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bsaund09
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Posted - 10/20/2007 :  08:41:03 AM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Does anyone know if the rear stop arm has been legally approved on Va owned school buses I thought I heard where they did. Does anyone know about the new speed allowance on interstate travel now for Va own school buses?

keep those buses rolling
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disneynuts
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Posted - 10/20/2007 :  08:49:32 AM  Show Profile  Visit disneynuts's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Buses may travel up to 60 MPH on roads that the speed limit is 60 MPH or above.

The rear stop sign is an option.
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IC RE 1629
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United States
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Posted - 10/20/2007 :  11:06:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
IC-RE and I went to Loudoun's main lot in Leesburg and got many great photos! We weren't able to get many interior photos this time. Lots of C2's and CE's in the Loudoun fleet now. Also got pics of two BE's (626 and 678).

Also, anyone want to respond to this?

quote:
Originally posted by IC RE 1629

I'm trying to piece together a fleet history for Loudoun County, much like I did for Fairfax County. Could anyone help? Here is what I have so far:

1995 Thomas International
1996 Thomas International
1997 Thomas Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
1997 Thomas Minotour
1998 Thomas International
1998 AmTran RE
1998 Blue Bird TC/2000 RE
2000 AmTran RE
2000 Thomas Minotour
2001 Thomas Minotour
2001 Thomas Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
2001 AmTran RE
2002 IC RE
2002 Thomas Saf-T-Liner HDX
2002 Mid Bus Guide
2003 IC RE
2003 Thomas Minotour
2003 Thomas Saf-T-Liner HDX
2004 IC RE
2004 Thomas Minotour
2004 Thomas Saf-T-Liner HDX
2005 IC RE
2005 Thomas Minotour
2006 Thomas Saf-T-Liner C2
2006 Thomas Saf-T-Liner HDX
2008 IC CE



Edited by - IC RE 1629 on 10/20/2007 12:35:58 PM
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Bus 801
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Posted - 10/20/2007 :  2:30:34 PM  Show Profile  Send Bus 801 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Their oldest buses are 1995's!?

Rob
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Edited by - Bus 801 on 10/20/2007 2:31:03 PM
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 10/20/2007 :  3:31:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1995 is as far back as I know there bus history. I'm trying trace there bus history as far back as possible. I'm not sure what the oldest buses are they have in service today. I'll ask and get back to you.
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IC-RE
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Posted - 10/20/2007 :  4:24:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
They definitley didnt have any Thomas MVPs that were older than 1996 because all of them has single headlights not double like the pre 96 MVPs

bus 1980, a 2008 IC RE 300 for Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax, Virginia.
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 10/20/2007 :  5:17:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I should add 1994 AmTran Ford's to the list. Looking back at some of my old photo logs, I remember taking a photo of atleast one 1994 AmTran Ford they had. Those have since been retired.
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Bus 801
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Posted - 10/20/2007 :  6:25:17 PM  Show Profile  Send Bus 801 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Does anyone have any old pictures of Loudon county buses, 80s conventionals.

Rob
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 10/20/2007 :  6:39:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They have a bunch of photos at their central office. I'll have to take pictures of them sometime. I looked for the photos today, but couldn't find them. They must be away in storage right now. Loudoun just built a brand new state of the art dispatch center and did some other renovations at the central office.

The new dispatch center is sweet! I wanted to take a closer look at all the fancy gear they had, but didn't get the chance. They have tons of computers and radio equipment there! It makes even the most advanced 911 center look like junk! Our dispatch centers are very bottom of the line compared to what Loudoun has. They also have atleast two dispatchers on duty at all times. Weekends, nights, holidays, 24/7/365!
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Bus 801
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Posted - 10/20/2007 :  6:48:16 PM  Show Profile  Send Bus 801 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
what were the types, BB Chevys, Ford Thomas's?

Rob
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 10/20/2007 :  6:50:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't recall. It's been two years since I last saw those photos. I'm going to ask my Loudoun buddy if he knows anything about Loudoun's history and if I can some images to post. I'll also ask my aunt who works at a Loudoun school if she can look thru some old yearbooks to find old photos of buses. Be patient, this could take a few weeks.
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Drew19
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Posted - 10/21/2007 :  07:43:27 AM  Show Profile  Send Drew19 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IC RE 1629

I don't recall. It's been two years since I last saw those photos. I'm going to ask my Loudoun buddy if he knows anything about Loudoun's history and if I can some images to post. I'll also ask my aunt who works at a Loudoun school if she can look thru some old yearbooks to find old photos of buses. Be patient, this could take a few weeks.



Loudoun also has some Thomas HD's think they were 00 or 01. And they did not have ac, some of them do have ac.
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 10/25/2007 :  06:37:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did anyone hear about the accident in Fauquier today? Bus 38 got into an accident involving another vehicle. 15 students and the bus driver transported with minor injuries.
http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/1007/466852.html

Edited by - IC RE 1629 on 10/25/2007 06:53:10 AM
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 11/03/2007 :  07:32:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1793870997&size=o

Two Arlington County buses blocking the highway. This photo was taken during the last Marine Corp race.

How many buses does Arlington County have?

Edited by - IC RE 1629 on 11/03/2007 09:39:07 AM
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IC-RE
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Posted - 11/03/2007 :  09:59:59 AM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
thats a cool shot!

bus 1980, a 2008 IC RE 300 for Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax, Virginia.
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Lena
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Posted - 11/05/2007 :  10:05:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
that is a cool shot...but doesn't it look like the one bus touched (or came mighty close) to the barrier?

Most smiles are started by another smile...
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 11/05/2007 :  11:23:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think it is touching the barrier...
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IC
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Posted - 11/05/2007 :  4:19:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IC RE 1629

I think it is touching the barrier...



Why, oh why, can't we have air horns like Arlington? :(

Oh wait, I know why....they're afraid we'd blastin' 'em! LOL
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 11/05/2007 :  6:16:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Like I've said time and time again, we need air horns!!
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BusFreak
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Posted - 11/05/2007 :  8:34:41 PM  Show Profile  Send BusFreak an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I don't know if their Thomas buses have air horns...it might be a uniquly IC-Arlington thing. The new Thomas buses they have dont have the air horns mounted up top like that, if they even have them at all

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bsaund09
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Posted - 11/06/2007 :  08:25:48 AM  Show Profile  Send bsaund09 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Air horns now that would be a cool distraction to red light runners and other things.

keep those buses rolling
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Bus 801
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Posted - 11/07/2007 :  4:07:13 PM  Show Profile  Send Bus 801 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I was looking through the VA bus auctions on Public Surplus and noticed bus 208 from Newport News has STOP STATE LAW on the back. I didn't think that was aloud in VA. BTW, Harrisonburg is giving away some 97-99 ERs already!

Rob
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722
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Posted - 11/07/2007 :  4:23:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The lettering STOP STATE LAW was on the rear of all school buses in Virginia until 1975. Starting in 1976 the state wanted to limit the amount of lettering on the rear of the buses and have everything standardized.

In the proposed specifications for next year the wording "STOP WHEN RED LIGHT FLASH" is a possible option pending approved by the state.

Some districts did a pilot using STOP STATE LAW and recieved permission to decal thier buses with this lettering again. It is not found in Northern Virginia, but it can be found in a few coastal areas of the state.
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2006bbvision
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Posted - 11/08/2007 :  10:35:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes Newport News pretty much retrofitted the entire fleet with that decals starting 2002 I think, But none of are new 2007 IC activity buses and regular ed buses have it on them. I know also Hampton City Schools has placed the decals on some of there buses, but am not sure if them continue to do so. By the way does any other district other then NPN place the abbreviations of the district and the unit number on the top of the roof in VA?

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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 11/08/2007 :  2:58:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In Fairfax and Loudoun the unit # is on the roof in 12" black characters. The school district abbreviation is NOT on the roof.
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vabuslover
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Posted - 11/08/2007 :  6:04:28 PM  Show Profile  Click to see vabuslover's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
What is the advantage of having the body number on the roof of the bus? I know it can help if the bus is flipped on its side, but are there any other reasons for having it?
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busgeek++
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Posted - 11/08/2007 :  6:09:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So you can ID buses in Google Earth :)

Buses are not a way of life, they are life
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IC
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Posted - 11/08/2007 :  8:08:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by busgeek++

So you can ID buses in Google Earth :)




Or from Fairfax One....the police helicopter.

http://www.photogs-wings.com/images/Police%20Helicopters/Fax-Helo-11-30-take0ff-Landing-01-c.jpg


http://www.photogs-wings.com/images/Police%20Helicopters/Fax-Helo-11-04-take0ff-Landing-03-c.jpg

Note: the chopper's "home" is in the same complex as a major bus garage!

Edited by - IC on 11/08/2007 8:22:21 PM
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 11/09/2007 :  02:59:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Having the number on the roof could help Police locate a certain bus in an emergency where the driver is unable to communicate their location. Such a situation may be a hijacking. Hoping that never happens of course!
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2006bbvision
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Posted - 11/09/2007 :  11:04:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
where is FairFax's major bus lot located at? I have never seen it.
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 11/09/2007 :  11:19:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Our buses are parked at many locations. There is no "main" lot. Buses are parked a garages, schools, commuter lots, designated lots, etc. We have over 1,600 buses, so they are parked everywhere.

This question was more suited for the Fairfax County thread.
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IC-RE
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Posted - 11/09/2007 :  3:55:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The largest parking ompund would be Newington Garage, that is where all of the new buses arrive and are prepped before entering service

bus 1980, a 2008 IC RE 300 for Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax, Virginia.
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 11/11/2007 :  06:54:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chesterfield County C2:
http://flickr.com/photos/hokiemimi3/1858549101/
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IC-RE
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Posted - 11/11/2007 :  09:36:20 AM  Show Profile  Visit IC-RE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I wonder why Sonny Merryman puts the bus numbers on the passenger side? I noticed that on Loudoun's C2s as well

bus 1980, a 2008 IC RE 300 for Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax, Virginia.
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IC RE 1629
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Posted - 11/11/2007 :  10:00:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Spotsylvania's C2's are the same way.
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