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IC-RE
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Posted - 11/11/2007 :  10:06:51 AM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah thats why I assume its Sonny Merryman, and not the district

bus 1980, a 2008 IC RE 300 for Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax, Virginia.
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BusFreak
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Posted - 11/11/2007 :  11:21:58 PM  Show Profile  Send BusFreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Arlington's new C2s are the same way, so you're right...it must be a Sonny Merryman thing. Arlington's latest C2s (along with Prince William's) also feature the warning lamp visors, and yellow around the last window, and less black around "School Bus" on the front and back. Sonny Merryman might be making their own look with the C2!

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pbfreak30
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Posted - 11/13/2007 :  8:56:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
our Sonny Merryman C2's have the visors this year,as well as the numbers on the passenger side bumper, as did the ones we got last yr. which in fact we had to have him add the driver side ones because they wernt on there when we got them...and ours this yr also have less black around the SCHOOL BUS lettering on the back, and yellow window posts, and auto tire chains

ARROW transportation RP..the best out there!

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2006bbvision
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Posted - 11/14/2007 :  4:16:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ICRE1629 When can we see some new photos on your site? I can't wait to see the new ones!
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 11/14/2007 :  5:59:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
An update should be coming. I've been swamped with stuff at work, school and at home. And to top it off, I just bought a car! (see my posts in the Fairfax thread)
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2006bbvision
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Posted - 11/15/2007 :  2:45:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cool I will keep the look out for them soon ICRE1629!!!! and once again Congrats on the NEW RIDE!!!!
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jclick
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Posted - 11/16/2007 :  09:26:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I heard the state was making them add the visors over the lamps. Our C2's in Accomack County have the number on the passenger side also.
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BusFreak
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Posted - 11/16/2007 :  10:42:13 AM  Show Profile  Send BusFreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
The state specifications do state that the warning lights must have a hooded assembly. They also state, however, that the bus number be placed on the drivers side of the front bumper. Something else interesting, the state only allows the second stop sign to be placed on type C and D buses of 64 passenger capacity or larger. Arlington has been putting them on all of their buses, even the short SE C2s they have.

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2006bbvision
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Posted - 11/16/2007 :  2:32:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Check this out, Virginia Beach city schools has a lot of buses for sale on Esurplus.

http://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/all,va/auction/view?auc=223746
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BusFreak
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Posted - 11/16/2007 :  2:46:41 PM  Show Profile  Send BusFreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I might add, those are GOOD buses too! It's a shame they are being retired. Those fords were very reliable to the system.

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bsaund09
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Posted - 11/16/2007 :  3:57:27 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I cannot believe Va.Beach is saling that old 177 that was a sweet bus back in the day. That was my last assigned Ford it was a really good bus.

keep those buses rolling
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/schoolbushistory
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722
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Posted - 11/17/2007 :  5:39:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Arlington was one of the pilot counties. They installed dual stop signs on all buses purchased in 2006. If you see the new 2007's you will notice that the 54-passengers special needs buses are equipped with only one stop sign.

The warning light hoods and the different paint is because of the revised specifications.
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disneynuts
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Posted - 11/18/2007 :  1:35:59 PM  Show Profile  Visit disneynuts's Homepage  Reply with Quote
722

In Sept of 05 we took delivery of our # 5 & 9 buses with the two stop signs.

Where you been? Going away for Winter Break?
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2006bbvision
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Posted - 11/19/2007 :  07:22:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with Bsaund09 the Fords are really good buses, I did not know
Va Beach had early 1990's Thomas Internationals.
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 11/19/2007 :  3:52:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Manassas Park bus:
http://flickr.com/photos/20663972@N02/2006910655/

Some VA buses. Not sure of district:
http://flickr.com/photos/8999398@N04/2040835242/
http://flickr.com/photos/8999398@N04/2040835238/in/photostream/
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Bus 801
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Posted - 11/19/2007 :  4:44:48 PM  Show Profile  Send Bus 801 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I'm 90% sure the last 2 links with the Thomas ERs is Arlington.

Rob
Floater 421

http://community.webshots.com/user/bus801

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BusFreak
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Posted - 11/19/2007 :  10:04:49 PM  Show Profile  Send BusFreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I'm with 801...Those are Arlington Buses...That Thomas fleet with a light mix of IC and those numbers are almost certain arlington. It helps to see Shirlington appartments in the background! If you want some good pictures, they only have one lot, and they do NOT allow parkouts. Every bus the county owns is in that lot, as far as I know. This includes School Buses, and Activity buses owned by Arlington County Parks and Recreation.

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2006bbvision
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Posted - 11/20/2007 :  07:39:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
just out of curiosity does any one know how many buses Arlington County operates with in there fleet?
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IC
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Posted - 11/20/2007 :  5:00:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 2006bbvision

just out of curiosity does any one know how many buses Arlington County operates with in there fleet?




120, I believe.
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722
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Posted - 11/20/2007 :  6:14:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IC

quote:
Originally posted by 2006bbvision

just out of curiosity does any one know how many buses Arlington County operates with in there fleet?




120, I believe.



Hi Disney,

I am not doing a lot of keyboarding with the carpo tunnel(sic)in both wrist (and the ones here that know me, know that I do hundreds of bus related emails monthly, so this has been tough on me) but I figured I would chime in on these last few post.

Hi Bus Freak, IC, IC 1629, and Bus 801,

Yes, you all are correct, the pictures are from the main parking lot and yes, that is a neat looking row of buses. Arlington is currently running 132 school buses. The schools actually do not have any activity buses, but the parks & rec department has a few activity buses that were purchased for county P & R trips.

True, currently all buses are compounded at a central location for security reasons, and guys you know your buildings well. Would you pay $750,000.00 to look at a bunch of school buses ???. Not me, I have official "no yellow weekends" at the beach, where I won't drive near the schools.

Hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving, Frying the big bird this year and staying up north. it gets cold on the water (burrhhhhhhh)
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BusFreak
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Posted - 11/20/2007 :  7:20:52 PM  Show Profile  Send BusFreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
HAHA...I actually looked into buying one of those places, but you're right...seems a bit steep to be paying to look at school buses, when i could be paying just as much to actually live IN the city. I decided to go with a much older place in arlington which not only has MUCH more character, but also has a better location than Shirlington. All of that MUCH less than a Shirlington Condo!

There is also atleast one bus in the county that is used by some kind of county Senior Center. It's a SHARP Thomas HDX with a red white and blue paint scheme.

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pbfreak30
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Posted - 11/21/2007 :  5:57:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BusFreak

The state specifications do state that the warning lights must have a hooded assembly. They also state, however, that the bus number be placed on the drivers side of the front bumper. Something else interesting, the state only allows the second stop sign to be placed on type C and D buses of 64 passenger capacity or larger. Arlington has been putting them on all of their buses, even the short SE C2s they have.



well up to this year the C2's we bought dont have hoods on the warning lights, but the most recent 2008 C2's we got do have the hoods on them

ARROW transportation RP..the best out there!
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BusFreak
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Posted - 11/21/2007 :  9:11:55 PM  Show Profile  Send BusFreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I actually saw one of Bedford's C2s in at Powhatan HS last winter, and it looked to be fairly new. It had the new forward mirror on the service side. That C2 looked to be a longer than average conventional bus in Virginia. What size buses is Bedford County ordering these days?

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LBDboater
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Posted - 11/21/2007 :  9:24:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BusFreak

I actually saw one of Bedford's C2s in at Powhatan HS last winter, and it looked to be fairly new. It had the new forward mirror on the service side. That C2 looked to be a longer than average conventional bus in Virginia. What size buses is Bedford County ordering these days?



66 passenger buses for the most part. I know that all of our buses from 1986 through 2004 have the warning light hoods. Then we started getting C2's for 3 years which didn't have the hoods, and then all the buses in the area (Bedford County and Lynchburg City) have the warning hoods. For PBfreak30, I noticed that Lynchburg's new C2's for the year have that small window in the very back of the bus on each side (in the side pillars), I was surprised to see them spec that and not us. We usually trump Lynchburg when it comes to specs. Looks like things might be changing for the county. I also know that they're about to place a huge order for next year's C2's since they've vowed to have all the Vista's off all routes by next year. Should be interesting to see if they pull through with all the expenses this year (MRSA cleaning at the high schools, bad economy, etc.)
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722
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Posted - 11/22/2007 :  7:45:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Several districts are now purshasing 77-passenger conventionals, therefore purchasing less or no transits. The fixed window at the rear is standard, but from hear say, I understand you can order a sliding window in it's place for an additional charge.
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BusFreak
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Posted - 11/23/2007 :  11:44:40 PM  Show Profile  Send BusFreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
722,

I must know...what is your job title around Virginia? You are certainly a wealth of knowledge when it comes to the student transportation industry across the state! Are you a driver for FCPS? or perhaps Arlington County? I'd love to know about your connections with Sonny Merryman, and the other Virginia dealerships.

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2006bbvision
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Posted - 11/28/2007 :  08:50:34 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f8/HCS_bus49.JPG
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2006bbvision
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Posted - 11/28/2007 :  08:52:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
click on this link, Really nice 2008 ce owned by Hampton City Schools http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f8/HCS_bus49.JPG
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BusFreak
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Posted - 11/28/2007 :  5:39:40 PM  Show Profile  Send BusFreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Strobing warning lights and LEDs everywhere! Nice job Hampton! They have always had among the nicest buses in the Hampton Roads area. Are they still shipping high school kids home on HRT buses? Back in the day, i remember seeing PenTran buses with warning arms coming (like the stop sign on a school bus) all lined up in front of bethel high school. Ironic, seeing as they have such a nice fleet.

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2006bbvision
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Posted - 11/29/2007 :  12:03:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BUSFREAK. YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!!!! Hampton has always spec there buses really nice, and they don't generally run the buses for the anticipated state service time, Every since the earlier 90's they have had Air door, Tinted windows, strobing stop arms as standard spec for there bus orders. I to remember seeing the old MCI Pen Tran buses with the stop signs on the side, Since then Pen Tran merge with HRT. DO you know what the state bus age is these days?
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2006bbvision
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Posted - 11/29/2007 :  12:10:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is still kind of weird seeing VA buses having Double stop signs on them!!!! it looks really good though!
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bsaund09
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Posted - 11/29/2007 :  4:17:37 PM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Yes , Hampton City Schools still use metro Hampton Roads Tranist to be exact for all secondary school transportation to and from home. Well the Bluebird Vision is on round 2 back at the dealership it came back and the first run of the next day the lights started flashing on and off again. This time however I was able to talk with the folks myself at Tidewater Truck and hopefully they have a better understanding of what is happening.

keep those buses rolling
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/schoolbushistory
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pbfreak30
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Posted - 11/29/2007 :  7:47:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
LBD- Amherst has the small window in back too, and one other thing that i have noticed is that some Lynchburg FS-65's have Strobing stop signs... and it would have to be a HUGE order to get all those Vistas off, because we have a ton of them still running at JF at least...and do you know which engine our C2's have this year? because i heard the previous ones had the CAT in them, but it wasnt available for the 08 model C@, and from what i hear, the C2's this year have alot more power than previous years.

ARROW transportation RP..the best out there!
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 12/05/2007 :  3:41:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some VA Buses:

http://flickr.com/photos/hallmantribe/2089077112/
http://flickr.com/photos/7372257@N05/2086673868/
http://flickr.com/photos/7372257@N05/2085887991/
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BusFreak
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Posted - 12/05/2007 :  8:14:43 PM  Show Profile  Send BusFreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Those last two are most definitely Virginia Beach buses. 192 was possibly the most well kept 1990 Thomas Ford I'd ever seen in the school system. The blue bird ford was an 91. Both had nearly identical specs, with the ford diesel engine, automatic transmission, and air brakes. What a neat find!

I almost want to say that the MVP ER in the first picture belongs to Alexandria City, but I don't know for a fact. The reason for my guess is that it's obviously not a Fairfax Thomas ER because of the placement of the drivers side e-door, and the lack of brush guards on the roof hatches. It doesn't belong to Arlington because of the storage compartments. It could be a Loudoun county bus, but I don't know their numbers off the top of my head. Bus 98 is low enough for me to automatically assume that it is an Alexandra city bus.

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Edited by - BusFreak on 12/08/2007 12:26:30 PM
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