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bsaund09
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USA
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Posted - 09/08/2009 :  3:28:58 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
i just love breaking down on the first day of school.

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hardybusman
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United States
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Posted - 09/09/2009 :  4:12:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Vabuslover the buses I looked at were 1986 models with 4 way lights and the engines you are thinking of was the 8.2L V8 to the Ford 6.6L in-line 6. Both were very good engines by the way. It may have been longer than 5 years that I looked to bid on those little babies, time really seems to fly lately. Vistas seem like they were only built to last 5 or 6 years, after that they rattle and just dont seem to hold up well. Our 1996 model is in pretty good shape but it was a sp. ed. bus that didnt get much abuse.

How was everyones first few days? bsaund09 you sound like not too good!!

Mr. Courtney Hardy

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bsaund09
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USA
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Posted - 09/09/2009 :  5:27:56 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
yeah, i think my bus has some sort of electric problems everything that should shut down with the key kept staying on and it finally got to the Child Safety Check System which meant i couldnt disarm the alarm but it did finally work at the garage . Our spares had not been processed yet so finding a bus was interesting and then it had problems today but one of the better mechanics got it going so Hats Off to those guys. i have always liked the '99 GMC s not a bad bus at all.

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hardybusman
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United States
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Posted - 09/09/2009 :  6:18:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry you've had a rough start. At least you got a nice spare it seems, must be nice to have a 99 for a spare. Elsctrical issues stink because they can be hard to trace and cause a lot of down time. Other than having a inner rear tire blow out on one of ours its been a smooth start. We started last week so we got a head start. Hope they get your bus straight bsaund.

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hardybusman
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United States
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Posted - 09/23/2009 :  4:42:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How is everyones school year going so far? Hopefully not a lot of problems.

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bsaund09
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USA
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Posted - 10/04/2009 :  07:34:32 AM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Basically , I am having a great year so far breakdown and all the biggest things going on here are the installation of the GPS system in all school buses and I think they are doing trucks and cars after that. We also have had a school with severe discpline issues that are about to take possession of a brand new multi million dollar green equipped building not sure what their furture will be but they are an alternative school. Our bus routes were pretty messed up when school started so that is slowly being fixed they really ought to employ drivers to help with that job instead of paying people supervisors pay that have no clue exactly how this stuff works-I think they forgot that our times should include the traffic we encounter along that route since Edulog can't see or think traffic jam.

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hardybusman
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United States
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Posted - 10/07/2009 :  5:44:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Now you know the computer never lies and is always right. Other than constant minor mechanical problems we have had a pretty good year so far. Hope it keeps up, I've been logging 400-500 miles a week running activity trips alone, getting kinda burned out!

Mr. Courtney Hardy
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bsaund09
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USA
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Posted - 10/08/2009 :  05:57:39 AM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
i can imagine well, our buses that have full schedules easily do about a 1000miles plus every week I am around 800-900 miles a week.

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hardybusman
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United States
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Posted - 10/09/2009 :  06:01:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow you do somw rolling. My problem is my day starts at 6:30 at the shop turning wrenches or mowing grass and doing repairs around school. If I'm lucky I wont have to sub. on a route then grab some lunch before I head 100+ to Greenbrier or Isle of Wight, or Roanoke Catholic, sit through a game then head 100+ home, get home 12ish get 5 hrs. sleep and do it again. Most of our route buses travel 500-600 miles a week. I imagine you would wear out a bus pretty quick.

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bsaund09
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USA
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Posted - 10/11/2009 :  05:39:59 AM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
yeah, i do but so far this Vision is doing very well.

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hardybusman
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Posted - 10/11/2009 :  10:07:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Our biggest problem is our buses are pretty well worn when we buy them. I am pretty amazed sometime how well they hold up. Most of our buses have 200k+ miles and one is over 300k and one over 400k, but engine has been replaced.

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bsaund09
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USA
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Posted - 10/11/2009 :  12:00:06 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Ours now when being sold are usually 200k+ on them unusual to be below that marker. We do multiple runs during the day so the buses and drivers are used to there fullest potential we may never get paid like that but you never know.

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hardybusman
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United States
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Posted - 10/17/2009 :  12:55:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mileage goes up and pay goes down. Thats an interesting scale isnt it!!!!!! Lets just be thankful that we have a job to complain about.

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bsaund09
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USA
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Posted - 10/28/2009 :  05:31:46 AM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Mr. Hardy they are selling two of the 1996 52 pass.buses on public surplus for the next 5 days.I not to sure about 420 but 416 just came off the road but i think has more miles that leaves 4 others yet to come.http://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/auction/view?auc=383803

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hardybusman
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United States
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Posted - 11/01/2009 :  12:03:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks bsaund09, I've been watching them and was going to ask you about them but you beat me too it. Does 416 have a lift? I see it needs a lot of work but that does keep the price down. I like the fact that Va. Beach lists the defects that are known.

Mr. Courtney Hardy

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bsaund09
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USA
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Posted - 11/01/2009 :  2:40:30 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
no lift on 416 or 420 yes it has been around the block a few times but those have been some really good buses along the way.

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hardybusman
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United States
470 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2009 :  5:27:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
bsaund09 thanks again for the heads up. I gave a bid on both and we'll see what happens. I'd love to get a couple of those 93 with the DT360 engines. They dont come much finer than those buses in my book. I just dont need anything that big right now. What are ya'll using for spares now? Did Va. Beach get a large order of new buses this year?

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bsaund09
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USA
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Posted - 11/03/2009 :  07:02:51 AM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
So far no new buses at all, the spare line consist of the '94s,'95s,'96 and '97 Internationals on a bluebird and thomas body. They have a few '99 GMCs in use as spares to the new buses should be arriving anytime now. Those 52 pass. are the ones like that in Va.Beach ever all the rest of the 52 pass. buses are lift equipped buses.They do have one Vista with ac and lift still running Bus 473 not sure when they plan parking that one although it has mega miles I am sure that was the second lift bus ever bought equipped with ac. The '93s they sold with it were installed ac units after purchase.

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hardybusman
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United States
470 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2009 :  4:23:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well I didnt get any buses. We really dont need anything right now but I dont like to let those 52's get away. Those are hard to get with no lift and a auto. trans. I been getting a couple from Loudon Co. but they are even getting hard to come by. Thanks again for the heads up! I really appreciate it.

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bsaund09
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USA
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Posted - 11/04/2009 :  07:05:00 AM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Sure, have you ever checked out the North Carolina State school bus sales site . They have all kinds of buses every size and year just mainly they are all Thomas built but they have low mileage.

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hardybusman
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United States
470 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2009 :  07:58:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah
i've browsed through N.C. but they seem to be older and are kind of pricey. I do like the Thomas body the best. Hopefully we will be getting a bus or two this summer. I've got two 5 speed buses I'd like to replace.

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722
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United States
129 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2009 :  5:28:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear School Bus Fleet Friends,

With great sadness I have to report that we have lost one of our forum members. Rick Williams a.k.a. Disneynuts lost his battle to cancer last Friday. As you may know Williams Bus Lines is a Northern Virginia school bus contactor for the private and parochial schools. The company will continue with the family operating it as it has been since 1983.

A message from Rick's family

Hello Family and Friends,

Thank you all for your loving care and support. As we are saddened by the passing of my daddy, we have the following information for his celebration of life service.

The service will be held on Saturday, November 14th at 11:30am at
The Alive Gathering Ministries
6820A Commercial Drive
Springfield, Virginia 22151

Donations to the American Cancer Society in Rick's name in lieu of flowers.

Please send your thoughts and prayers to Rick and his wonderful family.

Rick's journal can be found here: http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/rickwilliams/journal

Thanks,

James Day, CDPT
Executive Secretary, VAPT
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hardybusman
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United States
470 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2009 :  4:21:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I enjoyed chatting with him. He will be missed.

Mr. Courtney Hardy
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hardybusman
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United States
470 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2009 :  4:41:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey bsaund09, keep your head above water. Hope you dont get flooded out.

Mr. Courtney Hardy
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bsaund09
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USA
609 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2009 :  12:22:35 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Hey, thanks no flooding on this street but plenty of streets still covered in water. We lost power during the night Thursday and was restored today- saturday.I hear we have a bus with a tree on the top of it.

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hardybusman
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United States
470 Posts

Posted - 11/17/2009 :  3:33:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glad to here all is good. No major issues here except a lot of roof issues with hatches leaking. Other than that no problems. I have to come your way football this Saturday to play finals at Isle of Wight Academy. I would have liked to seen that barge up on the beach. I caught a glimpse on the news.

Mr. Courtney Hardy
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hardybusman
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United States
470 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2009 :  5:02:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Any updates from anyone on the Roanoke contract? I'm really interested in hearing how that is going.

Mr. Courtney Hardy
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SWVA Busdriver
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Posted - 12/04/2009 :  7:02:35 PM  Show Profile  Visit SWVA Busdriver's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I know someone who drives for Roanoke and it has been tough with route issues and lack of drivers...PR in the news was not good at first. I know the drivers lost sick days and personal days and retirement...but pay is decent.. I hear they are training new drivers daily and still have garage people driving..Much turnover..State regs. have made it difficult for them also as a contract operation..Geared toward public run operation....Seems also much of the problems there are because of Roanoke City management issues that the contractor had to deal with...
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hardybusman
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United States
470 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2009 :  7:59:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought it would be rocky for the first year. I work for a private school which merged with another school and adjusting to the new way of doing things is not always accepted at first. I can imagine the contractor had their hands full with good 'ol government mangagement and drivers and staff angry over losing their benefits. It seems like it would be tough to make a profit with the state regs. like you are talking about. SWVA, where do you drive? I'm Transportation/Grounds Maintenance Dir. at Blessed Sacrament Huguenot Catholic School in Powhatan, Va. Dont let the title fool you. Basically I'm a driver that works on buses and cuts grass.

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SWVA Busdriver
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Posted - 12/06/2009 :  5:10:50 PM  Show Profile  Visit SWVA Busdriver's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I am a driver , and trainer for Montgomery County schools. This be my 31st year driving.. I have a few friends that drive at other systems near me and in other parts of Va. Met several of them at state conferences and bus driving competions.
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hardybusman
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United States
470 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2009 :  5:10:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well its nice to meet you. I enjoy chatting with other drivers and mechanics, especially from Virginia. I looked at a couple of buses that were sold on public surplus.com from Montgomery Co. a couple of weeks ago. We buy all of our buses used so I'm always on the look out. Some of my family is from Carroll Co. and I do love traveling down that way every year for reunion. I've been in this buisness for almost 14 years and have really enjoyed every day of it.

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Tatum
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United States
606 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2009 :  4:33:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.floridachurchbus.com/96vistava/rightrain.jpg

Prince William County?

http://floridachurchbus.com/90m5834tp3208/two.html

Anyone know? It doesn't look like it's from Prince William.
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BusFreak
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USA
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Posted - 12/13/2009 :  08:21:10 AM  Show Profile  Send BusFreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I don't think either one of those are from Prince William. For the Vista, by 1996, they were getting tinted windows. The second one i REALLY don't think is prince william for two reasons. It looks to have an air door, and it has green seats. It could be any one of many Virginia districts as it looks to be speced as a trip bus (storage, etc.). Quite a few districts bought a handful of REs to use as trip buses (york county is the first that comes to mind). City of Richmond also had some Thomas ERs of that vintage in their fleet.

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hardybusman
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United States
470 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2009 :  5:20:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That Vista is an old Henrico County bus and is actually a '95.
The pusher is an old City of Richmond bus. Rode hard and put up wet.
The Prince William pushers were '91 and up and had brown interior.
Both were at SMI this summer. We own a '96 from Henrico and it has a white roof, tinted glass, and is not high headroom.

Mr. Courtney Hardy

Edited by - hardybusman on 12/25/2009 12:34:43 PM
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hardybusman
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United States
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Posted - 12/19/2009 :  5:48:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why do we get record snow fall the FIRST day Christmas break and not the LAST day before we go back to school?

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