must be under 100kb
YOU MUST ALSO INCLUDE:
-Year
-Model/ Chassis/ Body
-Owner
-Picture Location
- Your Name (I must have a real first name/ perfered last name or initial.)

Thanks,
~Jake~
Must be a bus.

Edited by - Jake on 03/03/2006 07:38:20 AM
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ThomasER0005
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Posted - 03/03/2006 :  2:31:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds like you had fun seeing all of those buses. Cant wait to see the pictures.

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ThomasER0005
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Posted - 03/04/2006 :  8:45:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wonder if many (or any) districts will be trying out the Thomas C2?

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kentuckynascar1
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Posted - 03/06/2006 :  8:16:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm sure there will be some in Eastern KY that will get the C2s.
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kentuckynascar1
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Posted - 03/13/2006 :  5:43:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is official-Fayette County KY has gone IC again, I have seen some of their buses-06 IC FE300s and CE-300s (special needs buses). I'll try to get some pics soon.
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ThomasER0005
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Posted - 03/13/2006 :  7:37:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Our district (Clinton County) has gone IC again also. We got 2 2006 IC-CE 300's setting at the bus yard now. They won't be put in service until next school year. And we also got a 2006 CE 300 special needs bus.

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busdrver4jesus
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Posted - 03/15/2006 :  12:29:35 PM  Show Profile  Send busdrver4jesus an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Here's another bus for South Carolina to buy! If you guys rememer, South Carolina purchased several Kentucky school buses, all of them being this one right here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Classic-Yellow-Transit-School-Bus-Side-No-281_W0QQitemZ4617266537QQcategoryZ6728QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

They were OK buses, but I did not like that huge "dog house" you had to crawl beside to get to the seat. You had to suck it up to get into that seat! LOL
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Chris
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Posted - 03/16/2006 :  12:15:03 PM  Show Profile  Visit Chris's Homepage  Send Chris an AOL message  Click to see Chris's MSN Messenger address  Send Chris a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Well just a few recent notes on Kentucky buses. The mechanic I work with at school attended the yearly spec meeting in Frankfort to discuss updates or changes to basic Kentucky buses, and here is what I've learned.

Soon all Kentucky buses will have signs on rear bumpers saying the vehicle stops at all railroad crossings. Also a sticker will be added to the rear displaying a stop sign and saying stop on signal, or something along those lines.

And as of July 1 all bus drivers are to use 4-way flashers at railroad crossings.

I asked what they spent time talking about, and he told me they went into a "suggestion" session, where people who were invited would tell about problems or make suggestions for upgrades. He said about 45 minutes worth of the time was spent complaining about Thomas buses and their problems, while about 5 minutes in all was spent discussing small International problems. Blue Bird was of no mention because they do not put in bids for the state.

Although I hadn't thought about it he brought up something that made pretty good sense to me. A lot of the people suggested for Kentucky to do away with Thomas buses all together, since the ones purchased in the past were so troublesome. And the reply to that was something along the lines of, the only reason why Thomas buses are still purchased is for International to have competition.

So don't be surprised if your (Kentucky) district is buying International, because I think it is very easy to see (here in Northern Kentucky) that IC is the clear brand of choice.



My Personal Fleet
1985 Ward Ford #1 Lexington Local - 1990 Wayne International NO.2 Walton-Verona - 1992 Ward Senator NO.4 Walton-Verona *SOLD*
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Jake
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Posted - 03/16/2006 :  2:43:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Now that makes a lot of sense. Hmm. Our 2003 Thomas Freighliners are hardly in the shops at all! Hmm. But I have heard Thomas has a lot of complaints from KY. Whatever
Anywho. Thanks for sharing that chris!!
~Jake~
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ThomasER0005
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Posted - 03/23/2006 :  6:06:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How come on most of the 2005 and newer buses they have the regular stop sign with the 2 flashing lights lights on each side? Did KY do away with the LED stop sign? I like the LED stop sign much better than the other one.

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Chris
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Posted - 03/23/2006 :  6:11:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit Chris's Homepage  Send Chris an AOL message  Click to see Chris's MSN Messenger address  Send Chris a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Yes Kentucky is done with the LED "STOP" signs. I wish everyone were. When it comes down to it I think two alternating lights are much more noticable from a distance than the word stop.



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1985 Ward Ford #1 Lexington Local - 1990 Wayne International NO.2 Walton-Verona - 1992 Ward Senator NO.4 Walton-Verona *SOLD*
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ThomasER0005
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Posted - 03/23/2006 :  6:15:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmmm..., I wonder if they both were added together if that would make it even more noticable?

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Chris
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Posted - 03/23/2006 :  6:42:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit Chris's Homepage  Send Chris an AOL message  Click to see Chris's MSN Messenger address  Send Chris a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Well also those LED stop arms are outrageously expensive, and if you lose some led's (6 max per side, 3 max per letter I think...) the whole side has to replaced...waste of money in the end.



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1985 Ward Ford #1 Lexington Local - 1990 Wayne International NO.2 Walton-Verona - 1992 Ward Senator NO.4 Walton-Verona *SOLD*
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kentuckynascar1
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Posted - 04/03/2006 :  10:04:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just found the KY procurement form and it has the prices for the buses. Here's the link: http://www.education.ky.gov/NR/rdonlyres/elu6lvbcnxzodfrtjw5eedzkyguj4bgdseoxivt3r2fg6u7hlv54axvq4wk3pvrs74tgry7yiu7ytxhkt72324qgv4a/SchoolBusOrderForms.doc
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ThomasER0005
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Posted - 04/04/2006 :  2:45:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the link..

Does KY not allow the Cummins engine?

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ThomasER0005
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Posted - 04/18/2006 :  8:13:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's a link to the information on the 2006 Sate Road-e-o http://www.thekapt.com/2006%20State%20Road-E-O/

And here's a link to the information on the 2006 Southeastern Road-e-o http://www.thekapt.com/2006%20Southeastern%20Roadeo/

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Jake
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Posted - 06/23/2006 :  05:57:11 AM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey!

(Sorry to bring up this topic again)

But I am doing a project and can anyone provide me with the following info:

When did KY (or if they ever did) make a lighted destination sign a requierment, and when did this end (I'm assummming it ended in 1988). I don't know if it was a requirement, due to I've seen a 1984 GMC CARP, KY SPEC, without it. But I have seen many more with it (1970s Loadstar waynes, etc).

A example of this is on this bus:
http://www.schoolbusenthusiast.com/Fall_2005/carp_s1700_ky_jake.html
(Where the ovaly thingy is around the SCHOOL BUS on the roof cap).

Does anyone know anything about this?

Thanks,
Jake
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ThomasER0005
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Posted - 06/28/2006 :  7:48:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the link to the 2006 Ky State Road-e-o pics. http://www.thekapt.com/2006%20State%20Road%20E%20O/

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Posted - 06/28/2006 :  10:21:57 PM  Show Profile  Send Gini an AOL message  Reply with Quote
now i know how y'all feel visiting our thread! haven't a clue about the things going on in KY, but it's fun looking in & reading what you post. it's a way to get to know some y'all better.

1Peter 1:3
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Jake
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Posted - 09/05/2006 :  4:33:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
sorry for bringing up an old topic.

I was wondering... Can anyone help me fill out this chart of what buses everyone purchased in Kentucky? It'll really help me for a research project.
2006= IC, Thomas
2005= IC, Thomas
2004= IC, Thomas
2003= IC, Thomas
2002= IC
2001= IC, Blue Bird
2000= AmTran
1999= AmTran
1998= AmTran / Crown by Carpenter
1997= AmTran
1996= AmTran / Blue Bird
1995= AmTran/ Carpenter
1994= AmTran
1993= Ward/ AmTran
1992= Ward/ Wayne
1991= Blue Bird, Carpenter
1990= Wayne
1989= Ward/ Blue Bird
1988= Wayne
1987= Carpenter
1986= Wayne
1985= Wayne
1984= Wayne
1983= Blue Bird
1982= Blue Bird
1981= Wayne
1980= Carpenter
1979=
1978= Ward
1977= Superior (Ford)
1976=
1975=
1974=
1973=
1972=
1971=
1970=
1969= Wayne (Welles)

Try to fill in some gaps! :)

~Jake~


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I UPDATED IT.

THANKS FOR ALL THE INFO! I VERY WELL APPRICIATE IT


Since 2008
SBW Homepage - Bus Industry Forums

Edited by - Jake on 09/17/2006 2:13:43 PM
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kentuckynascar1
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Posted - 09/16/2006 :  12:49:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 92WardSenatorFE

sorry for bringing up an old topic.

I was wondering... Can anyone help me fill out this chart of what buses everyone purchased in Kentucky? It'll really help me for a research project.
2006= IC, Thomas
2005= IC, Thomas
2004= IC, Thomas
2003= IC, Thomas
2002= IC
2001= IC, Blue Bird
2000= AmTran
1999= AmTran
1998= AmTran / Crown by Carpenter
1997= AmTran
1996= AmTran / Blue Bird
1995= AmTran/ Carpenter
1994= AmTran
1993= Ward/ AmTran
1992= Ward/ Wayne
1991= Blue Bird, Carpenter
1990= Wayne
1989= Ward/ Blue Bird
1988= Wayne
1987= Carpenter
1986= Wayne??
1985=
1984=
1983=
1982=
1981=
1980= Carpenter
1979=
1978=
1977=
1976=
1975=
1974=
1973=
1972=
1971=
1970=
1969= Wayne (Welles)

Try to fill in some gaps! :)

~Jake~





81-believe Wayne
82-83-blue bird
84-86-Wayne
87-Carpenter
78-Ward
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Jake
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Posted - 09/16/2006 :  3:26:29 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks so much!

~Jake~
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Thomasbus24
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Posted - 09/17/2006 :  04:33:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 1977's were Ford/Superiors. Sorry I have no other info.
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kentuckynascar1
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Posted - 09/18/2006 :  2:24:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just remembered 80 was Carpenter
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Jake
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Posted - 09/18/2006 :  5:32:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jake's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I saw a old 1980 Ford Carp at a demolition derby, same school bus spec too.
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