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hardybusman
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United States
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Posted - 07/25/2009 :  2:04:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Russell Auto and Truck Parts in Dinwiddie buys lots of buses fro scrap. He may have got them, I know he bought some of the last batch Va. Beach sold. They werent Vistas but he scraps them out so he doesnt care what they are. Otherwise I'd say they are on their way overseas.

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bsaund09
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USA
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Posted - 07/25/2009 :  8:17:15 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
cool deal I did a web search of that place using maps he has a lot of buses in back of his salvage yard. that would be a cool place to find some great old buses i bet.

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hardybusman
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Posted - 07/26/2009 :  08:44:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I sure hate to see them go that way. Our school has bought a bus or two from him over the years. We only buy used and he is very reasonable on price. Also a great place to get used parts especially tires. The buses dont sit there very long, he likes to keep moving inventory. If they dont sell pretty quick he cuts them up. He may be stocking up right now for scrap price to go up. You can buy buses at auction right now for little of nothing. I bet he didnt pay over 500 or 600 bucks for those.

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bsaund09
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Posted - 07/27/2009 :  12:27:42 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Something new for the Va. Beach City Public School Bus Drivers & Assistants Association is online now and up and running . Check it out http://www.vbbusesrus.org/.

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poor_driver
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Posted - 07/28/2009 :  4:24:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aww why is everyone so hard on the Vista's? they served their purpose? am i wrong yall? now i know they are not the most popular bus in the world but they did serve their purpose. Actually i sort of like them especially around 96 and 97...they looked better. One of these days they are going to be a collector's item just like a Thomas dodge. I have an idea, all of the Vistas that are not welcomed anymore in your bus yard, send them to me still yellow with the lights on them, i'll take them all!!!
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hardybusman
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United States
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Posted - 07/28/2009 :  5:13:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I bet you will and probably all the Ward body GMC as well. Am I right? he he

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bsaund09
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Posted - 07/28/2009 :  6:46:15 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
poor driver you do have a point there, I know when we got them in 1995 our drivers by senority were given a chance to choose either the Vista or a reg conventional IHC Thomas and I guess to be honest most jumped on the Vistas because they were different and most that drove them liked them sort of like back in the day when school bus drivers that had a Dodge loved them everyone else wondered why.

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hardybusman
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Posted - 07/29/2009 :  3:15:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Vista was decent at first but beating around after a few years they quickly lost their luster. I live just outside Chesterfield and they were Vista capital for a lot of years. Those drivers didnt know any difference so no one ever complained about them, until just recently. I never drove a Dodge so I cant judge them. bsaund09 I think you told me you went to GCA. What kinda buses did they run back in the day? They have a nice fleet now. We play them in football every other year.

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bsaund09
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USA
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Posted - 07/29/2009 :  8:02:30 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
When they opened back in 1983 they started out with a 1973 Ford Thomas a 52 pass. (Bus 6)from Danville Christian Schools which went out of business in that same year they also had two short Carps Chevy 100 and 103 the little bus not a conventional. The second year they bought a 1973 Ford Wayne a 66 pass. bus from Lynchburg Public Schools also got a longer short Carp Chevy Bus 139 and really after that not sure the direction they went. I know they ran a 1989 Chevy Bluebird B style bus in Va. Beach . They bought a couple of FS 65s brand new recently and one of them got wrecked not sure what they do now. I see there Coach Gator Bus every once in a while.

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hardybusman
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United States
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Posted - 07/30/2009 :  8:00:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They definately have some sharp looking activity buses. I've seen the coach and the FS 65 activity bus. The little Chevy doesnt fit in to well around those newer conventionals. GCA has a very nice looking campus and fleet, I'd say they have their act together.
Poor Driver, give me a call and let me know your plans for the bus, I've got another bite on it and just want to know what your plans are.

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poor_driver
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Posted - 08/01/2009 :  1:28:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Give you a call on what bus? you got the right person?
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hardybusman
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United States
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Posted - 08/01/2009 :  4:47:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought so? If not I'm sorry.

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hardybusman
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United States
470 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2009 :  10:39:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey, bsaund09 would you happen to know anything about VB570? Its a 95 Intl 52 passenger with a lift. Its for sale on craigslist. Our school could use a bus that size but didnt know if it was a decent bus. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks

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bsaund09
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USA
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Posted - 08/02/2009 :  4:03:39 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
it was a really good bus some of those buses were pulled simply because of mileage. i honestly dont know of its running condition it does not have ac i know that. it was on every day routes until this past year.

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hardybusman
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United States
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Posted - 08/02/2009 :  6:45:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cool, I appreciate that information. Those 52 passengers work very well for us. We usually remove the lift and seat it for nine rows. They are hard to find with automatic transmission. Works very well when you only have 20-25 children riding and you got a bunch of turn arounds. Thanks again!!
Like I've said if you are ever out my way let me know and you snap some photos of our fleet. We'll be washing them and painting wheels real soon. That silver ring takes a little extra time but they stand out from Powhatan so nice.

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bsaund09
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USA
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Posted - 08/02/2009 :  7:08:45 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
We have severval 1996 Bluebirds Int. that are 52 pass. buses without lifts that have been replaced the buses have yet to been sold but they still use them as spares and reg bus routes with an A in front of the number. they are buses 412,416,417,418,419,420 at some point soon i am sure they will be on the auction block.

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hardybusman
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United States
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Posted - 08/04/2009 :  4:29:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I appreciate that info! Its nice having an inside contact. I'll keep a sharp eye on Gov. Surplus and you keep sharp eye on the lot. When do ya'll crank back up for the fall? We start on the 1st. Thats late for us.

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bsaund09
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USA
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Posted - 08/04/2009 :  5:31:22 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
We dont start till Sept. 8 but I started my fall activity run on Aug. 3 but still lots of summer stuff going on .

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hardybusman
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United States
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Posted - 08/05/2009 :  7:10:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Keep cool, its going to hottt next week! Hope that Bird got a/c. ha ha

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bsaund09
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USA
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Posted - 08/13/2009 :  09:07:40 AM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
hey found a cool bus on ebay great pics of the 1973 IHC Carp http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1973-International-Loadstar-1600-Short-School-Bus_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem3354b349d2QQitemZ220464368082QQptZBuses

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Tatum
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United States
606 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2009 :  5:20:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does anyone have any ideas where this bus came from? http://www.bgasales.net/1101/5.html
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hardybusman
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United States
470 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2009 :  8:04:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think that bus came from Sonny Merryman Inc. And from the looks of the tiny black out I'd say ISA out of Northern Virginia. If it is, its a real rag. I looked at some a year ago and they were in terrible shape. I'm not real sure what "ISA" stands for but I do know they are up north maybe in Fairfax or Loudon? They have a nice fleet buying new buses. Thats rare for most private school, at least it is around here.

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Tatum
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Posted - 08/13/2009 :  8:33:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
^ I've seen that private school buses aren't kept in good shape as public school buses.

Edited by - Tatum on 08/14/2009 7:37:42 PM
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IC
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USA
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Posted - 08/13/2009 :  8:49:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hardybusman

I think that bus came from Sonny Merryman Inc. And from the looks of the tiny black out I'd say ISA out of Northern Virginia. If it is, its a real rag. I looked at some a year ago and they were in terrible shape. I'm not real sure what "ISA" stands for but I do know they are up north maybe in Fairfax or Loudon? They have a nice fleet buying new buses. Thats rare for most private school, at least it is around here.




ISA stands for Islamic Saudi Academy....it's a controversial school run by the Saudi government. That's probably explains why they only use the initials on their buses. The guard house at the campus gates is another clue.

They have two campuses, one is a former Fairfax County school building that the County leases to them. The other is on 38 acre property in Fairfax Station very near my house. The County just approved a major expansion of the Fairfax Station campus over the strenuous objection of us locals.
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hardybusman
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United States
470 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2009 :  4:33:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I couldnt remember the name of that school to save my life. But I'm sure thats one of their trade ins. I didnt realize the Saudi Gov. ran that school. Why is the schol controversial? Have you decided to hang up driving and head to the beach yet? I read your post on that. Are you sure that you would like driving those little 52 passengers.

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Tatum
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United States
606 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2009 :  4:55:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wikipedia shouldn't be trusted, but this is what it says for the ISA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Saudi_Academy
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hardybusman
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United States
470 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2009 :  1:04:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tatum

^ I've seen that private school buses aren't kept in good shape as public school buses.

You should come see my fleet. It's older and not the best looking but I would place them beside any public school bus as far as safety and maintenance upkeep.

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Tatum
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United States
606 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2009 :  4:02:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
^ I'd love too! :)

I'd love to travel America looking for school buses!
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bsaund09
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USA
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Posted - 08/16/2009 :  5:07:55 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
older school buses are usually better all the bugs have been worked out and if you had it for a while you can read it like a book. i only have broken down in one spare ever and that was Bus 74 the AA Bluebird but seeing as how it that when i had it as a regular bus not sure that counts.

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hardybusman
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United States
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Posted - 08/16/2009 :  8:40:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Like I said I would put my old rags up against any fleet. We considered buying new buses but found it wasnt feesable in the long run. What we spend on our buses, we would have to keep a new bus thirty years before it would payoff. You find me a new bus thats gonna last that long with all the plastic inside. I'm gonna ride my 1990 GMC Thomas as long as I can.

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hardybusman
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United States
470 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2009 :  08:46:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was coming through Southampton County on Friday and passed by their shop and saw they have an IC with the roof brands on the roof of the bus. I believe thats the first VA public school bus I've seen with roof brandings. It looked pretty sharp and really stood out from the pack.

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bsaund09
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Posted - 08/23/2009 :  09:30:38 AM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
nice but i am sure they will be removed just isnt legal with state owned buses.

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hardybusman
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Posted - 08/23/2009 :  10:45:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It looked like it was a couple of years old. It wasnt a new bus. They number them after the year model and I wish I'd payed attention to the number.

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bsaund09
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Posted - 08/23/2009 :  11:22:36 AM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
now that is interesting of course i am not sure they really check those things now they use to have a team of inspectors to check all buses at one time for state funding issues but not sure how they do it now.

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hardybusman
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Posted - 08/23/2009 :  12:36:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think I remember reading in the state regulations manual there was a section on that but I think since you could have chassis emblems and maybe they overlooked that because of the integrated units now. I saw a Freightliner a couple of weeks ago at SMI that had an automaic trans. and hydraulic brakes. That is also a no no for a VA bus. That bus was a spec. ed. bus for Buckingham Co. I had to go to SMI for some recall stuff and was there most of the day. Its pathectic to see the inventory they have in stock. Usually this time of the year there are at least 100 or more buses in stock and I bet I didnt see 30. Times are definately getting tough for everybody.

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