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C.HARDY
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Posted - 12/07/2011 :  1:58:00 PM  Show Profile  Click to see C.HARDY's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It looks like Va. Beach is trying to rid their fleet of any problem buses and odd balls. I think thats a good idea if they are getting to be troublesome.

"Hardybusman"
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bsaund09
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Posted - 12/14/2011 :  06:31:50 AM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
yes, the CNG s cost them a few dollars along the way although the two they are selling were both up and running when they pulled them off the routes.

keep those buses rolling
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/schoolbushistory
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Tatum
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Posted - 12/19/2011 :  2:27:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's an ER from some county in VA.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1997-THOMAS-78-PASSENGER-FLAT-NOSE-SCHOOL-BUS-AIR-BRAKES-CAT-3126-DIESEL-162K-/110796791795?pt=Buses&hash=item19cc00dff3#v4-40
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BusFreak
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Posted - 12/19/2011 :  4:44:16 PM  Show Profile  Send BusFreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Arlington County

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C.HARDY
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Posted - 12/19/2011 :  4:56:04 PM  Show Profile  Click to see C.HARDY's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Nice looking bus

"Hardybusman"
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Tatum
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Posted - 12/29/2011 :  4:04:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Prince William?

http://floridachurchbus.com/98y1414thhcac/two.html
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C.HARDY
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Posted - 12/30/2011 :  07:17:29 AM  Show Profile  Click to see C.HARDY's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yep. Super nice little buses that are like brand new. I'm not a transit fan but these are in excellent shape inside and out. Really makes you wonder why they would be retired so soon simply for age.

"Hardybusman"

Edited by - C.HARDY on 12/30/2011 07:19:52 AM
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bsaund09
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Posted - 01/01/2012 :  1:47:20 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
sometimes they arent as sweet as they look. epa rules really have changed the industry.

keep those buses rolling
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/schoolbushistory
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BusFreak
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Posted - 02/28/2012 :  6:23:48 PM  Show Profile  Send BusFreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Sorry to bring up this old topic, but does anyone know if there is a new mandate or something requiring new Special Ed buses to be air conditioned? Arlington County until this year has never had a single air conditioned bus in their fleet. I saw not one, but TWO new special ed buses today with AC! THey have been making some huge cut backs to their specs here too. They went back to buying conventionals a few years ago, and as of last year no longer spec LED lighting or air ride suspension. WIth all of those spec cut backs, the last thing I'd expect them to do is introduce AC. That's why I'm wondering if there is a new requirement or something.

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Tatum
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Posted - 03/04/2012 :  5:21:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Any ideas?

http://floridachurchbus.com/97m0013fordth6row/two.html
http://floridachurchbus.com/96m0022chevbb22p/two.html

Middlesex County

http://floridachurchbus.com/93m0024ihbb3605ab/two.html
http://floridachurchbus.com/91m0023ihbb3605hb/two.html

Edited by - Tatum on 03/04/2012 5:59:32 PM
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BusFreak
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Posted - 03/05/2012 :  6:17:25 PM  Show Profile  Send BusFreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Nice finds from Middlesex County! I love those rare 5 speeds with air brakes. I think Agusta County or Staunton City had some too.

I really think that Type A bus is a private school, as it doesn't look like it was numbered in the places that VA buses are numbered. I have no clue on the Thomas Ford. SO many districts around the Richmond area had those. The automatic transmission could narrow it down a good bit for that year though, as most of the state was still on manual transmissions.

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C.HARDY
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Posted - 03/07/2012 :  3:44:52 PM  Show Profile  Click to see C.HARDY's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think that Minotour belonged to a private operator in northern Va.Are you sure those Internationals arent from Essex Co. I know they speced. 5 speeds with air brakes. I've seen it at SMI in the past. Those Fords are tough. I dont really know of any around here at all. They could be from Prince George Co. they had a ton of Fords.

"Hardybusman"

Edited by - C.HARDY on 03/08/2012 6:13:54 PM
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old_school
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Posted - 03/07/2012 :  4:39:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit old_school's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I would say that ford came from Greensville County. They were the only one's i remember with the shorty fords....Think bout it.. If you look at the side and try to picture a longer name before the "county" greensville seems to fit right in.
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Tatum
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Posted - 03/07/2012 :  4:42:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe Greene County Public Schools? I know they traded in a small Ford Thomas like that about this time last year.
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C.HARDY
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Posted - 03/08/2012 :  6:14:28 PM  Show Profile  Click to see C.HARDY's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think Greene would be 5 speed but thats just my guess?

"Hardybusman"
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pwcsken
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Posted - 05/10/2012 :  10:08:41 AM  Show Profile  Visit pwcsken's Homepage  Reply with Quote
For those who are interested in photos of old Prince William County buses, I put together a collection on my Flickr account. Enjoy!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/64708177@N06/
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old_school
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Posted - 05/11/2012 :  2:39:08 PM  Show Profile  Visit old_school's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Nice photos pwcsken. Im assuming those buses are long gone to the scrap yards?
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Tatum
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Posted - 07/30/2012 :  11:10:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are some rare VA Crown by Carpenters up or auction.

http://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/auction/view?auc=738971
http://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/auction/view?auc=738972
http://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/auction/view?auc=738974
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Tatum
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Posted - 11/12/2012 :  8:02:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anyone know who this bus could have belonged to back in the day? Pic was taken in 2005.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/48773958@N05/8180375739/in/photostream
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C.HARDY
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Posted - 11/19/2012 :  3:41:46 PM  Show Profile  Click to see C.HARDY's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I'm saying 1990 ER from Richmond City Public Schools.

"Hardybusman"
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Tatum
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Posted - 11/20/2012 :  10:53:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sonny Merryman called me today! What a sweet man! It was so nice talking on the phone with a man who is so influential in the bus industry. I hope to meet him this summer. He kept telling me, "I'm 88 years-old, I won't be here much longer, so don't keep putting off coming up to Virginia."


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C.HARDY
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Posted - 12/06/2012 :  6:59:12 PM  Show Profile  Click to see C.HARDY's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I can tell you he is a great guy full of knowledge. I am proud to know him and deal with his company. MAKE THE TRIP!!

"Hardybusman"
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Tatum
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Posted - 12/10/2012 :  10:53:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by C.HARDY

I can tell you he is a great guy full of knowledge. I am proud to know him and deal with his company. MAKE THE TRIP!!



That's EXACTLY what I'm doing in a few weeks. My parents have given me permission to take a trip to see the most influential bus dealer in America!

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C.HARDY
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Posted - 12/13/2012 :  2:41:54 PM  Show Profile  Click to see C.HARDY's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Poor Sonnny is almost completely blind but still knows who you are when you visit. Take the time to meet the great staff there as well. They are really a top notch dealership that truly believes in and backs their product to the fullest. You will be glad you came to Virginia.

"Hardybusman"
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Tatum
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Posted - 12/13/2012 :  3:17:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by C.HARDY

Poor Sonnny is almost completely blind but still knows who you are when you visit. Take the time to meet the great staff there as well. They are really a top notch dealership that truly believes in and backs their product to the fullest. You will be glad you came to Virginia.



Unfortunately Sonny has also recently been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer as well. :(
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Tatum
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Posted - 01/08/2013 :  4:57:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are there any districts still running gasoline powered conventional buses in Virginia? The last county that I am aware of was Northampton County and they just recently traded in their last two gasoline powered buses..

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CarsonMP
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Posted - 01/19/2013 :  05:01:49 AM  Show Profile  Visit CarsonMP's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tatum

Are there any districts still running gasoline powered conventional buses in Virginia? The last county that I am aware of was Northampton County and they just recently traded in their last two gasoline powered buses..


If you are talking about fill 'er up smelly buses, Manassas Park still has em'. We recently received some new CEs. 3 2011 CEs and a 2010-2011 CE Handicap. The handicap, numbered 33, is a normal sized bus. It has been out though recently because of having to regen the engine a LOT in the past few weeks. I was riding one of the new CEs, 34, and we had to pull off the road and get another bus to pick us up. It smelled terrible outside the bus. IC/Navistar is going down the hole in my opinion. Funny thing is, 32, my bus, is the first 2010 CE with full LED and it hasn't had a single problem.
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Tatum
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Posted - 01/19/2013 :  10:10:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CarsonMP

quote:
Originally posted by Tatum

Are there any districts still running gasoline powered conventional buses in Virginia? The last county that I am aware of was Northampton County and they just recently traded in their last two gasoline powered buses..


If you are talking about fill 'er up smelly buses, Manassas Park still has em'. We recently received some new CEs. 3 2011 CEs and a 2010-2011 CE Handicap. The handicap, numbered 33, is a normal sized bus. It has been out though recently because of having to regen the engine a LOT in the past few weeks. I was riding one of the new CEs, 34, and we had to pull off the road and get another bus to pick us up. It smelled terrible outside the bus. IC/Navistar is going down the hole in my opinion. Funny thing is, 32, my bus, is the first 2010 CE with full LED and it hasn't had a single problem.



No, I wasn't really talking about normal gasoline powered buses. Nothing smelly about them. ;)

Carson, if you want to see the pics I took at Sonny Merryman, they're right here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57016435@N04/sets/72157632487452425/
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CarsonMP
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Posted - 01/19/2013 :  5:36:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit CarsonMP's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sweet! I told my dad about them and we might take a trip there! Thanks Tatum! BTW, I miss you XD

And BTW, my friend and I walked behind one of the buses and the teachers thought we were high. Thats how bad our ER smells.

Edited by - CarsonMP on 01/19/2013 5:41:09 PM
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C.HARDY
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Posted - 01/20/2013 :  08:10:22 AM  Show Profile  Click to see C.HARDY's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Uhhh Manassas is all diesel as far as I know.....Maybe a gas minotour but no large buses. Northampton was the last to switch to diesel for the large buses and they still have a few left.

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CarsonMP
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Posted - 01/21/2013 :  2:37:49 PM  Show Profile  Visit CarsonMP's Homepage  Reply with Quote
A lot of interesting new things in here!

http://www.doe.virginia.gov/boe/regulations/state/bus_specifications.pdf

Anyone on here from Northern VA? There was recently a Vista Handy for sale from Chesterfield County and theres a nice Thomas Int'l Handy with LED rear lighting and an AC unit sitting up on 28 just pass the McDonalds. I got pics of the Vista but its gone. I think it was $5,300 for the Int'l.
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Tatum
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Posted - 01/22/2013 :  8:43:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I saw a ton of Prince William County HDXs, EFs, and C2s, plus a Mintour of theirs. Do they have many 96-98 ERs left in service or have they all been retired? Also saw a few Fairfax REs and an ER that had an emerged exit door almost right by the driver's window!
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CarsonMP
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Posted - 01/23/2013 :  2:37:07 PM  Show Profile  Visit CarsonMP's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Oh yeah! I forgot! I see PWC's Mintour every morning! I see it at the top of the school's street. Its nice. I think they still might have them as spares, I see old yellow roofed ERs being used sometimes.
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Tatum
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Posted - 05/08/2013 :  12:10:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is this one of the Fairfax buses that was sent to the Gulf Coast after Katrina?

http://gulfport.craigslist.org/cto/3768259542.html
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C.HARDY
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Posted - 05/09/2013 :  7:13:47 PM  Show Profile  Click to see C.HARDY's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yes definately an old Fairfax war wagon

"Hardybusman"
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